Four Ravens fined for abuse of officials

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OWINGS MILLS, Md. (AP) - Bart Scott and three other players on the Baltimore Ravens were fined by the NFL on Friday for arguing with game officials and complaining about calls in Monday's game against the New England Patriots.

Scott, who argued with officials and tossed a penalty flag into the stands, was fined $25,000. Cornerbacks Chris McAlister and Samari Rolle and wide receiver Derrick Mason each were fined $15,000 for critical remarks made after the game.
"This is about the importance of sportsmanship and respecting the integrity of our game," NFL vice president of football operations Ray Anderson said. "We do not tolerate inappropriate conduct between teams and game officials. This includes reminding game officials that they are to conduct themselves at all times as professionals in their dealings with players, coaches and other club personnel."

Rolle accused head linesman Phil McKinnely of repeatedly calling him "boy." NFL vice president of officiating Mike Pereira acknowledged that Rolle and McKinnely argued during the game, but said their verbal confrontation did not occur in the context that Rolle described.

Anderson met with Scott and Rolle at the Ravens' training complex to clear the air.

"We both came to the conclusion that I made a bad decision, but he understood the emotion and took that into consideration, the emotion and the moment," Scott said Friday following his meeting with Anderson. "It's definitely something for me to learn from and grow from and be an advocate speaker for great conduct."

The Ravens lost to the Patriots 27-24. Baltimore held a 24-20 lead before New England marched downfield for the winning touchdown with 44 seconds left. The drive included several costly penalties against the Ravens and an inopportune timeout by Baltimore defensive coordinator Rex Ryan.

Pereira said several calls, including Ryan's timeout, a defensive holding penalty on Jamaine Winborne and the game-winning touchdown catch by wide receiver Jabar Gaffney were correct.

Ravens coach Brian Billick said the team has learned from the experience, and dismissed suggestions by some of his players that New England receives special treatment from game officials.

"To intimate that the Patriots are given some kind of favoritism is ridiculous," Billick said. "That's not the case. Our league works very hard to make sure the officiating is top-notch and unbiased. I was probably remiss after the game in not counseling the players better about the frustrations that I knew existed.

"Clearly, both sides needed to conduct themselves better. We all have culpability, mine included, and I should have made sure they understood they needed to curb their passions after the game in any comments they made about the officiating."
 

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And coach Shanny was fined 25k for criticizing the substance abuse policy.

NFL made some money today.
 

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Does anyone else think it's odd that an organization fines its members for criticizing it?
 

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I don't have a problem with the league fining these players. They have an avenue to address their problems with the officials.

I do however wonder what the NFL said or done with those officials if any of the players claims were true.
 

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smarta5150;1817248 said:
Others would fire you for it ;)
Not exactly. Most profit-oriented organizations welcome self-criticism. It improves the product.
 

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theogt;1817255 said:
Not really. Most profit-oriented organizations welcome self-criticism. It improves the product.

Constructive criticism is one thing accusing the refs of cheating which is pretty much what they did is another.
 

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theogt;1817255 said:
Not exactly. Most profit-oriented organizations welcome self-criticism. It improves the product.

I am pretty sure the NFL has that as well.

The problem is going about it the correct way.
 

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theogt;1817255 said:
Not exactly. Most profit-oriented organizations welcome self-criticism. It improves the product.

Somehow, I doubt your boss would welcome you self-criticizing him on national tv.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1817251 said:
I don't have a problem with the league fining these players. They have an avenue to address their problems with the officials.

I do however wonder what the NFL said or done with those officials if any of the players claims were true.

burn or destroy the evidence...just like they did with the other stuff (Jets, spygate)

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I am still waiting for Robespierre to set up Madame La Guillotine at the NFL offices and lob off some heads the next time people dare criticize his virtuous empire.
 

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Idgit;1817266 said:
Somehow, I doubt your boss would welcome you self-criticizing him on national tv.

Your welcome to try the other way where you fill out a 42 page complaint detailing all missed and inappropriate calls and send it to the league like Gibbs after every game.

That is sure to get things moving in the right direction.
 

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Hypnotoad;1817285 said:
Your welcome to try the other way where you fill out a 42 page complaint detailing all missed and inappropriate calls and send it to the league like Gibbs after every game.

That is sure to get things moving in the right direction.

The league has always been good about contacting teams after the game film is reviewed and informing teams of bad calls that took place. Granted it does not change the outcome but the league does not try and hide the fact that sometimes calls are wrong or bad. In this case they have reviewed the film and did not see any problems with the calls in this game
 

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Pereira said several calls, including Ryan's timeout, a defensive holding penalty on Jamaine Winborne and the game-winning touchdown catch by wide receiver Jabar Gaffney were correct.

:lmao2: What a sham.

Maybe Pereira can review the play of TO's non-catch during the GB game next to Gaffney's catch and explain the difference side by side on the NFL Network.
 

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theogt;1817245 said:
Does anyone else think it's odd that an organization fines its members for criticizing it?

Actually no, Alot of employers assume you work for them and to criticize the company you work for publicly does harm to that employers bottom line, and that would be unacceptable and the employer has a right to FIRE someone for that, not simply fine them pennies compared to what they are making.

They have, as most employers do, an avenue in which employees can verbalize their disagreements in private in which would benefit both parties, so no I do not have a problem with those players getting fined.
 

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Hypnotoad;1817285 said:
Your welcome to try the other way where you fill out a 42 page complaint detailing all missed and inappropriate calls and send it to the league like Gibbs after every game.

That is sure to get things moving in the right direction.

I should be more clear. *I* don't have any problem with the Ravens' beefing at the officials after that game. It's a good thing to keep pressure on the officials for the calls they make, and if the players don't mind the fines, I don't mind the complaints. It's not like that's part of the NFL's 360-degree human resource evaluation plan, though.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1817251 said:
I don't have a problem with the league fining these players. They have an avenue to address their problems with the officials.

I do however wonder what the NFL said or done with those officials if any of the players claims were true.


not a damned thing according to the spokeman the NFL put on their network.

He said two sides to every story and the it was a misunderstanding between what the official said.

I call BS on that crap no way heat of battle so many players are gonna get so upset over something that wasn't really happening?

NFL brass has been a complete joke this season
 

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Doomsday101;1817258 said:
Constructive criticism is one thing accusing the refs of cheating which is pretty much what they did is another.
Ray Anderson was on NFLN earlier and he said the biggest violation was that they did it publicly. They can challenge the calls, accuse them of cheating, etc, just don't do it in public.

Scott's fine also included his on-field actions with the official's flag.

Rolle was not fined for the exchange with the official. He was fined for his public criticism afterward.
 

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SultanOfSix;1817301 said:
:lmao2: What a sham.

Maybe Pereira can review the play of TO's non-catch during the GB game next to Gaffney's catch and explain the difference side by side on the NFL Network.

No doubt. That most certainly was not a catch.
 
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