Franchise Dez is the right move

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Do you remember the crappy years before Romo? Until we have a sound QB plan post Romo, why would we spend high dollars on a WR? How is that absurdly stupid?

The whole team was terrible for those years. We have a super young OL. Young talent at WR. A hopefully improving defense. The hope is also not to have to go on a multi-year search for another QB. Your logic is just terrible. So should we not want any talent on offense or the whole team once Romo's gone because apparently it won't matter anyway? We should start looking for a QB after this season. The potential is there to have a lot of young talent on this team. Your logic just makes no sense.
 

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Not with a great OL, run game, and WR. And if we can fix the defense in that time, not even close. This is not true in the least.

Remember playing AZ in 2014? Now imaging that times 16 and with all the great assets you mentioned. Just no Romo.
 

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Remember playing AZ in 2014? Now imaging that times 16 and with all the great assets you mentioned. Just no Romo.

SOoooooooooooooo you think the franchise is just going to resign itself to having a guy of Weeden's caliber as our starting QB after Romo is gone? And again, you're ignoring that our defense is hopefully continuing to grow. Thankfully I don't think the franchise plans on just punting the X amount of years after Romo is gone. I'm honestly done responding to this nonsense.
 

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Remember playing AZ in 2014? Now imaging that times 16 and with all the great assets you mentioned. Just no Romo.

And Weeden scored more points against Washington in less minutes then Romo. See how this game can go?
 

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If you franchise tag Dez it's possibile he'll hold out until like week 10 and then come back like Vincent Jackson did his last year in San Diego.

just because the Cowboys place the Franchise tag on Dez doesn't mean he's gonna sign it. I don't like how this thing is going at all.

Won't happen because 1. JJ wants him here. 2. He won't get paid and still get franchised again next year. 3. His attitude and reaction will drive down his value. 4. Football players have limited shelf life and clock is ticking. 5. Did I said he won't get PAID?
 

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Do you remember the crappy years before Romo? Until we have a sound QB plan post Romo, why would we spend high dollars on a WR? How is that absurdly stupid?
Cap dollars will not replace Romo. His replacement will need to come from the draft.

A young QB would have a good chance to thrive if they keep the other offensive players together.

Prior to Romo the Cowboys tried to get a QB without using a 1st round pick and the rest of the offense was not very good. I think they had Rob Petitte playing RT one of those years.
 

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SOoooooooooooooo you think the franchise is just going to resign itself to having a guy of Weeden's caliber as our starting QB after Romo is gone? And again, you're ignoring that our defense is hopefully continuing to grow. Thankfully I don't think the franchise plans on just punting the X amount of years after Romo is gone. I'm honestly done responding to this nonsense.

No, just as the team did not resign itself to having inferior QB's after Aikman... and yet it happened for many years. Hopeful defense? Hope alone never won anything. You call it nonsense, I call it pragmatism.
 

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Dez's ceiling is insane,imo we are not even using him to the best of his abilities yet(the screen for a TD against the skins for example which we havent seen before which Demaryius thomas runs about 3 or 4 times a game!!) .this thread is madness.
 

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Cap dollars will not replace Romo. His replacement will need to come from the draft.

A young QB would have a good chance to thrive if they keep the other offensive players together.

Prior to Romo the Cowboys tried to get a QB without using a 1st round pick and the rest of the offense was not very good. I think they had Rob Petitte playing RT one of those years.

I just do not share the optimism that you and many others have for the post Romo years.
 

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Signing Dez to any years beyond Romo's time in Dallas is a waste of money. Tagging Dez two years is the only way I see doing smart business. Yes, it's going to suck for Cowboys fans after Romo retires but that would happen with or without Dez.

I tend to agree because we don't know who Romo replacement will be. Dallas usually has down transition time between quality starters at QB. Stephan should set all of this up as run for 2 years with salary cap flexibility available after that short time period. I think OL is here to stay for while and use that as foundation for next 5-7 years.
 

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Dez should be tagged. Its a smart move. Its a smart move for Dez if he takes it as the procedural move that it is and a sign that the Cowboys absolutely don't want him leaving town. The one major down side I see to the tag is if Dez basically decides to get butt hurt about it and basically throws a fit. Assuming he's still with Condon and is listening to him I fully expect the two sides to come to something neither side fully likes and get it done before you can't negotiate under the franchise tag any more.
 

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Romo has typically produced regardless of circumstance...often keeping the team competitive when the OL wasn't good, etc. The results as a team have been better when the 'team' as a whole has been better...eg: 2007 & 2014. Even this year, a couple of key throws & catches were essentially the difference between potentially having a couple of more losses vs. wins.

The Cowboys of 2014 were certainly more QB friendly. But how much of that will be kept intact when another QB takes over? Murray (the league's leading rusher in 2014), may well be the first to leave this offseason. Witten will likely retire around the time Romo does. And it'll be interesting to see how the OL deals work out when the time comes. A few short years down the road (2-3?), and a new QB likely isn't walking into the 2014 version of the Cowboys.

I want Dez with the Boys long-term...but hope that it can be accomplished somewhat reasonably.
 

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Why not remember the more recent evidence, like when Kitna/McGee went 5-5 in 2010 and Romo went 1-5?

A lot of QBs would have had success playing with the league's leading rusher, a top 3 WR, HOF TE, and the consensus top OL in the game.

with jason garrett as the coach?
 

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Putting the tag on Dez is the right move. After you place the tag you can still talk to him about a new long term deal and then take the tag off. The tag would just make it where no other team can talk to Dez.

Dez wants to be paid like a top 5 WR and he may deserve the title but no WR is worth that much. But let's look at the WR market. Let's wait and see what the top 5 average is in 2 months.
Cobb will get paid but it won't be 9 a year but will be up there close.
Miami is talking about releasing Mike Wallace. Zona might release Fitz and Houston sounds like they will release Johnson. The Calvin Johnson deal might get renegotiated to free up some cap space. If that happens there is 4 of the top paid WRs in the NFL now not there and now the average of the top 5 WR is way lower then it was last year.

So let's tag Dez and wait and see if the top 5 average WRs salary drops with the top guys getting released or have to take less to stay.

I keep hearing these guys aren't worth the money they are getting, but let me ask you this? Is ESPN, NBC, CBS, and Fox paying billions so that the owners can just build a few stadiums, party with the refs and hookers, pay the commissioner 44 million, pay court costs, and then pocket the rest? The players are worth whatever it is they can get the owners to give them. SuperBowl tickets alone brought the NFL over 400 million this year. I'm all for the owners being billionaires, but give the guys who make those billions their fair share.
 

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I keep hearing these guys aren't worth the money they are getting, but let me ask you this? Is ESPN, NBC, CBS, and Fox paying billions so that the owners can just build a few stadiums, party with the refs and hookers, pay the commissioner 44 million, pay court costs, and then pocket the rest? The players are worth whatever it is they can get the owners to give them. SuperBowl tickets alone brought the NFL over 400 million this year. I'm all for the owners being billionaires, but give the guys who make those billions their fair share.

I would agree if this was baseball and no salary cap. But we have to have a team under a salary cap. Paying a QB 25 million and a WR 15 makes it hard to resign other players.
 

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If you franchise tag Dez it's possibile he'll hold out until like week 10 and then come back like Vincent Jackson did his last year in San Diego.

just because the Cowboys place the Franchise tag on Dez doesn't mean he's gonna sign it. I don't like how this thing is going at all.

The franchise tag and be taken off at anytime if Dez doesn't sign it. Dallas doesn't want dez to sign It. They want to make it impossible for any other team to talk to him. Let's tag him then can sign him long term in march April may or june.
 

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The franchise tag and be taken off at anytime if Dez doesn't sign it. Dallas doesn't want dez to sign It. They want to make it impossible for any other team to talk to him. Let's tag him then can sign him long term in march April may or june.

What happens if he doesn't sign it? Is there a certain date he has to sign it by or he can't play in 2015?
 

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Does anyone have a clue what Dez is asking for? I mean if it's 12-14 million/year I think that's pretty reasonable, if he's asking 16-18 million/year then this is the right move. Either way, he's still going to be a Cowboy.
 

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I keep hearing these guys aren't worth the money they are getting, but let me ask you this? Is ESPN, NBC, CBS, and Fox paying billions so that the owners can just build a few stadiums, party with the refs and hookers, pay the commissioner 44 million, pay court costs, and then pocket the rest? The players are worth whatever it is they can get the owners to give them. SuperBowl tickets alone brought the NFL over 400 million this year. I'm all for the owners being billionaires, but give the guys who make those billions their fair share.


The "socialist" mindset does not work here. Owners own and are price givers to employees (players). Players are price takers (employees)
who decide (if they can) whether to play for a salary or not. This is how it works in the working world and the players can always opt not
to play. I'm sure there are lots of job openings at parking garages and McDonalds for them since they are so skilled. There is no slavery
in America, only "free will" agreements between Owners & Players to play a game for so much money a game. That's
what free enterprise is all about. No player is forced to sign a contract to play...they can always opt to go to Canada too!!!
 
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