FS1:The Cowboys are different, but are we going to get the same results?

Chuck 54

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This team has won 4 playoff games, never made it past the divisional round, since 2000.
Fans keep reaching for the low hanging fruit. But what about facts?
  • The Cowboys couldn’t win with Troy Aikman after Irvin was injured
  • The Cowboys couldn’t win with veterans Bledsoe and Testeverde, aging vets, but players who knew how to win and should have won with the right coaching and team building
  • The Cowboys couldn’t win with Tony Romo
  • The Cowboys haven’t won with Dak Prescott
The front office builds the team. The front office hires and fires coaches. The owner/gm controls the news focus and is often a distraction.

Blaming championship QBs because they were past their prime and blaming Romo and Prescott for various reasons is lazy, easy, and wrong.

Teams have won conference titles and even SBs with lesser QBs than Romo and Dak. Teams have failed to get there despite QBs like Testeverde, Ken Anderson, Philip Rivers, Randal Cunningham, Dan Fout’s, Warren Moon, Fran Tarkenton, Dan Marino. Often, teams let QBs down. In Dallas, it was Jerry’s failure as a GM for years, along with the lack of QBs and coaching (also the GMs responsibility). With both Romo and Dak, it has often been the front office failing in critical spots.

  • Romo…inadequate defense, OL, receivers, coaching - at various times. He played with excellent defenses, receivers, OLs in his career, but at least one was poor at various points in time while coaching could be questioned throughout. There was also a lack of preparation in having depth at QB in case of injury, something that never was in question under Jimmy Johnson.
  • Dak…the same serious coaching issues for most of his career. Inadequate OL at times, porous defenses at times that could never hold a lead, poor decisions on the receiving corps twice, ignoring the DL and LB position for several years when we couldn’t stop the run which hurt offensive rhythm and the clock. The past few years involved a lack of depth at OL, resulting in a playoff caliber team signing linemen off the street or playing OTs who should have never been on the roster. Last year we still had a DT issue, a lack of depth at LB and CB, OL, and we were starting WRs who shouldn’t have been playing much beyond special teams.
Yes, Tony Romo had turnover issues, some leadership issues like Cabo, and underperformed in the playoffs. Yes, Dak had his first turnover issue last season and has underperformed in the playoffs against the best defenses. But to blame these QBs for what’s wrong with the Cowboys is too easy. When last season ended, what were the obvious needs? WR, LG, DT, RB, OL depth, CB.

Today, we are still questioning our WR depth after the top 3, LG, OT depth, and RB. Frankly, I think we still have questions at DT. We lost a veteran presence, but signed a rookie stud, hoping he will be better than the Eagles stud DT who was a rookie last season. We find ourselves hoping the young DTs who have been disappointments will suddenly provide valued depth.

Our front office continues to make the same mistakes over and over again, addressing one glaring need but ignoring another. We are one injury at RB or possibly OL from struggling to run the ball and having to pass too much again. It’s not that Romo or Dak needed a perfect team around them, but they need a solid team without glaring issues at important positions, and/or they needed coaches who could adapt and change.
 

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There were issues with the play calling. Specifically:
  • To many comeback routes
  • To many option routes
  • To few play action plays
  • Too few pick plays
  • An inept screen pass game
IMO all Dak’s career he’d been hesitant to throw the ball until he sees someone open which meant good ball security but maybe leaving throws on the table.

Suddenly in 2022 he’s slinging it around all over the place and timing/chemistry was off. It was okay when he had time but a bit of extra pressure (like against the 49ers) and the wheels fell off. The result was a huge number of interceptions.
I can’t help but wonder if those routes were made by Kellen because he realized Daks inaccuracy and need to see an open receiver limited his route tree and creativity. Time will tell for sure. I’ll be interested to see what the Chargers look like this year.

I want Dak to prove us all wrong, but at this point the realist in me believes if they win a SB it will be despite Dak instead of because of him. He’s had a better team than other SB-winning QBs and for a long time. I think this is going to be another 2016, where the team is REALLY good. If he can’t get them to at least the NFC Championship, then I don’t see how he can ever get there
 

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Remember when Linehan was coordinator early in Dak’s career and Dak had an impressive record in leading late game, go ahead scores? When Moore took over, those late game comebacks evaporated and the Cowboys were suddenly terrible in those situations.

This isn’t a knock against Moore. The offense under him was more efficient overall than under Linehan, but it was also more structured, which gave Dak less freedin to Dak’s strengths, especially in late game comeback situations. It was no

McCarthy was known for giving Rodgers freedom to ad lib. Ergo, we might see a return of the old “late game heroics” Dak.
 

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The Cowboys don't need a "backup" RB, they need a complementary back that will not only relieve Pollard but also specialize in some area of need such as short yardage on 3rd down or goal to goal. Pollard isn't going to carry the ball 400+ times.

You have to figure that the Cowboys will run an average of 60 plays a game. If they pass 30 times then they must run 30 times. That works out to over 500 carries in a 17 game season. They need more than just a warm body.

It's been proven that even if the Cowboys have an elite O-line the RB has to possess some degree of NFL talent, he can't just be some warm body.

It wasn't that long ago that Jerry told us we didn't need Murray, who set a new single season Cowboys rushing record. He replaced him with Joseph Randle and it destroyed the season within two games. That team had three Pro Bowlers on it the O-line.

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just imo not giving murray the 8 mil a year , cost the cowboys and romo a chance at 2 SB's 2015 and 2016.
The line was at its best,frederick was still there, and I think romo doesnt get hurt if they keep murray.
Letting murray go changed the offense, and romo was hurt on a passing play, which with murray might have been a run.

Jerry ran murray off and gave the 8 mil to crawford! lol.
Horrible decisions that shut the window on cowboys SB quest for those years.
 

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just imo not giving murray the 8 mil a year , cost the cowboys and romo a chance at 2 SB's 2015 and 2016.
The line was at its best,frederick was still there, and I think romo doesnt get hurt if they keep murray.
Letting murray go changed the offense, and romo was hurt on a passing play, which with murray might have been a run.

Jerry ran murray off and gave the 8 mil to crawford! lol.
Horrible decisions that shut the window on cowboys SB quest for those years.
I 've always thought that. And I believe Jerry realized it too....late as usual. That's why he drafted Zeke were he did.
 

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Only 3 Pages???? :angry: This is embarrassing for Dak Hate Standards.....

Drop Fire on their......:lmao:

 

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I'm not really among the fans who require a Super Bowl to be an avid fan and supporter of the Cowboys. It'd be great to see if it happened, but there's enough to admire and enjoy without one. The regular season games will always be enough to enjoy pro football for me as a fan. Of course, winning games in the post season is, and always will be icing on the cake. Happiness has very little to do with being a fan of Super Bowl heroes in my book.
 
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I'm just happy some of dak homer fans get to see some shots of dak without a shirt and pretending to date lower-level women. It's great for them.
 

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Talking about bashing here you go bud.
If you have a Cowboy pulse in you (Sometimes I wonder with you Dak-stains) these are head-bashing moments!!!

it wasn't daks fault, the facemask got fogged up from the mouth breathing. I blame the equipment coach for not finding a product that will keep his facemask clear even when he's heavy breathing from fear.
 

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I can see it now. Season ends same way and the blame is put on Tyron being old and unable to stay healthy and Steele recovering from an ACL. It will be Dak doesn't have a good enough Oline.
don't forget it's a new offensive coordinator.

I thought we were trying to get rid of the garrett crap, well he's garretts guy..
 

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it wasn't daks fault, the facemask got fogged up from the mouth breathing. I blame the equipment coach for not finding a product that will keep his facemask clear even when he's heavy breathing from fear.
They have various AntiFog gels/liquids for scuba masks that might work. It's made for nose breathers, but worth a try.
 

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Says the person that thinks changing a few things on the offense is going to manifest talent in a QB where none exists.

Yeah. I’m delusional. Meanwhile when Dak fails again you’ll be left wondering what went wrong and next off season thinking this will be the year Dak figures it all out. We just need a few more coaches that are holding him back gone and we’ll be set, right?
I suspect that these people live in sort of a Disney fantasy.
 

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I hope he has a bad year. If Kellen and Herbert have a good year it might make the Haters wonder why we got rid of Kellen, and they will be thread after thread about it
Oh my, this hurts my stomach thinking about it. <3 dak
You ever notice how over the last 3 - 4 seasons the defense of Dak has always carried with it the bashing and tearing down of his peers? Apparently hurts sucked until they can’t say that anymore so it’s onto Wentz, Goff and Stafford.
 
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