Forty-nine percent of US companies are having a hard time filling skilled positions

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Kangaroo;4579180 said:
Hey I told my Boss's Boss he is next on the list already started stalking their cat I think it may be dinner tonight. Then maybe mix in some bath salts and face meat later. :D

lmao at "face meat"

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a_minimalist;4578468 said:
Exactly! I wish I saw this before I posted something. I'm 27 and have a reasonable amount of experience in my field and I've struggled finding a job. I went to the best school in America for what I did and wanted to do and had more experience than anyone else in the school, yet when it was time to find a job it took forever. I'm unemployed right now and looking but all of the positions that I would be hired for, and worked one before I went to school for a year and a half, want 3 years experience. It is something much deeper than just unskilled workers.
Essentially, internships, which pay nothing, are the new entry level jobs. So for people who can't afford to spend summers working for free, and therefore can't intern, there's a real difficulty when you're competing for "entry level" jobs against people who have done the job already at the internship.
 

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Future;4579564 said:
Essentially, internships, which pay nothing, are the new entry level jobs. So for people who can't afford to spend summers working for free, and therefore can't intern, there's a real difficulty when you're competing for "entry level" jobs against people who have done the job already at the internship.

Yup, and it's not just summers. It's Fall, Spring, and Winter too. It's whenever they need help and don't want to pay someone.
 

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a_minimalist;4579614 said:
Yup, and it's not just summers. It's Fall, Spring, and Winter too. It's whenever they need help and don't want to pay someone.

My son just got an Associates Degree in Science in Graphic Arts and Web Design here in Utah. After graduation (which he did not go to because, dad, why pay $150.00 or so on a silly cap and gown?)...he was out of work for about a two months, but he did do some odds and ends as a shoe salesman at a local mall, then he applied for a telemarketing job and was there for two nights for training.

The next day he got called in for an interview at a company called Network Marketing Services. He got the job and is now designing those mail fliers that we all get in the mail about new and used cars, and also designs web graphics for web pages for car dealerships all around the local area. He does not code the web page, they have a coder for that, but he does the graphics that are used in the web pages. He's now making $16.00 an hour and he is 22 years old.

Now, the damn kid better start paying me back some money! :mad:

But, his Education might start paying off. But, at least he's not selling shoes, or telemarketing at night.

I wish all kids would get some sort of education, because no matter what many say, the sheep skin will pay off.

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Sam I Am;4577898 said:
I can believe it. As I noted in a different thread. We are having a hard time filling a Java developer position. They are right too, most just aren't qualified and some of them ask for salaries their skills couldn't justify.

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Forty-nine percent of U.S. companies are having a hard time filling what workforce.

Forty-nine percent of US companies are having a hard time filling what workforce management firm ManpowerGroup calls mission-critical positions within their organizations with IT staff, engineers and "skilled trades" among the toughest spots to fill.

The group surveyed some 1,300 employers and noted that US companies are struggling to find talent, despite continued high unemployment, over their global counterparts, where 34% of employers worldwide are having difficulty filling positions.

According to ManpowerGroup, the most common reasons employers say they are having trouble filling jobs, including lack of available applicants, applicants looking for more pay and lack of experience

Complete Story

Yep - its true. BTW - I work for one of the Manpower companies and we talk about the talent shortage all the time.
 

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Doomsday101;4577924 said:
The #1 on the list was skilled jobs in other words automotive technician, carpenter, electrician, HVAC, aviation mechanic, plumber, pipefitter and welder.

Seems some are more interested in getting degrees in things like sociology and be unemployed and in debt up to the eye balls instead of taking on trades that are very important to any nation.
But they can camp out with the Occupy Wall Street crew! In fact, if you'll notice, those "educated" that participate in that almost always have fluff degrees....then blame it on everyone else for not finding a job.
 

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DFWJC;4580028 said:
But they can camp out with the Occupy Wall Street crew! In fact, if you'll notice, those "educated" that participate in that almost always have fluff degrees....then blame it on everyone else for not finding a job.

The issue is they do not want to pay the dues and are expecting to make 50-60k because they have a degree.

I came out of college with a Political Science Degree and a minor in Biology. The problem with the Political field (working for a City manager or a staff etc) you have to volunteer for free in the summers for people running for office and make the contacts. While I payed for my own school, so between Army Reserves, working a real job and school I did not have time to work for free and still be able to get a degree. I even looked inti the Hospitality industry because i worked 4 years in the Hotel business in college (mainly Night Auditor)

I got out and I was getting interviews making the 2nd and 3rd cut in interview process. I had a couple offers for Night Auditors position at Hotels but no career path to move up so I turned that down. I finally got a call from Man Power for another position I had applied for they had filled it up but they wanted me to come in and I started at a company the next day making $11 hour doing finance work they where an out source IT company; after a while I did everything I could at that company I did billing, expense report, booked travel, started imaging Work stations when they needed a warm body and learned from there I applied my self and became an asset.
 

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DFWJC;4580028 said:
But they can camp out with the Occupy Wall Street crew! In fact, if you'll notice, those "educated" that participate in that almost always have fluff degrees....then blame it on everyone else for not finding a job.

I saw an interview with one of them and he said well I can't find a job. The interviewer asked what kind of job his response one paying close to 100 thousand a year. Mind you this is a kid in his mid 20's and has no intent on working his way up as the rest of us do. If he can't get his dream job then he will spoung off mom and dad or the rest of us until he finds one or grows up. Not counting on the latter to happen.

I can promise him one thing you will not find a job sitting outside protesting.
Lastly I have to say they are down on the big bad business while texting on the Iphones. :lmao:
 

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Kangaroo;4580344 said:
The issue is they do not want to pay the dues and are expecting to make 50-60k because they have a degree.

I came out of college with a Political Science Degree and a minor in Biology. The problem with the Political field (working for a City manager or a staff etc) you have to volunteer for free in the summers for people running for office and make the contacts. While I payed for my own school, so between Army Reserves, working a real job and school I did not have time to work for free and still be able to get a degree. I even looked inti the Hospitality industry because i worked 4 years in the Hotel business in college (mainly Night Auditor)

I got out and I was getting interviews making the 2nd and 3rd cut in interview process. I had a couple offers for Night Auditors position at Hotels but no career path to move up so I turned that down. I finally got a call from Man Power for another position I had applied for they had filled it up but they wanted me to come in and I started at a company the next day making $11 hour doing finance work they where an out source IT company; after a while I did everything I could at that company I did billing, expense report, booked travel, started imaging Work stations when they needed a warm body and learned from there I applied my self and became an asset.

You got it, they want it now not have to work their way up the ranks. Talk about some spoiled little brats
 

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Doomsday101;4580377 said:
You got it, they want it now not have to work their way up the ranks. Talk about some spoiled little brats

Unfortunately the Occupy Wall Street movement morphed from legitimate concerns with how big investment banks were gaming the system to what we see today with people demanding jobs/money/debt forgiveness.

Banks like GS and JPM did awful, awful things that should have resulted in criminal charges (look up what JPM did to Jefferson County, AL for just one example), but because the SEC is both ineffectual and populated with lawyers that previously worked for large investment banks as well as Wall Street lobbying money flowing like an avalanche into the the campaign funds of every politician left or right, no one from these banks get charged or prosecuted.

Also, Occupy Wall Street was originally pushing for better reform than the lame Dodd-Frank bill that by the time it was passed did little to regulate the derivatives market or curb Too Big To Fail practices.
 

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EGTuna;4580402 said:
Also, Occupy Wall Street was originally pushing for better reform than the lame Dodd-Frank bill that by the time it was passed did little to regulate the derivatives market or curb Too Big To Fail practices.

Not completely true. Dodd-Frank directly effects my company and our customers. (my company in a good way) It will add a lot more transparency to the derivatives market and a lot of banks that were trading with government ensured monies won't be able to do that anymore.

It definitely isn't as tough as it should be, but it definitely put a stop to a lot of BS that was happening that definitely shouldn't have happened.
 

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Sam I Am;4580415 said:
Not completely true. Dodd-Frank directly effects my company and our customers. (my company in a good way) It will add a lot more transparency to the derivatives market and a lot of banks that were trading with government ensured monies won't be able to do that anymore.

It definitely isn't as tough as it should be, but it definitely put a stop to a lot of BS that was happening that definitely shouldn't have happened.

Dodd-Frank effects everyone that trades derivatives. Derivatives were originally created for risk management (your basic IR Swap), but then banks started hiring geniuses from MIT and CalTech to come up with crazy ways to use derivatives for arbitrage purposes and that's when things got nuts. Banks were naked hedging and leveraging themselves way too much. Dodd-Frank doesn't address this very well. Yes, it says some derivatives have to be centrally cleared on an exchange, but it didn't set capital terms nearly as stringent or do anything to re-instate Glass-Steagall.
 
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