Fumble!

[YosemiteSam]

2005 - 1 fumble for every 46 carries
2006 - no fumbles
2007 - 1 fumble for every 68 carries
2008 - 1 fumble for every 25.6 caries

That means he has doubled his fumble rate of his worst year not quadrupled.

math FTW

No, I said he quadupled the rate of the previous three years combined.

2008: 5 (fumbles) / 128 (carries) = 3.9% (fumble percentage)
Combine three previous years: 6 (fumbles) / 477 (carries) = 1.2% (fumble percentage)

So, you're right. It's not quite quaduple, but it's above triple the rate.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

No, I said he quadupled the rate of the previous three years combined.

2008: 5 (fumbles) / 128 (carries) = 3.9% (fumble percentage)
Combine three previous years: 6 (fumbles) / 477 (carries) = 1.2% (fumble percentage)

So, you're right. It's not quite quaduple, but it's above triple the rate.

It's triple because you are comparing 3 years to 1.....

 

[big dog cowboy]

Either way, I think we all agree he needs to secure the ball more. We are having enough struggles as it is!

 

[YosemiteSam]

It's triple because you are comparing 3 years to 1.....

LOL, you've got math issues dude! You've got it completely backwards.

 

[Chuck 54]

You are going to fumble from time to time due to a perfect hit, but some of his fumbles are seen coming. He doesn't protect the ball with two arms in traffic...usually you see a guy coming up from behind him because he's not outrunning too many folks, and you just know that tackler is going to swipe at the ball.

MBIII has to realize that he's still in traffic in the middle of the field, even if he's past the line of scrimmage...he's got to protect it better until he gets to the outer part of the field.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

LOL, you've got math issues dude! You've got it completely backwards.

No you're the one with it wrong. If you are comparing the ratio of fumbles from his 3 season to this one of course it will be skewed. You can't do that because of his average carries per game and his amount of carries. If you want to make his fumble ration relevant break it down on a year to year basis. You are also not factoring the increased in the amount of carries. I really don't see how you can compare a 8.3 carry per game to an 18.2 carry per game and not see some skewed results. You also don't factor in amount of games played he only played in 7 games the season.

7 games 128 carries 5 fumbles
16 games 204 carries 3 fumbles
16 games 134 carries 0 fumbles
13 games 138 carries 3 fumbles

the fact that he carries per game through 7 games is almost equal to all of 2005 and 2006 is ridiculous. Also factor in that he has more carries per game than he had in 2007. It would be more accurate if you took a sample of 7 games and compared it to this season. So find a 7 game stretch where has 128 carries in 7 games through his career. Then make the comparison He has put up season numbers in 7 games this year....

 

[YosemiteSam]

I'm not going to argue with you as you don't seem to comprehend what a ratio is. You seem to think the amount of carries has some barring on how a ratio is figured. It has no effect. The only time that would be anywhere near true is if we were talking about a minimal amount of carries. 128 carries doesn't qualify for that exemption. His fumble to carry ratio has increased almost four fold. He is fumbling more often than before. You cannot argue that, it's a fact and the number prove it.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

So, whats up with Marion? Through seven games he is one funble shy of his career fumble total of his first three years. He has five fumbles in seven games and he had six total fumbles in his first three years.


Only two things have changed. The money and now the starting job. Is it now that he got his contract that he is slipping like the rest of the team? Or is the starting job more than he can handle?

I'm not saying it's either, I'm only pointing out the things that have changed.

He must have been hanging at Turnover Tony's crib...

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I'm not going to argue with you as you don't seem to comprehend what a ratio is. You seem to think the amount of carries has some barring on how a ratio is figured. It has no effect. The only time that would be anywhere near true is if we were talking about a minimal amount of carries. 128 carries doesn't qualify for that exemption. His fumble to carry ratio has increased almost four fold. He is fumbling more often than before. You cannot argue that, it's a fact and the number prove it.

If I fumble 1 time and I run the ball run the ball one time i fumble 100% of the time.

If I fumble 1 time and I run the ball 100 times I fumble 1 percent of the time.

You're the one who isn't understanding the ratio and that the 400+ carries that you cited in the 3 year span isn't valid because the increased carries through down the scale and if you consider the one year he didn't fumble it through it's completely out of whack. So if he fumbles 6 times in 400+ carries as opposed to 5 times in 128 carries I don't see how you could even make the comparison.

 

[YosemiteSam]

If I fumble 1 time and I run the ball run the ball one time i fumble 100% of the time.

If I fumble 1 time and I run the ball 100 times I fumble 1 percent of the time.

You're the one who isn't understanding the ratio and that the 400+ carries that you cited in the 3 year span isn't valid because the increased carries through down the scale and if you consider the one year he didn't fumble it through it's completely out of whack. So if he fumbles 6 times in 400+ carries as opposed to 5 times in 128 carries I don't see how you could even make the comparison.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

.......

 

[YosemiteSam]

He must have been hanging at Turnover Tony's crib...

Maybe Jessica is cheating on Tony with Barber and the fumbles are rubbing off on him!

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I'm curious what MB3 fumble rate if you add the 5 fumbles to the 6 fumbles and the 128 carries?

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Maybe Jessica is cheating on Tony with Barber and the fumbles are rubbing off on him!

I hope not for Tony....

He would be Tiny Tony then...

 

[YosemiteSam]

.......

I did that because you don't read, you only respond. Your reponse was the same point I made about minimal carries. The problem is, 128 carries doesn't apply to the minimal carry issues when talking about ratios since one fumble would be less than 1%. 128 carries is plenty of carries to base a ratio off of.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I did that because you don't read, you only respond. Your reponse was the same point I made about minimal carries. The problem is, 128 carries doesn't apply to the minimal carry issues when talking about ratios since one fumble would be less than 1%. 128 carries is plenty of carries to base a ratio off of.

Ok so find 128 carries in a 7 game stretch to make a proper comparison okay?

 

[YosemiteSam]

I'm curious what MB3 fumble rate if you add the 5 fumbles to the 6 fumbles and the 128 carries?

You mean his career totals thus far? 11 fumbles / 604 carries = 1.8% fumble percentage.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Ok so find 128 carries in a 7 game stretch to make a proper comparison okay?

We are talking ratios. He would pretty much need to not fumble again for the rest of the season to get back to his normal fumble ratios.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

You mean his career totals thus far? 11 fumbles / 604 carries = 1.8% fumble percentage.

So how do the amount of carries not matter?

 

[YosemiteSam]

So how do the amount of carries not matter?

We are talking ratios! You cannot compare 10 fumbles to 10,000 carries vs 1 fumble to 1,000 carries straight up. Thats why you use ratios to compare the two! That is the reason ratios exist!