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percyhoward

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What would scoring 7 points have meant exactly? and double down...what if it was a passing TD?
That would have meant 35 total points either way.

Since 2000, teams with 35 points and 1 INT win 73.3% of their games.

Since 2000, teams with 28 points and 1 INT only win 56.2%
 

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Then just sign off the rest of the season then.

I already have.

No team that scores 28 with Weeden at QB and gets that special kind of gift and fails to seize that opportunity has any business thinking about being in the playoffs.

Yes. It is understood that Weeden is utter garbage.

But when you have said garbage and score 28? You deserve to be clowned if you lose.

You could give Quincy Carter at his worst and expect to win with that.

This was on Garrett and the staff.

I guess the issue here is you are focused solely on this game and why we lost it. I'm looking at the big picture. What we take away from this game for the remainder of this stretch without Romo. I don't have any doubt the defense will respond to the setback and have good games. Winning type of efforts. But Sunday was another reminder why Brandon Weeden is a lost cause and it won't matter in the end. He will find a way to lose. It's what losers do.
 

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That would have meant 35 total points either way.

Since 2000, teams with 35 points and 1 INT win 73.3% of their games.

Since 2000, teams with 28 points and 1 INT only win 56.2%

SO a loss either way yesterday?
 

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SO a loss either way yesterday?
Your point was that it was a very unlikely loss, considering the fact that we scored 28 first-half points. My point (which I think you understand) is that losing becomes much, much more likely when you --imagine this concept -- look at both halves of the game.
 

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Your point was that it was a very unlikely loss, considering the fact that we scored 28 first-half points. My point (which I think you understand) is that losing becomes much, much more likely when you --imagine this concept -- look at both halves of the game.

My point and the stat still stand. If you score early and often, you typically put pressure on the other team to keep up or get out of their gameplan. Watching the game, anyone knows that 28 points in a first half is pretty rare, but when a team does score 28 or more, they almost always win (stats back this up). Suspend belief for a moment - this would give many fans high expectations and optimism that this will be a special day after witnessing that first half. So when you come out and lay a total egg in the second half (your stats) you realize that you just witnessed a tail event where one team lost a game almost no one loses.

Your second half only stats had no team score 28 points - in fact most were 0-10 range for the game. In this case the observer watched a slaughter all game. That wasnt the reality witnessed yesterday - but then I think you know this. Most games like yesterday end like Indy last year - a decent size victory. When it doesn't the user thinks something may be rare. Your rebutale stat is garbage, because the viewer would be expected to look at yesterday and say "I cant believe I ever felt optimistic or let down - 28 points in a half is rrelevant - i need to make sure they get a passing TD in the second half

So you are arguing to argue
 

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Well, we should. It was a pretty significant screw up by the entire team. Not just Weeden or whomever people choose to blame. It just goes to show you how inept you have to be to blow that kind of lead. We almost had to go out our own way to blow it.
JG is good at beating the odds ! His TO in 1st half at 1 started it all.
And he should have realized they would have to do somethng else for 2nd half, but no he keeps doing same thing.
 

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Since 1940, there have been 744 games where a team has scored 28 points or more in the first half. That team has gone on to win 715 (96.1%)

Since 2000, there have been 201 games where a team has scored 28 points or more in the first half. That team has gone on to win 194 (96.5%)

Only one other team has ended up losing by more than 10 points - Cincy 31 vs Buffalo 49 in 2010

Did you stay up all night pulling these stats together?
 

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Most people will blame Weeden, Terrence Williams, Jason Witten for a false start, failure to resign a stud like Gardner, you name it---anything but who should bear the true responsibility.

Yeah. Dern you based god of injury.
 

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LOL.....I mean we were undermanned. People are jumping off a cliff like we should win despite not having probably 6 of our best 10 players on the field.

Excuses wont win football games... We were undermanned, and we're going to be undermanned for the quite some time... So when you get a chance to defeat a team whose talent is superior, then you better make the most of it, because things wont be getting any easier any time soon... Dallas let an opportunity slip away against Atlanta, and what's worse is that they didn't put up much of a fight... Once things started to go, and there was no Romo to reignite the team, they just laid it down... And that's the part that's scary... I thought that we had turned a corner as a team, and as an organization, and we'll find out, but what we saw yesterday is not indicative of the type of "culture" that I thought had developed around this team... How we perform over the next 7 games will be very telling as to where we are as an organization.
 

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Excuses wont win football games... We were undermanned, and we're going to be undermanned for the quite some time... So when you get a chance to defeat a team whose talent is superior, then you better make the most of it, because things wont be getting any easier any time soon... Dallas let an opportunity slip away against Atlanta, and what's worse is that they didn't put up much of a fight... Once things started to go, and there was no Romo to reignite the team, they just laid it down... And that's the part that's scary... I thought that we had turned a corner as a team, and as an organization, and we'll find out, but what we saw yesterday is not indicative of the type of "culture" that I thought had developed around this team... How we perform over the next 7 games will be very telling as to where we are as an organization.

They maybe excuses but it's why we lost. You don't think the reason why we gave up that was because we weren't good enough to hold the lead?
 
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