FWST Galloway: The Jimster states his case on T.O.

[kartr]

Good post, I've felt this way for a while myself too. I mean even if we're able to put it all together for next year and win the SB, is it worth it all falling apart the following year? (When guys like Bledsoe, Glenn, and others retire and TO creates divide or retires himself). I'm happy with the other FAs we signed in that they're young and have a future. But we better set up guys to step in behind these 'win now' guys and have them ready to.

TO is a Cowboy, and therefor I'll be rooting for him. But some parts of this team just have an artificial feeling to me. I'm a Cowboy fan true and through though, so let's go Cowboys.

The part that sticks out to me in this article:

Yes they are desperate, cause they don't know what they're doing personell wise. How else can you explain the number of poor decisions made in 2004(Jacob Rogers,Sean Ryan,Drew Henson,drafting udfa corners and skipping over the better ones,skipping over Kelly Butler(rt from Pitt) and in free agency, going after players on the way down(Marcellus Wiley,Keyshawn,Marco Rivera,Ryan Young,Aaron Glenn) and drafting players in the 2nd round with serious injury histories(Al Johnson,Kevin Burnette,Jacob Rogers). I expected better from Bill, Jerry could have done as well on his own.

 

[choachip05]

Galloway-"The word from Philadelphia is that Owens was demanding a contract that was at least $1 more than that of quarterback Donovan McNabb."

So what is this # he is asking for? or, what is McChoke making?
anyone know?

 

[kartr]

I think some of you are overstating and overcriticizing Parcells' "win today" approach.

Sure, he's doing that. We see that with Bledsoe, Owens, (if he comes), etc.
But the fact is, that is today's NFL. It is a win now proposition and Parcells isn't above that. His big, fat butt will be fired from his $5+ million a year job if he doesn't WIN! This isn't the NFL of the '70s that I loved and grew up with. The league changes year to year.

BUT, at the same time, Parcells has almost single handedly rebuilt the franchise and given it a foundation for the future that Jerry almost single- handedly destroyed with help from guys like Lacewell and Campo.

Parcells restructured the scouting dept. That's a move that is for the Cowboy's future, not just Parcells' immediate need. He's helped us obtain some real foundation stones for the franchise in guys like Witten, Ware, Spears, Canty, Newman, Julius, Barber, etc. etc. Sure he's missed on some, like Rogers, but ANY talent evaluator misses on players. Jimmy missed on a bunch of them! What would you guys do if Parcells had chosen John Avery ,(now of CFL glory), as our first round pick?!

But to me, (and I know I see this differently than some of you), I think Parcells BEST example of trying to help the future of the Cowboys is his handling of Drew Henson.

I just saw the piece on Henson last night on NFL Network. Henson said that he agreed with Key who told him that Parcells is the absolute BEST HC to come into the league and play for because he is the best at PREPARING a young player to play in the NFL.

That is exactly what Parcells has been doing for 2 years with Henson. I'm a huge Henson fan, and we can argue about him all we want, but he was no where near ready to play in the NFL when he came to us! Forget last pre-season. I watched him his first pre-season in the Monday night game against the Chiefs. Everyone was bragging on how great he looked. Well, he came in that game and it was one of the worst QB performances I have ever witnessed in almost 40 years of watching the Cowboys. Henson couldn't even throw a pass with proper mechanics. It was embarrassing and I was so disappointed!

I firmly believe his confidence would have been destroyed if Jerry would have had his way and played him over an extended period of time. Parcells is handling Henson the way he is because that's what he believes is best for Henson and the franchise and gives both of them the best opportunity to succeed in the long run.

Parcells doesn't hate Henson, he is trying to NUTURE and DEVELOP a young QB and not ruin him by playing him before he is capable of handling the responsibility.

I truly believe Henson can do it. I loved the interview last night. But, if he does it (and that's a big "if" right now), he can thank Parcells for not throwing him to the wolves like Jerry and a lot of fans wanted him to do and destroying him.

Henson is a waste of time, I would rather have Charlie Whitehurst or Michael Robinson or Brad Smith playing qb for us than him. Despite their deficits, they're at least real football players, not failed baseball players who are trying to find themselves.

 

[iceberg]

you can't be serious

wasn't it rated like in the top 3? yes, we had a very good D that lacked a pass rush. now we have a good 3/4 D that guess what, lacks a pass rush.

 

[kartr]

really? the patriots seemed to have built it up with a team approach and showed the world that a team concept DOES matter. is this the "win now" you're talking of?

dynasties got harder true. but having values and respect are still the core to winning in the end.

Exactly, they seem to be doing just fine in this new era with their 'no name qb', 'no name rb' and 'no name receivers'. They must know something the rest of the NFL doesn't.

 

[kartr]

This is a different NFL then the one the Jimster Coached in when he was with the Cowboys. Most, if not all, NFL Teams can turn it around from one year to the next...That being said, the old adage of being one player away, really does not apply any longer (I believe an article was recently posted that stated this very same theory)

My own personal theory is this...while JJ is a proven gambler...I don't believe the same can be said of BP...If this deal does go down, I truly believe that BP will have all bases covered. I also believe that if any Coach can handle TO, it is DEFINITELY Parcells.

Yeah, like the way he handle Antonio Bryant.

 

[kartr]

You give me Tom Brady or Ben Rothlisberger or Peyton Manning and we would be a winner.

Take Brady off the Pats and see how far your "team concept" gets you. Belichik is the same coach he was in Cleveland and the same coach his first few years with the Pats BEFORE Brady arrived. Check his record.

All of those teams have good defenses and qb's don't play defense. Brady makes few mistakes, while the other two make quite a few. I'd take Brady or Rothlisberger in a heartbeat,but they're not coming here. Belichik has a consistently good OL and defense, that's his main secret and he knows how to use his players and he knows that Bledsoe sucks, that's why he's here. Parcells still hasn't figured that out yet, that's why Belichik has surpassed Big Bill.

 

[kartr]

I don't share your viewpoint on Parcells, look at how young our roster is, you don't win championships with rosters this young, so I can't believe that Parcells is trying to win now, and is sacrificing the future of the organization in doing so, but not to say I don't think he's trying to win now, he is, but he very much has the future in mind...

Bledsoe is taking away the development time of a young qb and TO would take away the development time of young receivers.

 

[Cowboysguy]

Yeah, like the way he handle Antonio Bryant.

You can't compare AB to TO
If Antonio Bryant was really all that, why the heck didn't he stick in Cleveland either...
AB is a headcase, but unfortunately he isn't enough of a playmaker to justify the headache. I don't think he'll pan out any better in SF

 

[visionary]

I've always liked Parcells...truly admired the way he has coached...but as I've said, this isn't the same guy and it's because he's making decisions based on the fact that he's almost done with is career...and I am beyond sure that it's with Jerry's approval.

i agree juke, that is why i say that TOs contract (if he is to come here at all) should be as long as BPs contract. once BP goes, TO goes with him.

 

[iceberg]

Bledsoe is taking away the development time of a young qb and TO would take away the development time of young receivers.

the player should step up and take it back then.

 

[kartr]

I am rapidly coming to the conclussion Parcells tenure here is a failure.

He certainly wont leave the boys in a better position then when he came.

We may have 1 more trophy. chances are we wont, but we wont have a shot at any trophies for a few years after this debacle.

We do have more talent, but their plan is flawed(Romo, Henson,Kevin Burnette,Al Johnson). Yes, his tenure here has been a failure, our best Ol were here when he got here. We don't have qb of the future and no longer have a playoff qb on the roster.

 

[DallasInDC]

we had a formidable defense before he got here, didn't we?

and while TO does have that potential to be that big a signing, the risk is just as great it will be his worst. the TO supporters refuse to acknowlege that part and seem to keep themselves warm in the I WANNA WIN DAMN IT mantra.

I don't believe the defense that was in place before he got here had the potential that this current defense has. This defense is built for the long haul and has the potential for being great. The defense before he got here was already at its maximum potential with little to no room for improvement. That is why there are only 2-3 players left from the pre-BP days. Unless of course you think we should have kept the Ekubans, Hunters, Mario Edwards, Marcus Steeles, Derek Ross', Weatheringtons, Demtric Evans, etc.... over the current group of players we have.


And Yes, I do WANNA WIN DAMN IT. That is why I am a fan of sports and the Dallas Cowboys - the feeling of adulation when your team wins. The fulfillment (along with bragging rights) when your team proves it is better than the one across the line. I am not a fan to be buddies with the coaching staff and players and to be honest they could care even less about me. The only thing that they and I have in common is the desire to be victorious.

I think given TO's current situation the risk/reward leans toward the Cowboy's side. TO is still one of the best players in the NFL and has the potential to ignite an offense. He also has a lot to lose by acting out. It would be his 3rd and last strike. If he self-destructs again there is no opportunity for one last payday and he will ultimately tarnish his opportunity to be one of the best wr's ever and potential HOFer. This is TO’s last chance and I really think he will want to prove to everyone on and off the field that he is “a great player and person”. While I don’t agree with how TO handles himself – it’s about as immature as you can get – I also don’t agree that TO was the only one responsible for what happened in Philly. In the beginning he did what he was supposed to, even risked his career for the team to try to win a SB. His production in Philly was unquestionable and when he approached the FO about renegotiating his salary they crapped on him by trying to take a hard-line approach. When his BOY McChunky received his mega contract and took the side of management it alienated TO from the team and the organization and it all turned into a pissing match. If the FO/Mcchunky had handled the situation differently instead of being hard***es I believe the situation would have been much different. TO’s demands to philly are no different than those of other egotistical player’s. The difference is how the cheapskate Philly management handles their players. Jerry/BP handle their star players completely different than Philly

 

[DallasInDC]

Yeah, like the way he handle Antonio Bryant.

Actually, If AB had made a real impact in the beginning of the season, BP would have handled the situation much differently. Instead AB was mediocre and not worth the aggravation. AB has proved nothing since he has been in the league, Key, LT, Brian Cox all proved they were worth dealing with. TO fall is into the latter category. BP has stated that he doesn't treat all players the same or fairly and much depends on how productive a player is. AB was not that productive and until you actually reach your potential and not relying on having potential you're not worth wasting time on if you have a bad attitude.