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Then it is unstable. I hope the surgery for this problem is better than it used to be. And it's not unlikely it will be reinjured. That's too bad.
 

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LILLURCH;2232333 said:
The guy never showed anything at wr befoe the injury what makes him think he can be any better with one?

I do like his gutsy attitude by. riding off his shoulder injury. He knows this is an oppurtunity of a lifetime for him.

Not sure how you can say this, he's NEVER really had a legit opportunity to do so, He's been learning the position since he's been here. Remember, he was a QB changing to the WR position. That takes time!!!
 

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Stanback doesn't need to be returning kickoffs.

Let Felix handle the job.
 

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links18;2232310 said:
He won't wear the harness all year, because he is going to injure the shoulder again (even worse probably) and end up on IR. I mean he is already a walking injury (Stanglass), now he is going to try to play with a harness on? :confused:

I doubt it. This is probably more of an annoyance than anything. My shoulders have subluxation problems and it's nothing more than annoyance. Occasionally, they will sublux if I do something like abduct them without keeping my palms facing out. Or, occasionally they'll sublux if I throw a football. Then again, I don't do shoulder stabilization exercises like I should. With good therapy and a shoulder harness, he'll probably be fine. Then again, I am not privy to all the information regarding his condition.

Where shoulder subluxation causes real problems is years down the road. If you don't get it fixed, scar tissue develops and can lead to a frozen shoulder.

Of course I'm just basing my ideas on the information available. Being that he's holding off on surgery, it makes sense to me.
 

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PBJTime;2232792 said:
I doubt it. This is probably more of an annoyance than anything. My shoulders have subluxation problems and it's nothing more than annoyance. Occasionally, they will sublux if I do something like abduct them without keeping my palms facing out. Or, occasionally they'll sublux if I throw a football. Then again, I don't do shoulder stabilization exercises like I should. With good therapy and a shoulder harness, he'll probably be fine. Then again, I am not privy to all the information regarding his condition.

Where shoulder subluxation causes real problems is years down the road. If you don't get it fixed, scar tissue develops and can lead to a frozen shoulder.

Of course I'm just basing my ideas on the information available. Being that he's holding off on surgery, it makes sense to me.

Subluxation is different than dislocation. In subluxation, the joint surfaces only come partly out of congruity.

In total dislocation the joint surfaces are not in congruity at all and create massive forces on tissues that frequently fail under the stress.

I've never been a fan of most sporting braces. They just don't respond effectively under the conditions when they are typically needed most. The literature is full of failed trials for different types of sporting braces. About the only decent study showed some football players benefit from wearing knee braces for MCL injury prevention only.

I really doubt the harness does more than remind him to be careful with his shoulders and may provide him with some increased level of confidence/comfort. If a true dislocating force presents itself, I doubt the brace will prevent dislocation. There is no way in the world to get good joint immobilization even in limited planes when dealing with a mobile joint like the shoulder which is padded by a fair bit of muscle and soft tissue.
 

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I kind of think he is a liability on the field w/ this injury. Much like TG was last year.
 

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big dog cowboy;2232714 said:
Stanback doesn't need to be returning kickoffs.

Let Felix handle the job.
Fans were begging Stanback to return kickoffs the past two seasons. Now you dont want him to. LOL
 

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Mr Cowboy;2231962 said:
September 03, 2008

Cowboys receiver Isaiah Stanback says he is ready to play and be the No. 3 wideout on Sunday despite his injured left shoulder. He will be forced to play with a shoulder harness all season for support and it does cause him some restriction with his left arm.

Stanback is also holding off on surgery he needs until the offseason, like he had last year on the same shoulder. But Stanback said he does not risk further damage to the shoulder. He may just have to deal with it popping in and out -- ouch.

Stanback will deal with this all season but says he could be able to return to kickoff duty at some point. From my coaching seat, I don't think that would be a good idea. Could he continue to handle the hits and falling on the shoudler? Sounds bad to me.

- Rick Herrin

Stanback is a trooper!!!
 

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Eskimo;2232839 said:
Subluxation is different than dislocation. In subluxation, the joint surfaces only come partly out of congruity.

In total dislocation the joint surfaces are not in congruity at all and create massive forces on tissues that frequently fail under the stress.

I've never been a fan of most sporting braces. They just don't respond effectively under the conditions when they are typically needed most. The literature is full of failed trials for different types of sporting braces. About the only decent study showed some football players benefit from wearing knee braces for MCL injury prevention only.

I really doubt the harness does more than remind him to be careful with his shoulders and may provide him with some increased level of confidence/comfort. If a true dislocating force presents itself, I doubt the brace will prevent dislocation. There is no way in the world to get good joint immobilization even in limited planes when dealing with a mobile joint like the shoulder which is padded by a fair bit of muscle and soft tissue.

I'm aware of this, but according to the injury report, he subluxed his shoulder, hence the reason I brought it up.

If a true dislocating force does present itself, then the stability of the joint really wouldn't matter because, by definition, it would actually be dislocating force.

In many cases, the job of a harness is to provide constant tactile cues to the wearer along with restricting range of motion. While no harness or brace will take the place of ligaments, tendons, or muscles, they definitely can aid in providing some stability. This is not even considering the fact that braces can aid in the recovery of normal joint arthrokinematics.
 
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