For those that question BP's drafting

lspain1 said:
Burnett is showing signs of life so far and he was a second rounder.
I had just about written Burnett off after last year. But he is looking like if he stays healthy he might be a real solid player. Solid backup and possible starter down the road so I'll holster my guns on him; unless he finds another injury.
 
burmafrd said:
Consider this: Witten is a 3rd rd pick that already is a multiple Pro Bowler and one of the top 5 TE's in the game.
Canty is a 4th rd pick that is a starter and despite the lack of respect 3-4 DE's get looks to be a fixture for years.
Watkins is a 5th rd pick and looks like a steal.
Petitti is a 6th rd pick and how many of them start at a critical spot like RT?
And while the jury is still out McQuistan is a 7th rd pick that looks like a keeper.
Yes we busted on Rogers and looks like we may be disapointed in Peterman.
But just how many teams get starters later than the 4th rd? How many get gems like Watkins in the 5th? Every First RD pick we have gotten under BP is starting right now.
Actually the only place that we seem to have problems is the 2nd rd. Except for JJ and what looks like a good pick in Fasano the 2nd seems to be a bit of a problem.

I dont know. Way to early to judge the drafts under Parcells a success.

The only sure things so far are Newman, Witten, and Ware.

Not to say James, Petitti, Canty, Spears, Burnett, Carpenter, Fasano, Watkins, J Jones, and etc wont prove to be the next generation of great Cowboy players.

For now I would not count those chickens until they hatch. Interestingly it could be that the lackluster or flat out bust of Peterman, Rogers, and A Johnson, that really hold the Cowboys back this year. Not saying that the Cowboys will not have a good year this year, but obviously the Cowboys biggest question marks are on the OL. Good drafting there would have been nice.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
How about giving the true credit? Ireland. The two drafts Ireland has supervised has been superb in my opinion. The one Rogers/Peterman draft that Bill supervised wasn't so hot in my opinion.

Enough said!:bow:
 
The draft is such a crapshoot. No one is a perfect drafter...even Ozzie Newsome misses.

But the key is hitting more than missing.

Between 1994 and 2003 we missed a heckuva lot more than we hit. That was the reason we fell so hard and that's a HUGE part of the reason it's taking us so long to get back.

I think Parcells is hitting nicely....especially last year's draft.
 
Bizwah said:
The draft is such a crapshoot. No one is a perfect drafter...even Ozzie Newsome misses.

But the key is hitting more than missing.

Between 1994 and 2003 we missed a heckuva lot more than we hit. That was the reason we fell so hard and that's a HUGE part of the reason it's taking us so long to get back.

I think Parcells is hitting nicely....especially last year's draft.
I think Jeff Ireland is hitting nicely...sure Parcells has a say but he was wiffing on picks before Ireland got here. Putting Ireland in that position may be the best move Jerry has made since he hired Jimmy Johnson in 1989.
 
Smashmouth24 said:
Petiti played like a 6th round pick starting at right tackle.
Yes but he did it for 16 games and could very well do it again this year.
 
MichaelWinicki said:
How about giving the true credit? Ireland. The two drafts Ireland has supervised has been superb in my opinion. The one Rogers/Peterman draft that Bill supervised wasn't so hot in my opinion.

Why would you credit the scouting director in the last 2, but the coach in the one before? Shouldnt you credit the scouting director then too?

Parcells still runs the draft and picks the players Ireland doesnt. He just scouts better than lacewell
 
Rack said:
Funny, you could change this:




to this:





And well, you know where I'm going with this.

Funny how BP is perfect EXCEPT when it comes to Julius Jones. BP has almost completely ruined Julius Jones.


:rolleyes: X 50.

By what possible measuring stick has BP almost completely ruined Julius Jones?
 
Idgit said:
By what possible measuring stick has BP almost completely ruined Julius Jones?


I didn't say he has.

But if you've ever read a Julius Jones thread then there was a 99.9% chance that burmfrd posted in that thread. And there's a 99.99999999% chance he blamed Parcells, in one way or another, for Julius Jones' struggles.
 
Rack said:
I didn't say he has.

But if you've ever read a Julius Jones thread then there was a 99.9% chance that burmfrd posted in that thread. And there's a 99.99999999% chance he blamed Parcells, in one way or another, for Julius Jones' struggles.

Oh. Whoosh.
I knew there was a good reason I had burmfrd on ignore.
 
Idgit said:
Oh. Whoosh.
I knew there was a good reason I had burmfrd on ignore.


He's on my ignore list too. I just know what he's posting w/o even reading it.


*smack smack* Julius Jones is great. Marion Barber is average at best. * smack smack*


I'll let your own imagination determine what I meant by "smack smack".
 
Rack said:
He's on my ignore list too. I just know what he's posting w/o even reading it.


*smack smack* Julius Jones is great. Marion Barber is average at best. * smack smack*


I'll let your own imagination determine what I meant by "smack smack".

uh, fap fap squirt?
 
Gee, rack, you figured it out. JJ does have the talent to be great and MB doesn't- which is what everyone except MB homers agree on. The problem with JJ is two fold: BAD luck on injuries and a head coach that messed with his head. BP did not quite get it right in figuring out how to handle JJ; and the two hand crap and 'NO NEGATIVE PLAYS" crap messed with his mind. I hope that BP has decided to step back and let JJ be JJ. The carolina game gives me hope. I am so glad that I don't have to deal with rack much; it was almost as much a chore as dealing with kartr. Just as dumb.
 
Did not want to disapoint the poor kid. BUT I was not the one that brought up JJ here in this thread. I admit I have a real bias for JJ- no problem admitting that. Problem with rack and others is that they will never admit a bias for or against anyone. I hated TO but once he was a Boy I decided to give him a chance. Its only fair and lets face it- TO only did what he was allowed to get away with. I think that the boys will not make the same mistake the 49rs and birds did.
As far as this thread- it would be nice if rack and others actually did try and become part of it instead of bringing in other items. But then some people have no discipline.
 
I give alot of the credit to Jeff Ireland and I believe BP would also
 
MichaelWinicki said:
How about giving the true credit? Ireland. The two drafts Ireland has supervised has been superb in my opinion. The one Rogers/Peterman draft that Bill supervised wasn't so hot in my opinion.

And if Bill wasn't here I firmly believe Lacewell would still be running drafts (poorly). ;)

Seriously, mad props to Ireland, he's been money so far.
 
It is sad that it took so long for us to get rid of Lacewell despite all the lousy drafts.
 

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