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I'd rather line up CD Lamb in the backfield more and have him run the ball about 6-8 times/game.
The dude would never come off the field these next 4 games. ;)
 

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I hope MM tries something to get Gallup more involved. I feel like it can't be all Lamb, Ferguson, and occasional Cooks. Maybe a Wr bubble screen, or a jet sweep, to at least make the defense remember he's on the field. As far as Pollard, I feel he just runs the play as called. It's like he's not using his natural instincts as a Rb to run to daylight. Now that being said, the O-line has to do a better job of getting a push and opening holes for TP.
While I agree Gallup and Pollard have been a little bit disappointing I think they're using both of them the wrong way but I don't really care if gallop sees the field unless there's an injury there's not enough balls to go around right now lamb is an absolute beast Ferguson is a weapon that's needed to move the cha.... that other guy what else do you need??

I mean I'm not sure what kind of teams you watch in NFL but they rarely have that many targets get a lot of balls the 90s Cowboys went to Irvin and JayN along with Emmett Smith that's pretty much it that's why they called him the triplets they literally fed those dudes and the other teams knew it and hardly ever could stop it and right now outside of not having a running back like that and I don't fully blame Tony Pollard he is not a three down back he is not a power back he should not be playing in your typical first down run plays and stuff like that in my opinion they burned him out because he's not only on the field for the carries so it's not the loads of the regular carries it's the type of carries but it's also staying in for blocking staying in for running patterns staying in to be a decoy he's just been burned out his body was not built for that that's Ezekiel Elliott DeMarco Murray even for the most part if Rico dowdle would have been healthy this year he would have probably got more carries but that ankles been bothering him more than a month...​

In my opinion at the beginning of the year Malik Davis and Rico dowdle should have took over all of Ezekiel elliott's old duties and let Tony Pollard be Tony and then he would have had the energy to do the bounce outs the cutbacks and all the other stuff but people underestimated how hard it is to be a true number one running back in the league and they were calling Ezekiel Elliott washed when he was doing this same stuff no Ezekiel Elliott had about 500 more carries over his career at minimum and then if you add in college where he had back-to-back 1800 yard years his legs literally were tired and yet he could still give you 900 yards and 12 touchdowns and people were complaining because he stayed in the block he was doing all The Dirty work in short yardage he didn't have a problem when he was tired to put his head down and make sure he got that last inch because he knew how to get his pad level down we miss having Ezekiel Elliott around here even in his older injured years he helped Tony Pollard....

And I know our fan base very well if we would have cut Ezekiel Elliott and a couple weeks later brought him back under a smaller contract something similar to what New England gave him people around here would have told Jerry Howell he just keeps liking his guys he can't let go he's bringing back a wasp player he's gonna be taking up space you all would not have been happy with the decision but I guarantee our run game would be better with him here... He had a rapport with the locker room he had no problem sharing the ball with Tony Pollard he was part of the identity of this team and I get why they had to cut him but they should have probably brought him back and I know it's in hindsight but I think they hesitated because they knew the backlash they would get bringing him back.....​
So the part I agree with is they need to do something with the run game that was sad the other day Tony Pollard just look dead I mean the man had no power no energy I mean this is what happened last year at the end of the year this is not new when you give the man too many carries and too much responsibilities in blocking and whatnot he wears down people thought it was a joke when we were talking about it in the middle of the year in that game he had like 18 carries and they were saying that's about all he can handle well now you add in all the other duties I sure hope Rico dado and Malik Davis somehow get back up here now I don't care if they have to sign the lease for the rest of the year we need a guy that can come in on 1st and 2nd down or when it really is short yardage or a true run play between the tackles you know normal off tackle play we need a guy that knows how to take that type of load... I don't think there's anybody on the street at this point but man if they can't see that Tony it's already wore out just like last year he finished the season the last five games of the year at 3.8 yards per carry 51 yards a game no touchdowns this is what he looked like and he got hurt twice to boot..​
He will not be here next year that's a guarantee they will draft a very good running back in the first four rounds and they'll probably bring in a veteran a mid level guy someone around 25 years old and they will start a new running back room some of it is the offensive line but dude Tony did this same thing last year this is not new... All of us who are were Ezekiel Elliott fans were trying to warn you that Tony could not do this he was not a number one he is a great change of pace back and he's also very good coming in once the battering ram loosens up the defense..​
 

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I'd start Tolbert or Brooks over Gallup. Hell, I'd even go so far as bringing Bryant up from the PS and starting him before I put Gallup back out there if that was my only choice.
 

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I just placed Pollard on the Fall Guy Nomination list
he's got the fall guy but he can't handle what they're putting on him... i saw this coming day one..

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I don't fully blame Tony Pollard, he is not a three down back, he is not a power back ,he should not be playing in your typical first down run plays and stuff like that....
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in my opinion they burned him out because he's not only on the field for the carries so it's not the loads of the regular carries it's the type of carries but it's also staying in for blocking staying in for running patterns staying in to be a decoy he's just been burned out his body was not built for that that's Ezekiel Elliott DeMarco Murray even for the most part if Rico dowdle would have been healthy this year he would have probably got more carries but that ankles been bothering him more than a month...

In my opinion at the beginning of the year Malik Davis and Rico dowdle should have took over all of Ezekiel elliott's old duties and let Tony Pollard be Tony and then he would have had the energy to do the bounce outs the cutbacks and all the other stuff but people underestimated how hard it is to be a true number one running back in the league and they were calling Ezekiel Elliott washed when he was doing this same stuff no Ezekiel Elliott had about 500 more carries over his career at minimum and then if you add in college where he had back-to-back 1800 yard years his legs literally were tired and yet he could still give you 900 yards and 12 touchdowns and people were complaining because he stayed in the block he was doing all The Dirty work in short yardage he didn't have a problem when he was tired to put his head down and make sure he got that last inch because he knew how to get his pad level down we miss having Ezekiel Elliott around here even in his older injured years he helped Tony Pollard....

And I know our fan base very well if we would have cut Ezekiel Elliott and a couple weeks later brought him back under a smaller contract something similar to what New England gave him people around here would have told Jerry Howell he just keeps liking his guys he can't let go he's bringing back a wasp player he's gonna be taking up space you all would not have been happy with the decision but I guarantee our run game would be better with him here... He had a rapport with the locker room he had no problem sharing the ball with Tony Pollard he was part of the identity of this team and I get why they had to cut him but they should have probably brought him back and I know it's in hindsight but I think they hesitated because they knew the backlash they would get bringing him back.....

So the part I agree with is they need to do something with the run game that was sad the other day Tony Pollard just look dead I mean the man had no power no energy I mean this is what happened last year at the end of the year this is not new when you give the man too many carries and too much responsibilities in blocking and whatnot he wears down people thought it was a joke when we were talking about it in the middle of the year in that game he had like 18 carries and they were saying that's about all he can handle well now you add in all the other duties I sure hope Rico dado and Malik Davis somehow get back up here now I don't care if they have to sign the lease for the rest of the year we need a guy that can come in on 1st and 2nd down or when it really is short yardage or a true run play between the tackles you know normal off tackle play we need a guy that knows how to take that type of load... I don't think there's anybody on the street at this point but man if they can't see that Tony it's already wore out just like last year he finished the season the last five games of the year at 3.8 yards per carry 51 yards a game no touchdowns this is what he looked like and he got hurt twice to boot..​

He will not be here next year that's a guarantee they will draft a very good running back in the first four rounds and they'll probably bring in a veteran a mid level guy someone around 25 years old and they will start a new running back room some of it is the offensive line but dude Tony did this same thing last year this is not new... All of us who are were Ezekiel Elliott fans were trying to warn you that Tony could not do this he was not a number one he is a great change of pace back and he's also very good coming in once the battering ram loosens up the defense..
 

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I'd start Tolbert or Brooks over Gallup. Hell, I'd even go so far as bringing Bryant up from the PS and starting him before I put Gallup back out there if that was my only choice.
I disagree gallops of veteran he should stay on the field cause eventually he might be needed... Right now the other players have a good rhythm... But he can make that one catch that one 5050 ball or toe drags swag could change the game like TY did.. playoffs need guys who've been there even if hes hardly used he could make that one difference making block or catch.
 
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I disagree gallops of veteran he should stay on the field cause eventually he might be needed... Right now the other players have a good rhythm... But he can make that one catch that one 5050 ball or toe drags swag could change the game like TY did.. playoffs need guys who've been there even if hes hardly used he could make that one differed making block or catch.
Fair enough. I just think at this point, Tolbert or Brooks bring more to the party than Gallup.
 

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I hope MM tries something to get Gallup more involved. I feel like it can't be all Lamb, Ferguson, and occasional Cooks. Maybe a Wr bubble screen, or a jet sweep, to at least make the defense remember he's on the field. As far as Pollard, I feel he just runs the play as called. It's like he's not using his natural instincts as a Rb to run to daylight. Now that being said, the O-line has to do a better job of getting a push and opening holes for TP.
I think the biggest mistake of the offseason, or at least top 2, was thinking Pollard could be RB1 and could be our downfall in the playoffs.
 

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Fair enough. I just think at this point, Tolbert or Brooks bring more to the party than Gallup.
I don't think they do what you've been watching is a little bit of a illusion.. Right now again they're all getting bread crumbs because the other three dudes are basically handling it.. But I'm telling you you wanna bring your veterans into the playoffs there's no room for any errors whatsoever and at least gallop knows his responsibilities has been there before... Look think like a coach not a fan I don't think any of them think brooks or tobert are better than Gallup.. Are they healthier do they have more energy sure but gallop I promise you in a playoff game would be better then both of them you don't want deer in the headlights someone making a rookie mistake you just gotta grow with veterans//
 

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I think the biggest mistake of the offseason, or at least top 2, was thinking Pollard could be RB1 and could be our downfall in the playoffs.
He can be a number one but only in a running back by committee and used properly he is not being used for his skill set and they wore him out.... In this day and age in the NFL with two to three backs they're still backs like him that are considered number one the problem here is the way they're using him especially the fact that their offensive line is not opening up a lot of big holes and they're using him like a three down power back instead of rotating Rico and Malik and hunter in on these dirty plays the blocking the short yardage and saving Tony Pollard to be a number one as far as being able to be the best back on our team which I believe he is but they're misused him they used his *** up already I've been saying that since game one... Literally finished the year last year at 3.8 yards per carry no touchdowns 51 yards per game the last five games and two injuries that should have put this coaching staff on notice that they needed to be smarter... The problem isn't labeling him a number one cause he is the best back on this team the problem is they used him wrong all year and I don't know if it's too late but you better bring up Malik Davis I don't care if he used up his practice squad elevations you need to let go of some other low hanging fruit and get a guy in here that's at least been a real running back that can do some of The Dirty work I know rico's ankles messed up but you gotta have somebody that comes in from the first play of the game on 1st down running up the middle does not need to be Tony Pollard he looked absolutely wore down..
 

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he's got the fall guy but he can't handle what they're putting on him... i saw this coming day one..

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I don't fully blame Tony Pollard, he is not a three down back, he is not a power back ,he should not be playing in your typical first down run plays and stuff like that....
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in my opinion they burned him out because he's not only on the field for the carries so it's not the loads of the regular carries it's the type of carries but it's also staying in for blocking staying in for running patterns staying in to be a decoy he's just been burned out his body was not built for that that's Ezekiel Elliott DeMarco Murray even for the most part if Rico dowdle would have been healthy this year he would have probably got more carries but that ankles been bothering him more than a month...

In my opinion at the beginning of the year Malik Davis and Rico dowdle should have took over all of Ezekiel elliott's old duties and let Tony Pollard be Tony and then he would have had the energy to do the bounce outs the cutbacks and all the other stuff but people underestimated how hard it is to be a true number one running back in the league and they were calling Ezekiel Elliott washed when he was doing this same stuff no Ezekiel Elliott had about 500 more carries over his career at minimum and then if you add in college where he had back-to-back 1800 yard years his legs literally were tired and yet he could still give you 900 yards and 12 touchdowns and people were complaining because he stayed in the block he was doing all The Dirty work in short yardage he didn't have a problem when he was tired to put his head down and make sure he got that last inch because he knew how to get his pad level down we miss having Ezekiel Elliott around here even in his older injured years he helped Tony Pollard....

And I know our fan base very well if we would have cut Ezekiel Elliott and a couple weeks later brought him back under a smaller contract something similar to what New England gave him people around here would have told Jerry Howell he just keeps liking his guys he can't let go he's bringing back a wasp player he's gonna be taking up space you all would not have been happy with the decision but I guarantee our run game would be better with him here... He had a rapport with the locker room he had no problem sharing the ball with Tony Pollard he was part of the identity of this team and I get why they had to cut him but they should have probably brought him back and I know it's in hindsight but I think they hesitated because they knew the backlash they would get bringing him back.....

So the part I agree with is they need to do something with the run game that was sad the other day Tony Pollard just look dead I mean the man had no power no energy I mean this is what happened last year at the end of the year this is not new when you give the man too many carries and too much responsibilities in blocking and whatnot he wears down people thought it was a joke when we were talking about it in the middle of the year in that game he had like 18 carries and they were saying that's about all he can handle well now you add in all the other duties I sure hope Rico dado and Malik Davis somehow get back up here now I don't care if they have to sign the lease for the rest of the year we need a guy that can come in on 1st and 2nd down or when it really is short yardage or a true run play between the tackles you know normal off tackle play we need a guy that knows how to take that type of load... I don't think there's anybody on the street at this point but man if they can't see that Tony it's already wore out just like last year he finished the season the last five games of the year at 3.8 yards per carry 51 yards a game no touchdowns this is what he looked like and he got hurt twice to boot..​

He will not be here next year that's a guarantee they will draft a very good running back in the first four rounds and they'll probably bring in a veteran a mid level guy someone around 25 years old and they will start a new running back room some of it is the offensive line but dude Tony did this same thing last year this is not new... All of us who are were Ezekiel Elliott fans were trying to warn you that Tony could not do this he was not a number one he is a great change of pace back and he's also very good coming in once the battering ram loosens up the defense..
Then with your defense......you've confirmed the Pollard nomination for this year's Fall Guy list. I'm also adding a criteria for Fall Guy....."have a bit of jingle & paper in your pocket and you may get nominated."
 

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Then with your defense......you've confirmed the Pollard nomination for this year's Fall Guy list. I'm also adding a criteria for Fall Guy....."have a bit of jingle & paper in your pocket and you may get nominated."
he's not a fall guy the cowboys are in a divsion race for the 2nd seed already locked the the playoffs 3 weeks ago, so there is no fall guy... so i'm not sure what you're implying coaching staff misused our running back and OL wa sshaky but TP had solid year but he was NOT coming back anyway, so i'm not sure what you're trying to get across.. we've survived even with tony pollard being the number one but stating obvious issues
 

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I hope MM tries something to get Gallup more involved. I feel like it can't be all Lamb, Ferguson, and occasional Cooks.
He can't throw himself the ball. At least twice against the Lions he was WIDE open. Not the first game that has happened either.

12 targets outside Lamb and Cooks in that game. 6 of those were to Ferg. 3 to Pollard so that leaves just 3 for everyone else.
 

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As far as Pollard, I feel he just runs the play as called. It's like he's not using his natural instincts as a Rb to run to daylight. Now that being said, the O-line has to do a better job of getting a push and opening holes for TP.
Bad blocking. Bad scheme. TP hasn't had a chance on so many carries this year it's ridiculous. I've never seen so many running plays where him or Rice get hit at or behind the LOS so much. Not even in the 1-15 season. MM insists on ramming up the middle for some stupid reason and it's very obvious it isn't working.
 

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Gallup saves $9.5m as a post June 1 cut. Only DLaw and Prescott save more.

I strongly suspect he will be a post June 1 cut. Maybe if he is rational he takes a big paycut and stays on the team but agents tend to try to push their clients away from that.
There is no way in heck Gallup is a cowboy next year under his current contract.
 

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he's not a fall guy the cowboys are in a divsion race for the 2nd seed already locked the the playoffs 3 weeks ago, so there is no fall guy... so i'm not sure what you're implying coaching staff misused our running back and OL wa sshaky but TP had solid year but he was NOT coming back anyway, so i'm not sure what you're trying to get across.. we've survived even with tony pollard being the number one but stating obvious issues
Fall Guy definition (as I created): constantly bashing, blaming a guy on the team for many faults that aren't his or his alone with the team. Past winners: Dez, Zeke (2 time winner), Amari, and Dak, Gallup.

So yes, Tony Pollard has made the list of nominees for this year.
 

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I hope MM tries something to get Gallup more involved. I feel like it can't be all Lamb, Ferguson, and occasional Cooks. Maybe a Wr bubble screen, or a jet sweep, to at least make the defense remember he's on the field. As far as Pollard, I feel he just runs the play as called. It's like he's not using his natural instincts as a Rb to run to daylight. Now that being said, the O-line has to do a better job of getting a push and opening holes for TP.
I hope MM keeps feeding lamb and Ferg. Because they make plays. I’m not calling many plays where Tolbert or Gallup is the initial target. If the target is covered then fine but design plays were they are the target shouldn’t happen more than maybe once or twice a game when you’ve seen something to take advantage of
 

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There is no way in heck Gallup is a cowboy next year under his current contract.
And he shouldn’t. I like Gallup and love his sideline ability but he’s not worth the cost. Biadasz, pollard, Gallup should be let walk or cut in gallups case. None are worth the cost of another contract. Save the money for lamb, micah and such
 

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Fall Guy definition (as I created): constantly bashing, blaming a guy on the team for many faults that aren't his or his alone with the team. Past winners: Dez, Zeke (2 time winner), Amari, and Dak, Gallup.

So yes, Tony Pollard has made the list of nominees for this year.
He may be a nominee but I didn't say anything about that so leave that off my feed... He literally has been a disappointment but he's not alone some of it is the offensive line and again I blame the coaching for the way he was used.... Prescott and zeke those were just straight up haters..

People commenting on Tony we're just being honest it literally is being misused so we blame some of the coaching and the offensive line schemes... They don't fit him.. They wore him out so I'm not using the guy as a phone guy we're just talking about Tony Pollard not being Tony since mid season last year.. I blame the coaches the offensive line the scheme so where am I making him the fall guy we're simply stating he's underachieving right now and he doesn't have the burst we were hoping for he doesn't have the big playability the touchdowns none of it it's gone..

If they would have started out this year like I've already said five times using Malik and Rico or have they brought back zeke and used Tony properly Tony would be having a very good year right now he's having a solid year very average but you don't pay $10 million to an average player... Look at how much guys like DeAndre swift and some of the other running backs all making under 2 million or a lot of them making under 6 million somehow we end up paying Tony a premium for very average play and no we're not blaming him I'm blaming the coaching staff..
 
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