Free Agency: Darren Sharper, S

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Bluestang;3305514 said:
Count me in the very, very small group that doesn't want to sign this guy. I watched alot of NO games and Sharper cannpt tackle a RB to save his life. He is horrible in run support and was one of the prime reasons that NO was terrible against the run (and why we were effective against them). He made Joseph Addai look like a superstar in the Super Bowl.

His age is of concern too but he may also not fit into this system. Just because he was successful in NO doesn't mean it will translate here. I'm ready to get rid Hamlin like everyone else but not with another aging vet.

Another reason not to sign Sharper is that he can't pass a physical right now. That's according to the Times-Picayune. Thats also New Orleans has not extended much more of an offer to him.
 

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yimyammer;3305486 said:
In all seriousness, I'm no expert but I'm not wild about signing a 34 year old safety that may prevent another player from developing or for that matter failing so the team can find the right person, especially if he impacts the cap that could return in the future. Perhaps if Dallas could get a good contract like NO got with him last year, it might make sense, but I'm sure he'll just stay in NO if he cant get the big bucks.

If I am going to wish for anything, I hope we have the talent evaluators on staff that can find and develop youth in this and all positions.

That's my biggest hangup too...He's not just over 30, he's halfway to 40.

I guess the way that I look at it, though, is that you can't get worse by switching Hamlin for Sharper, except maybe in chemistry and even then Sharper's a great guy and not some knucklehead. I think the rookies and young DBs on the roster would learn more from Sharper than Hamlin, too, but that's 100% me talking opinion not based on any real knowledge of what Ken Hamlin is trying to do to mentor younger guys.

The deal would have to be very cap friendly though. I know I said 3-years, $12M earlier, but I'm thinking somewhere more along the lines of 2 years, $7M. That would put him at 36 or 37, and he might even retire if we made a deep run this next year or won the Super Bowl, which would work out well, since we'd have a bunch of young guys ready to step up.

I dunno...just throwing an idea out there. He'd look good in Silver & Blue :)
 

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Bob Sacamano;3305511 said:
No one has a problem with people agreeing with you, Hos. Just the pack mentality that always seems to swirl around you if some don't toe the Party (Dallas Cowboy, not what me and you discussed via PM) line.
My apologies that what I say often makes sense to people Bob. I should be damned ashamed of myself for not being a total freaking moron. I should forget all that I know and feel about the game in favor of trying to be self important and accusatory. I should over react to everything instead of trying to analyze why decisions are made and I should definitely not try to make sense. Damn me, damn me completely to hell.
 

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Hostile;3305513 said:
You doubt there's an off season plan, even after the strategy they've used in the tender offers?

Is there ever a desire to simply not be a reactionary and try and learn from what is really going on?

I'm just pretty bored with this offseason

Excuse my knee jerk reactions.
 

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Hostile;3305509 said:
Yeah but man, I don't need yet another person to be accused of needing to find a hotel room with. Here is my chance to be a contrarian and have no one agree with me and you gotta screw everything up. I hope you can live with the shame that accompanies agreeing with me.

Just this one time...;) ...I don't think I'm really agreeing or disagreeing with you or anyone in this post, i have no idea what the best move is. I do wonder how so many people can be so certain in their opinions considering I doubt many, if any, have the expertise, insight or access to players to form such staunch positions
 

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Hostile;3305520 said:
My apologies that what I say often makes sense to people Bob.

It's more like you homer out and like-minded homers respond favorably. Or derisively. Depends on who you ask.
 

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SLATEmosphere;3305492 said:
Doubt it.

I honestly don't know where this franchise is headed.

We used to wheal n deal and now we are extremely frugile.

I have no clue what our strategy is.

If you're trying to nail down a specific strategy Dallas uses in free agency, you're never going to find it. Strategies shift based on what the team has and what the team did.

The reality is that Dallas does not have to make a single move this off-season to get a starter. Jones can pick and choose opportunities to upgrade knowing that he does not have to replace a Ken Hamlin or a Flozell Adams for this team to succeed.

You might think he does, and that's frustrating you, but Jones obviously doesn't think there is anyone he absolutely has to have (which I agree with). It's going to be all about seizing the right opportunities ... which requires patience.
 

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SLATEmosphere;3305522 said:
I'm just pretty bored with this offseason

Excuse my knee jerk reactions.
I have to excuse them. If I comment in any other way you fly off the handle and direct all kinds of scorn at me and anyone who dares agree with me.

Me, I prefer to study the game, and learn. But I can see why that is no fun. Look how many enemies it gets me and anyone who tries to do the same.
 

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yimyammer;3305525 said:
Just this one time...;) ...I don't think I'm really agreeing or disagreeing with you or anyone in this post, i have no idea what the best move is. I do wonder how so many people can be so certain in their opinions considering I doubt many, if any, have the expertise, insight or access to players to form such staunch positions
We all value our own opinions. Nothing wrong with that. I think a lot of them are poorly considered.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3305526 said:
It's more like you homer out and like-minded homers respond favorably. Or derisively. Depends on who you ask.
I never homer out. I agree with some things. I disagree with other things. Some people are mature enough to realize that, some aren't.
 

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Hostile;3305474 said:
I have no interest in adding Darren Sharper. I expect to be virtually alone in that opinion. It will shock and dismay some. They will think I am disbanding the clique that doesn't exist. It may force them to look only at opinions instead of personalities. It is damned cruel of me to destroy myths in such a haphazard fashion.

actually you're not alone. I dont want Sharper either. I like how he played last year but at some point the guy will slow down, and when he does it;ll happen fast imo.

He's had a good career, a damn good one but i'd much rather look at Nate Allen or Major Wright in the draft and for sure i'd be thinking long and hard about bringing in Atogwe for a look.

I'm no fan of Hamlin either and would love to see an upgrade at FS.
 

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It's awesome to think about how good this defense has gotten in the last year that everyone and their brother wants to get rid of Ken Hamlin because he is the weak link.
 

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I don't think Sharper is on the radar. He was a guy they thought they could target in the NO game. Besides he's old.
 

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SLATEmosphere;3305492 said:
Doubt it.

I honestly don't know where this franchise is headed.

We used to wheal n deal and now we are extremely frugile.

I have no clue what our strategy is.

The strategy is to be nothing like the Commanders, hence, why we are better than them right now and have been for some time. It's also why we had a team that went 11-5, won a playoff game for the first time in awhile and have the other 3 teams in this division chasing us now. We'll be a significant favorite in the NFC.

This team is stocked with good young talent, most of whom who are just entering their primes. And your questioning their "strategy"?? Just because Jones and co are smart enough to avoid bad contracts just for the sake of adding some big name players, doesnt mean there's no "strategy"
 

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dbair1967;3305768 said:
The strategy is to be nothing like the Commanders, hence, why we are better than them right now and have been for some time. It's also why we had a team that went 11-5, won a playoff game for the first time in awhile and have the other 3 teams in this division chasing us now. We'll be a significant favorite in the NFC.

This team is stocked with good young talent, most of whom who are just entering their primes. And your questioning their "strategy"?? Just because Jones and co are smart enough to avoid bad contracts just for the sake of adding some big name players, doesnt mean there's no "strategy"

I don't think anyone suggested being the Commanders.

I think Jerry has some ideas lined up but I agree with Slate a little bit, I don't know what they are or what they appear to be heading. Jerry and Co. seem to have reversed tracks on their acquisition policies.

IMO it kind of seems like the team is overestimating it's talent level.

They spent an entire draft on special teamers last season. In a draft that many considered weak, they picked a dozen guys who were viewed mostly as backups and many people expect them to use a pretty valuable pick on a KR guy this year. Not saying that I am against it, just pointing it out.

And now it kind of seems that Dallas isn't really all that interested in FA. I realize the restrictions are there but it's a little odd to see the team slow play to this extent. The safety position has a couple of guys worth looking at and Dallas just doesn't really appear to care.

Just kind of seems Dallas is a little too comfortable. I'm all for building the team the right through the draft but if you can potentially upgrade a position in FA, why not? Even though I don't care about the cost because it's not my money and I have faith that the Jones' will get a nicely structured deal, I'm not advocating breaking the bank here.

Just a little strange I guess. Jerry has always been a guy who wasn't afraid of making a move in FA, kind of odd to see the team show no interest in doing anything. I really hope they aren't overestimating the talent at a couple of positions.
 

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Arch Stanton;3305683 said:
I don't think Sharper is on the radar. He was a guy they thought they could target in the NO game. Besides he's old.

People, myself included, have been saying Sharper is old for many years and he is still proving them wrong.

I don't care how old he is, 9 INTs is stellar.
 

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Hoofbite;3305772 said:
I don't think anyone suggested being the Commanders.

I think Jerry has some ideas lined up but I agree with Slate a little bit, I don't know what they are or what they appear to be heading. Jerry and Co. seem to have reversed tracks on their acquisition policies.
No they haven't. Tell me who we rushed to sign in 2009? 2008? 2007? 2006?

Not since 2005 when in one day we got Marco Rivera, Anthony Henry, and Jason Ferguson have we tried to make a quick big splash. Even that was 3 days into the process.

IMO it kind of seems like the team is overestimating it's talent level.
Or that you are under estimating it.

They spent an entire draft on special teamers last season. In a draft that many considered weak, they picked a dozen guys who were viewed mostly as backups and many people expect them to use a pretty valuable pick on a KR guy this year. Not saying that I am against it, just pointing it out.

And now it kind of seems that Dallas isn't really all that interested in FA. I realize the restrictions are there but it's a little odd to see the team slow play to this extent. The safety position has a couple of guys worth looking at and Dallas just doesn't really appear to care.
It can't possibly be that the team does not agree with fan and media perception of some of our players right?

Just kind of seems Dallas is a little too comfortable. I'm all for building the team the right through the draft but if you can potentially upgrade a position in FA, why not? Even though I don't care about the cost because it's not my money and I have faith that the Jones' will get a nicely structured deal, I'm not advocating breaking the bank here.

Just a little strange I guess. Jerry has always been a guy who wasn't afraid of making a move in FA, kind of odd to see the team show no interest in doing anything. I really hope they aren't overestimating the talent at a couple of positions.
I don't think there is any fear. I also think that there really isn't anyone all that great to be had. I especially don't want to sign someone who will cost us draft picks. Screw that. If we sign no one, and simply draft guys, I will be fine with it.

That said, we will sign a couple of guys at least. I am sure of it. One reason the Jones get nicely structured deals is because they have a solid plan in place immediately.
 
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