G-Girls are going down, and here is why

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tig22 said:
This the same D that couldnt stop the Raiders or the Skins?

And you haven't faced an offense like you will Sunday yet either.


and to AT31, I think we have a better offense than the Eagles just not the D to go with it yet.

couldnt stop the raiders ? they scored 19 points in their own stadium, thats pretty good. lets see how much they score against your squad.

Skins score twice at the end of the game, other than that they were never in a position to even kick a FG for 55 minutes.

Chargers Defense let gimpy hamstring pull Hines Ward run all over them in their own stadium. But they seemed to keep your squad from scoring too many points. :D
 

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tig22 said:
This the same D that couldnt stop the Raiders or the Skins?

And you haven't faced an offense like you will Sunday yet either.


and to AT31, I think we have a better offense than the Eagles just not the D to go with it yet.

The Skins put up 14 points and the Raiders put up 19 points at home against this defense. And this defense has as many as 9 new players including 5 rookies playing in rotation. The Cowboy's defense has made mistakes but played a complete game last week, what hasn't happened is them getting out played.

Even at that the defense played well enough to win every game we've played. As far as offensive teams go we have played at least 2 teams better than your group, The Chargers and the Eagles and we won both games.

LOL if you think you are going put up a bunch of points against this Cowboy defense, I expect a close game because its the Cowboys and the Giants. But your going to face a defense that is for real on Sunday and I doubt the offense your fielding will be up to the challenge.......
 

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Wow, I can't believe Giants fans think their offense is better than the Eagles' offense, which was number one in the league before they played us.

Even if the Giants beat us, which is possible, they're going to find the sledding a LOT tougher when they don't get to play the Rams, Saints, and Cards at home.
 

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He hit him with his helmet alright, but it's a legal hit. Alot of forearm too. Be careful you're starting to sound like a Pigs fan...
 

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Cool. Another clip of Roy leading with his helmet. No wonder he seems lost in the backfield, too may shots to the noggin.

I'll tell you what is cool, cool is watching Toomer and all the other receivers short arm passes after getting "Jacked Up" by Roy Williams. Its hilarious to watch guys miss passes because they don't know where RW is LOL..........
 

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Next_years_Champs said:
I'll tell you what is cool, cool is watching Toomer and all the other receivers short arm passes after getting "Jacked Up" by Roy Williams. Its hilarious to watch guys miss passes because they don't know where RW is LOL..........

Know what's even better. Watching Roy running his *** off 10 strides behind a receiver who beat him on a post route. But I digress. And to the guy who said I was sounding like a Pigs fan, that's a low blow man.
 

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Funny we lead the NFL with 34 points a game next is SD with 29, Eagles are 24 and Cowboys are 24. So thats why I say we have a better offense.
 

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tig22 said:
Funny we lead the NFL with 34 points a game next is SD with 29, Eagles are 24 and Cowboys are 24. So thats why I say we have a better offense.

Fine, but your average points per game will take a dive after this sunday.
 

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Hoov said:
Fine, but your average points per game will take a dive after this sunday.

You don't know that, that's why we play the game.

I respect Dallas, and think it will be a great game if our defense plays halfway decent we can win but if we dont get any pressure on Bledsoe its gonna be a shoot out.
 

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tig22 said:
This the same D that couldnt stop the Raiders or the Skins?

And you haven't faced an offense like you will Sunday yet either.


and to AT31, I think we have a better offense than the Eagles just not the D to go with it yet.

The Raiders scored a whopping 19 pts, the Skins scored 14...
 

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tig22 said:
Funny we lead the NFL with 34 points a game next is SD with 29, Eagles are 24 and Cowboys are 24. So thats why I say we have a better offense.

You've also had the best starting field position in the NFL, in large part due to the fact that you are +10 in turnovers - primarily because you played a bunch of really bad teams who turn the ball over a ton. The one good team you played, who only turned it over once, shut you out in the second half because you didn't get to work with the short field. Even when you scored in the first half one of your drives was only 34 yards, and came from a turnover. But SD was too good to simply keep feeding you the ball the way the scrub teams do, and as a result you suddenly couldn't buy a point.
 

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tig22 said:
You don't know that, that's why we play the game.

I respect Dallas, and think it will be a great game if our defense plays halfway decent we can win but if we dont get any pressure on Bledsoe its gonna be a shoot out.

well, i know you meant to type "blow out" not shoot out, so i'll just take the liberty of correcting that for ya. :p: Its ok, we all make typo's from time to time.
 

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Hoov said:
well, i know you meant to type "blow out" not shoot out, so i'll just take the liberty of correcting that for ya. :p: Its ok, we all make typo's from time to time.

:eek: Shoot out is what i meant and I dont think you have the "ammo" to out gun us ;)
 

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I'm honestly not sold on the Giants offense. I really believe they are a product of the teams they've played against, the field position they've started with and the turnovers they've gotten (which comes from point one and creates point two). I think that facing our D this week will be a much different situation for Eli and he's very likely to look like the young QB he is. Because this D is going to go after him, and this O isn't going to give up the ball like the Cards/Rams/Saints. So he's going to have to move the team the length of the field repeatedly to score, and unless we have some very serious defensive lapses he's going to have a very tough go of it. Now there is always a chance for a blown coverage, as we've seen in the first few games, but as our D gets more comfortable those lapses are becoming less frequent. We had 1 against the Raiders and Moss and none against the Eagles and TO - I don't think we'll have more than 1 against Burress. And without those big plays I don't think the Giants are going to look half as scary as they did against the scrubs.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the Giants don't reach 21 pts in this game. I think 14 - 17 is about as much as they'll manage.
 

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tig22 said:
You don't know that, that's why we play the game.

I respect Dallas, and think it will be a great game if our defense plays halfway decent we can win but if we dont get any pressure on Bledsoe its gonna be a shoot out.

Welcome to our house. I think you'll find it different than playing your away game against NO.

I think you'll find our defense a little tougher than NO, Arizona, SD and the Rams. As you said though, that is why we play the games.

You have a good coach, he'll use max protect to try to keep Eli alive.

Just out of curiosity, how many points are you predicting you'll score against us ?
 

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tig22 said:
:eek: Shoot out is what i meant and I dont think you have the "ammo" to out gun us ;)

You don't have anywhere near the DBs to cover our top 4 receiving threats. And Bledsoe isn't like Eli. At this point in his career Eli is basically throwing to one guy, Burress. Bledsoe will throw the ball to whomever is open, as evinced by the fact that we have 4 guys with over 220 receiving yards after only 5 games. If that continues to play out we'll end up with 4 guys with over 700 yards each by the end of the year. That's doing a pretty good job of spreading the ball around.
 

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You don't have anywhere near the DBs to cover our top 4 receiving threats. And Bledsoe isn't like Eli. At this point in his career Eli is basically throwing to one guy, Burress. Bledsoe will throw the ball to whomever is open, as evinced by the fact that we have 4 guys with over 220 receiving yards after only 5 games. If that continues to play out we'll end up with 4 guys with over 700 yards each by the end of the year. That's doing a pretty good job of spreading the ball around.

I agree, Eli is focusing on one receiver too much, but that will get better. He also is forcing the ball a little much.

You guys can rack up all the yards you want, as long as we keep you out of the endzone and hold you to field goals, which is how our defense has been playing so far this year, so thats what I look for on Sunday.
 

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tig22 said:
I agree, Eli is focusing on one receiver too much, but that will get better. He also is forcing the ball a little much.

You guys can rack up all the yards you want, as long as we keep you out of the endzone and hold you to field goals, which is how our defense has been playing so far this year, so thats what I look for on Sunday.

It didn't play that way against SD, and I don't expect it to play that way against us. Let's look at the teams your D 'prevented' from scoring in the redzone, and their scoring efficiency (not including your game):

Rams 50% (14 trips, 7 TDs)
Saints 36% (14 tirps, 5 TDs)
Cards 8% (13 trips, 1 TD)

BTW, the Rams efficiency against you was 60%. So did you hold those teams, or did you simply play teams that shoot themselves in the foot in the redzone time and time again? The stats appear to favor the latter.

BTW, our redzone efficiency on the season is 55% (20 trips, 11 TDs).
 
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