Twitter: FS1 - Sharpe "Dak Throwing with Anticipation, CeeDee Ad Libbing"

Xeven

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Dak had problems with Pro bowl Dez too. Makes you wonder if it’s the WR.
 

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Dak had problems with Pro bowl Dez too. Makes you wonder if it’s the WR.
Dez ran 4 routes.....once athletism started to fade, Dez started expanding his route tree too late in career when quickness faded

Jumps balls, digs, Flys and posts.....
 

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Therein lies the difference: I post stats to offer criticism of Dak wherein you and others offer personal insults against those that criticize Dak.
No, not totally true. I should look up, copy & paste your attacks. Every time I post something positive about Dak, there you are criticizing, demeaning or insulting. Of course, you also post some stats to defend your argument, but don't say that's all you do when it's not true.
 

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And what happens if the receivers don’t trust the QB? Ever think of that? It seems this entire team distrusts each other considering the magnitude of mistakes they make game in and game out. So many missed assignments. Missed tackles. Missed blocks. Missed catches. Missed reads. Missed throws. Missed play calls. I’m not saying this game isn’t on Ceedee or Dak because that entire sequence of events during the interception was despicable and I’d have both of them cut for that, but the entire team has this distrusting issue that needs to be solved. It won’t be, but I’m addressing that that is indeed the problem here.

What happens if the receivers don't trust their QB? Absolutely nothing. That's a big difference compared to a QB not pulling the trigger because he doesn't trust his WR.

I have no argument on the rest of your post. But you forgot our coach. Early on it was 7-7 and 4th down somewhere midfield. You punt there. Settle down. In OT, just run the ball and kick the FG. Or kick the FG after the incompletion.
 

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Dak learning from Aaron is not a very smart move, and not surprising.
Dak is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Yet Dak is the QB for the most iconic NFL Team in the league, making millions in endorsements and salary, not bad for someone you claim is not very smart.
 

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I have been a football fan for a loooooong time and I have never seen this much effort to not blame a QB for an interception. Ever.

It's crazy. Never seen anything like it myself. Game after game, season after season, receiver after receiver.
 

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Viewing multiple plays involving CeeDee the last three games, I have determined he is a worst route runner than Dez. At least Dez would fight for the ball though. CD does not run crisp routes, rounds off his cuts, does not come off cuts with much speed, does not get himself open with any fakes or changes in speed, and i would say that he has not earned Dak's confidence at all. And of course he is known to lose concentration on the ball now and then. Dak has some problems himself, but CeeDee certainly does him no favors. After saying all that, watch Jerry give him an extension.
 

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There didnt seem to be a trust (or communication) problem when Dak was throwing CeeDee 150yards/11 for an average of 13.6. (73.3% success).

Again, I ask, why are we using the timed slant (to CD) when it doesnt suit CeeDee/nor Dak (if you take that those 3 interceptions on the play in two games, probably wouldnt have been completed even if CeeDee took the correct route).

Try it with a more physical receiver or baller, maybe a receiver we're under using atm?

Not all plays require that trust. And maybe the play would have been incomplete anyway, but probably not intercepted. Another thing to think about is, maybe Dak shouldn't have thrown that ball at all, in either case. If the DB is up too far and cutting the WRs route, maybe not throw that ball? I've seen Tom Brady throw that exact interception against the Saints last year. I remember it because it won me like 20 bucks.
 

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I love it . . Shannon ripped Dez to shreds now He is after Lamb. . Long live Dak

The Dak Fans love you Shannon
DEZ, COOP, CD, and you wonder who is next?
Just part of the Dak 666 era.......
 

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Not all plays require that trust. And maybe the play would have been incomplete anyway, but probably not intercepted. Another thing to think about is, maybe Dak shouldn't have thrown that ball at all, in either case. If the DB is up too far and cutting the WRs route, maybe not throw that ball? I've seen Tom Brady throw that exact interception against the Saints last year. I remember it because it won me like 20 bucks.
Yep, and this is why I've started that thread, it just seems the one play we don't execute
 

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No question about it


“He sucks”

“He is a number 2”

“We need Amari”

All are used to liberate Dak from any blame. Dak has been performing poorly overall for the last 15 games but Ceedee is his latest scapegoat
Brother we agree on a lot of stuff ( i know crazy right ) but you have to assign blame where it is due. Dak made some horrible throws Sunday. That one into the grass on 3rd and 3 in the first quarter comes to mind as one of the MANY.

You cannot blame a QB when the WR runs the wrong route or runs a lazy route. The QBs job is to put the ball where the WR is supposed to be. If it is a timed route then the onus is on the WR to clear out and or cross the safeties face or even run thru the defender to stop a pick from happening. Dak had a horrible game. But to blame him when the WR is at fault is asinine.
 

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Brother we agree on a lot of stuff ( i know crazy right ) but you have to assign blame where it is due. Dak made some horrible throws Sunday. That one into the grass on 3rd and 3 in the first quarter comes to mind as one of the MANY.

You cannot blame a QB when the WR runs the wrong route or runs a lazy route. The QBs job is to put the ball where the WR is supposed to be. If it is a timed route then the onus is on the WR to clear out and or cross the safeties face or even run thru the defender to stop a pick from happening. Dak had a horrible game. But to blame him when the WR is at fault is asinine.
Bro thats fine, but this play aside, you have folks running w the narrative that Dak has no help.

You know exactly why that narrative is being pushed too.
 

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Bro thats fine, but this play aside, you have folks running w the narrative that Dak has no help.

You know exactly why that narrative is being pushed too.
Of course I do. All I am saying is blame him when it actually is HIS fault. Thats all. Just like I blamed Garrett for not utilizing Dez correctly for years. Did Dez run lazy routes at times? Of course he did. However. The way Garrett used him was criminal. It took Romo changing plays at the line to get Dez running crossing routes and slants. I dont blame Dez for that. I assign the blame where it is due. To the redhead genius who had his best WR at YAC and RAC running 50 go routes a game. lol
 

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Key thing in this, as Irvin said, “we ran the same offense”. Thanks Moore for bringing back the early 90’s offense without Michael, Emmitt, and Troy.
Thank Garrett. And MM for caring so much about another coaching job and not bringing his offense with him. This team is made for the WCO. Yet. We are running the Air Coyrell scheme. Still.
 

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Thank Garrett. And MM for caring so much about another coaching job and not bringing his offense with him. This team is made for the WCO. Yet. We are running the Air Coyrell scheme. Still.

For the past 15 years we have been. I begged to get rid of it with Romo forever and now I am with Dak. It’s like I’m stuck in a time warp!
 

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Thank Garrett. And MM for caring so much about another coaching job and not bringing his offense with him. This team is made for the WCO. Yet. We are running the Air Coyrell scheme. Still.
Your QB wanted this offense. Blame him, not MM
 
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