News: Fox: Cowboys' trade for Trey Lance is opportunistic and straight out of Eagles' playbook

[Hawkeye0202]

This is a bit about Shanny's hubris. He got to the championship game with a 7th round pick and had made Sam Darnold into a viable backup. This is all about Shanny's ego after having given up 3 firsts for Lance

+1 ........shows just how much they overdraft him. They better hope Purdy is the real deal. Otherwise, they are back to square one at QB and no Sam Donaldson isn't the answer (lol)

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

This also gives us leverage if Dak wants 60 million APY in a year from now. I think some are forgetting that small detail.

Probably gave Dak more leverage then anything.

 

[America's Cowboy]

He will!! All preseason next year and maybe Saturday lol. I get what your saying but again hard to play or practice when your injured. Who knows if it works out we don't pay Dak the next big contract and he becomes our starter.

And here is the shtick. Not to pay Dak once again, so let's settle for a bust at the most important position on the team. If it happens this way, guaranteed every Dak critic will soon regret this move. Say bye-bye to 12-5 seasons, playoffs and for sure division titles.

 

[lane]

Jerry gave up a 4th for this qb?

 

[America's Cowboy]

Probably gave Dak more leverage then anything.

Yep. That's all this move did was give Dak more leverage to demand even higher pay with another no-trade clause and to hell how it financially will continue to affect the salary cap and how to keep a playoff quality team together.

 

[baltcowboy]

Straight from that article: Lance fortunately has time to get himself off this list.

I don't know why our fans have such a tendency to overreact. I don't see anyone on here calling him a great acquisition, only some saying that he has shown some ability and we'll see how it goes.

Some may be excited about what they think he can become and the fact that if that happens, then trading a fourth for him would be a value. Frankly, I would have liked to have gotten him for less or even nothing, but that didn't happen. Instead, I'll wait and see whether he's a bust or whether he gets himself off that list.

I feel better with a 23 year old talent then Will Grier. Plus if he is leverage against paying Dak a long term $50 million a season contract.

 

[gimmesix]

This also gives us leverage if Dak wants 60 million APY in a year from now. I think some are forgetting that small detail.

I don't think there's much leverage there. Lance right now is just a shot in the dark.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Yep. That's all this move did was give Dak more leverage to demand even higher pay with another no-trade clause and to hell how it financially will continue to affect the salary cap and how to keep a playoff quality team together.

Does anyone actually think we have anyone of this staff that can develop Lance into a great qb? That is asking a lot. Lance is a turnover machine and he's always hurt as well.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Haha so I exaggerated its been 3. Just feels like 5.

Philly acquired Minshew after he spent two years with Jacksonville and his compensation was less than $1 million per season the two years he was with the Eagles. They traded a sixth round draft choice for him. Dallas acquired Lance after he spent two years with San Francisco and his compensation will be $3 million AAV for the next two years with the Cowboys. They traded a fourth round draft choice for him. Look at what Minshew did in his two years with the Jaguars and compare it to what Lance did with the 49ers in his two years there. Then you’ll be able to speak to the difference between an NFL owner smart enough to hire a professional to run his team and one that isn’t smart enough to hire a professional to run his team. This trade was not out of the Eagles playbook. It is vintage Jerry Jones. Nothing more than news making nonsense.

 

[gimmesix]

Does anyone actually think we have anyone of this staff that can develop Lance into a great qb? That is asking a lot. Lance is a turnover machine and he's always hurt as well.

He threw two interceptions last year and one the year before. Again, I know it's a small sample size, but how is that a turnover machine? He's thrown three interceptions in 102 passes.

Here's also a nice analysis of his preseason performance against the Raiders that seems objective: https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/lists/instant-analysis-49ers-qb-trey-lance-stats-raiders/

 

[plymkr]

Probably gave Dak more leverage then anything.

Let's see what a change in scenery and how Lance develops. My opinion is this is a good gamble. If it's a bust, well we didn't lose much, if it's a boom then we're better off for it.

If he does develop well and show he can be a starter that does threaten Dak's leverage. If he doesn't then so be it.

I'm just happy Jerry made a real GM move here. The Packers drafted Rodgers with Favre, then drafted Love with Rodgers in place. Dallas traded for a developmental QB with physical ability with Dak on place. I like it.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Does anyone actually think we have anyone of this staff that can develop Lance into a great qb? That is asking a lot. Lance is a turnover machine and he's always hurt as well.

Exactly why I don't like the trade, especially for a 4th round pick and a definite roster spot. Should have used no more than a 6th. Even then, I feel he will not progress to what so many are hoping. Would have rather taken my chances in next year's draft.

 

[JD_KaPow]

So just to be clear you would rather have Simi Fehoko or Neville Gallimore than Lance?

I'd rather have the fourth round pick that could potentially turn into somebody like Pollard or Schultz or Ferguson.

 

[plymkr]

I don't think there's much leverage there. Lance right now is just a shot in the dark.

I like the shot in the dark for a 4th rounder. If Dak is everything some believe he is then it will not matter at all. Then we can hope for Lance to develop and maybe break even on the trade.

I feel for all the gambles we've done with players ala Jaylon Smith, Sam Williams, in the 2nd round that didn't turn out great, taking a chance with a 4th rounder for a QB is worth it. I'm happy with it, but I'll be happiest if Dak takes us to the Super Bowl then no one will effect his leverage.

 

[buybuydandavis]

This is how the QB Whisperer can earn a contract extension.

 

[America's Cowboy]

This coaching staff couldn't coach up Will Grier who has similar physical talents. What makes anyone believe they will be able to coach up Trey Lance?

 

[quickccc]

He's been trash so far. Anything is better than will Grier I guess!

- How many people thought Jalen Hurts in Philly was gonna be trash ?

- How many thought Seattle's Gino Smith was trash ?

Can never say never.

 

[gimmesix]

I like the shot in the dark for a 4th rounder. If Dak is everything some believe he is then it will not matter at all. Then we can hope for Lance to develop and maybe break even on the trade.

I feel for all the gambles we've done with players ala Jaylon Smith, Sam Williams, in the 2nd round that didn't turn out great, taking a chance with a 4th rounder for a QB is worth it. I'm happy with it, but I'll be happiest if Dak takes us to the Super Bowl then no one will effect his leverage.

I think you gamble with every pick to an extent so the misses don't bother me. Obviously, the gamble is a lot less risky at the top of the draft, but there are misses (like Lance) in every round.

Look at a draft like 2020 for us. Lamb and Diggs were great picks, and Biadasz has turned into a starter, but we clearly missed on three other picks (Robinson, Anae and Dinucci) and haven't gotten a lot out of a fourth (Gallimore). So we missed on more than half of our draft picks. That's just an example, but it's fairly typical. 2019 3 out of 8. 2018 may have been one of our better year with 6 of 9 contributing, but Williams wasn't a second-contract hit in the second round .. and 2017 made up for that success with the failure of Charlton and most of that class; only four of 9 were contributors. Even the supposed great class of 2015 really only landed us three long-term players (Elliott, Prescott and Brown). Collins wasn't a second-contract pick and Jaylon Smith didn't play up to his second contract.

I liked Parcells' attitude that essentially you win some and you lose some and finding an undrafted contributor makes up some for the losses. Obviously, we'd like the team to hit on every pick, but it just isn't reality.

 

[AbeBeta]

+1 ........shows just how much they overdraft him. They better hope Purdy is the real deal. Otherwise, they are back to square one at QB and no Sam Donaldson isn't the answer (lol)

Yeah. Over drafted but he'd still have been a 1st. Amazing arm and legs. May never develop but for a 4th, you get a guy who was battling playing in a lower level conference in college and injuries.

 

[Cowboys1966]

Love this move.