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Mansta54;1209316 said:
Dude they don't have to agree, it's FACT.... I live here in Maryland and follow them closely. They spent alot of loot on players who aren't producing and coaches too. They trade away draft picks like candy. Now they have no draft picks to build their team and they're already just a million bucks under next years projected cap. They are a clown act, straight "Ringling Bros."

How can someones opinion suddenly change to a fact? Just because you and some others think they are overpaid doesn't mean it is a fact.

even if they are overpaid, what does it matter, its only Dan Snyders money. What does his to overspending on coaches have anything to do with the team?
 

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Sorry, I don't know enough about your rivarlry.

I still think the Bears are going to be the biggest challenge for you. Yep, pretty sure of that.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1209247 said:
and your point?

the whole team is underachieving, hard to sinle out one particular player

you gave up a 1st, 3rd and 4th round pick for this guy though
 

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jrumann59;1209339 said:
Joe Gibbs handed over play calling to Saunders and in turn their power style offense that got them to the playoffs last year turned into a finesses offense which they do not have the right personnel for. They have a dominate running back but he doesn't catch a lot of passes like the saunders offense calls for and they do not have a true #1 receiver, Moss is not a #1 I do not care what any expert says. Small WR while nice do not last long in this league once they lose their speed look at D. Howard, Ernest Givens, K. Williams. In a couple of years Moss will be nothing more than Az Hakim a glorified PR that is a #4 WR actually that could be said about the Commanders top 3 WR.

I agree with some of what your saying. I do believe that we need to go back to our style of football from last year. If you look at yesterdays game, we did that, running the ball VERY successfully for the first quater. Our team looked like a playoff team for the first quarter yesterday. Yet, after that, we decided to shy away from the run. The turning point of that game was on our 3rd drive where we went incomplete pass, failed trick play, incomplete pass. We started the ball on the 50 yard line that drive, and a touchdown could have put Atlanta out. Instead of going back to what we did well in running, we somehow decided to pass.

As for moss, what the hell are you talking about? an undersized reciever can't be a #1 reciever? Yeah, tell that to Steve Smith:rolleyes: . Just because once they get older they wont be as good doesnt mean they cant be a number one reciever now. This might be the stupidest I have ever heard on here.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1209340 said:
How can someones opinion suddenly change to a fact? Just because you and some others think they are overpaid doesn't mean it is a fact.

even if they are overpaid, what does it matter, its only Dan Snyders money. What does his to overspending on coaches have anything to do with the team?

Well their production sort of makes it fact. I mean if a couple of those guys were in the top 15 in their position then it would be conjecture but for the most part all of their signings in the last year or so have been sexy ones its like landing Britney when you could have a good relationship with Jennifer Aniston.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1209340 said:
even if they are overpaid, what does it matter

what does it matter? you're talking about overpaying players? how about no depth and only a 1 position group that can be considered strong, RB, because most of your cap is tied up in overachieving players, and the very few solid players you have
 

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There's Vinnie Cerrato for you...nice scouting and talent evaluation.
Didn't he draft Jim Druckenmiller for SF back in 96?
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1209354 said:
we gave up a first rounder for Lloyd? since when?

how come you didn't have a 1st in this draft? I thought that was for Lloyd?
 

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summerisfunner;1209359 said:
what does it matter? you're talking about overpaying players? how about no depth and only a 1 position group that can be considered strong, RB, because most of your cap is tied up in overachieving players, and the very few solid players you have

i wasnt talking about players, yet our coaches.

yet, once again, way to come into a conversation and try to change it into your favor :rolleyes:
 

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summerisfunner;1209361 said:
how come you didn't have a 1st in this draft? I thought that was for Lloyd?

When for last year? that was because of the Jason Campbell deal
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1209352 said:
I agree with some of what your saying. I do believe that we need to go back to our style of football from last year. If you look at yesterdays game, we did that, running the ball VERY successfully for the first quater. Our team looked like a playoff team for the first quarter yesterday. Yet, after that, we decided to shy away from the run. The turning point of that game was on our 3rd drive where we went incomplete pass, failed trick play, incomplete pass. We started the ball on the 50 yard line that drive, and a touchdown could have put Atlanta out. Instead of going back to what we did well in running, we somehow decided to pass.

As for moss, what the hell are you talking about? an undersized reciever can't be a #1 reciever? Yeah, tell that to Steve Smith:rolleyes: . Just because once they get older they wont be as good doesnt mean they cant be a number one reciever now. This might be the stupidest I have ever heard on here.

I said Moss wasn't a #1 as for smith while he is good he will be nothing a few a years. If he is as good as he thinks he is he wouldn't have been whining about the fact he needs a complimentary receiver to take heat off of him, he hasn't been the same since Muhammed and he has said so. Also small, fast receivers only have one place to go after a short period KR/PR. Taller WR can become possession receivers thus still having the ability to affect a game with many more touches. I am sorry but the NFL will always want the bigger dynamic WR, whereas the smaller ones will have a nice niche as a flash in the pan and as good PR/KR
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1209365 said:
i wasnt talking about players, yet our coaches.

yet, once again, way to come into a conversation and try to change it into your favor :rolleyes:

hey Norman, that's why I asked if you were talking about the players!
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1209368 said:
When for last year? that was because of the Jason Campbell deal

ah

you still screwed up on the Lloyd deal, and that kind of underachieving deserves to get singled out
 

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DefendeR;1209360 said:
There's Vinnie Cerrato for you...nice scouting and talent evaluation.
Didn't he draft Jim Druckenmiller for SF back in 96?


I thought it was Jim "Drunken"miller :D
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1209340 said:
How can someones opinion suddenly change to a fact? Just because you and some others think they are overpaid doesn't mean it is a fact.

even if they are overpaid, what does it matter, its only Dan Snyders money. What does his to overspending on coaches have anything to do with the team?


YES OR NO.......


The Commanders are hands-down the worst run organization in all of pro sports?

Are you embarrassed that the whole nations views your organization as a joke?

Do you think the Commanders just got a bad rap for wildly overpaying for minimal talent (or is there *GASP* some truth to it)?

Would Joe Gibbs be able to pick out talent if he wasn't so outdated and irrelevant?

Is it wrong to kick a dog when it's down?

Even with how much of a disaster this season has been for the Commanders, do you think that most Extremeskins posters will yet again predict a superbowl appearance in the offseason?


thanks in advance for answering any or all of these questions.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1209365 said:
i wasnt talking about players, yet our coaches.

yet, once again, way to come into a conversation and try to change it into your favor :rolleyes:

You are in a forum where anybody can enter anybodys conversation. Her points were valid. Bottomline, your team overpays in loot and draft picks and have absolutely nothing to show for it at 4-8 and DEAD LAST...PERIOD!!!
 

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summerisfunner;1209372 said:
ah

you still screwed up on the Lloyd deal, and that kind of underachieving deserves to get singled out

no arguing here.

A thrid rounder for someone who produces 250 yards recieving is horrible.
But then again, we did trade a 3rd and 4th roudner for someone who only has 99 yards rushing :rolleyes:
 
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