Gallup TD that wasn’t

[Point-of-the-Star]

In the 49ers they just gave McCaffery a TD with the same situation

The difference being the orientation of the body to the out of bounds line. Lamb had his back to the out line (requires whole foot in) while McCaffery was facing while going out per momentum (toe drag is considered in bounds). This is the explanation they gave with the Lamb catch.

I don't like the rule as it is interpreted but it is the rule now.

 

[MarcusRock]

The worst call was the 35 yard completion in the first half that was a clear incomplete pass for the Texans. Under every single rule in the book that was a clear drop. The fact it was reviewed and still called a catch was just pure comedy gold.

Yeah I didn’t get that. It clearly hit the ground and it moved. That should be an easy incompletion after review.

If the referees can keep the games close for television and betting purposes, they will.

I think that it was incomplete. However, the issue I had was the one that was to the Texans WR that we challenged. The tip of the ball moved when it was in the ground. Therefore, I think Mike was right, and that should have been overturned to an incomplete pass.

The ball moving shouldn't have even come into play. I mentioned this in the game thread as it was going on and called it a catch early because of the video below. @phildadon86, back me up, bro. Lol. From the rules above, he satisfies the requirements for a catch which TODAY, you can do on the way down to the ground. In Dez' day you couldn't, so back then, the steps you took in going to the ground did not matter. You could take 6 steps and it wouldn't matter if you didn't survive the ground. When they rolled out the new rule, they showed Dez' catch and say it was a catch by today's rules at the point he took his 3rd step (LINK). Moore took 4 by my count:

RULE 8 FORWARD PASS, BACKWARD PASS, FUMBLE
SECTION 1
ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS. A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is
complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is
inbounds:
(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
(c) after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take
an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.​

 

[MarcusRock]

His heel touched out of bounds exactly like CDs catch gtfoh

His foot also dragged to the boundary before doing so. Lamb's did not. He backward stepped out of bounds.

 

[Dallasfann]

The ball moving shouldn't have even come into play. I mentioned this in the game thread as it was going on and called it a catch early because of the video below. @phildadon86, back me up, bro. Lol. From the rules above, he satisfies the requirements for a catch which TODAY, you can do on the way down to the ground. In Dez' day you couldn't, so back then, the steps you took in going to the ground did not matter. You could take 6 steps and it wouldn't matter if you didn't survive the ground. When they rolled out the new rule, they showed Dez' catch and say it was a catch by today's rules at the point he took his 3rd step (LINK). Moore took 4 by my count:

RULE 8 FORWARD PASS, BACKWARD PASS, FUMBLE
SECTION 1
ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS. A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is
complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is
inbounds:
(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
(c) after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take
an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.​

You went through a lot of trouble to make your point so all I'll say is. Agree to disagree haha. I just saw it as a drop. I'm not mad that you disagree though.

 

[Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius]

LINK). Moore took 4 by my count:

RULE 8 FORWARD PASS, BACKWARD PASS, FUMBLE
SECTION 1
ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS. A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is
complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is
inbounds:
(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
(c) after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take
an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.

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You went through a lot of trouble to make your point so all I'll say is. Agree to disagree haha. I just saw it as a drop. I'm not mad that you disagree though.

And with all that research they still LOST

 

[Proof]

Kills me that after all these years with this rule, "fans" still don't know the difference.

It was pretty clear when the ball popped out that it wasn't a catch.

had his other door touched none of that would’ve mattered and it would have been complete. good on you for being on top of it though. king “fan”

 

[MarcusRock]

You went through a lot of trouble to make your point so all I'll say is. Agree to disagree haha. I just saw it as a drop. I'm not mad that you disagree though.

I like video projects so no worries either way. First stop-start count steps video I've ever done so you're witnessing history! Lol.

 

[Cowboyz88]

had his other door touched none of that would’ve mattered and it would have been complete. good on you for being on top of it though. king “fan”

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

He didn't, so it wasn't. Queen "fan."

 

[KJJ]

The worst call was the 35 yard completion in the first half that was a clear incomplete pass for the Texans. Under every single rule in the book that was a clear drop. The fact it was reviewed and still called a catch was just pure comedy gold.

I didn’t get the game I had to watch it on red zone but if you’re talking about the catch where the video was posted in this thread, that was a clear catch. Scroll to page 2 to find the video clip.

 

[adwar]

The ball moving shouldn't have even come into play. I mentioned this in the game thread as it was going on and called it a catch early because of the video below. @phildadon86, back me up, bro. Lol. From the rules above, he satisfies the requirements for a catch which TODAY, you can do on the way down to the ground. In Dez' day you couldn't, so back then, the steps you took in going to the ground did not matter. You could take 6 steps and it wouldn't matter if you didn't survive the ground. When they rolled out the new rule, they showed Dez' catch and say it was a catch by today's rules at the point he took his 3rd step (LINK). Moore took 4 by my count:

RULE 8 FORWARD PASS, BACKWARD PASS, FUMBLE
SECTION 1
ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS. A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is
complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is
inbounds:
(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
(c) after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take
an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.​

You are so full of crap… you give him 3 steps before he actually posses the ball

 

[Dallasfann]

I didn’t get the game I had to watch it on red zone but if you’re talking about the catch where the video was posted in this thread, that was a clear catch. Scroll to page 2 to find the video clip.

I mean a clear catch would be where the ball doesn't move when he hits the ground. Like...Noah Browns catch on the final drive we could both agree that was a "clear catch".You and I are disagreeing that it was a catch or not so that would imply it wasn't a "clear catch". Like I said before agree to disagree.

 

[Proof]

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

He didn't, so it wasn't. Queen "fan."

Right, the ball popping out wasn’t the only contributing factor is my point. All good, continues being goofy

 

[KJJ]

I mean a clear catch would be where the ball doesn't move when he hits the ground. Like...Noah Browns catch on the final drive we could both agree that was a "clear catch".You and I are disagreeing that it was a catch or not so that would imply it wasn't a "clear catch". Like I said before agree to disagree.

The Texan receiver brought the ball into his body as he was going to the ground and cradled it. Although the ball moved you never clearly saw it touch the ground. The receiver made a clear football move and you could never see the ball touch the ground. Plus it was called a catch on the field.

 

[adwar]

The Texan receiver brought the ball into his body as he was going to the ground and cradled it. Although the ball moved you never clearly saw it touch the ground. The receiver made a clear football move and you could never see the ball touch the ground. Plus it was called a catch on the field.

It clearly touched the ground and left his hand

 

[TequilaCowboy]

I think that it was incomplete. However, the issue I had was the one that was to the Texans WR that we challenged. The tip of the ball moved when it was in the ground. Therefore, I think Mike was right, and that should have been overturned to an incomplete pass.

Even The Great Blind-ino agreed it was a no catch.

 

[adwar]

Lamb got his heel down but not his toe. Since he was facing the QB this is incomplete. 1 knee = 2 feet, but the heal does not equal a toe .McCaffery barely got his toe in first so its a TB

 

[KJJ]

It clearly touched the ground and left his hand

It’s not very clear that it touched the ground and he still had control of it. The ball can touch the ground provided the receiver has control. It was reviewed and It was a good call.

 

[adwar]

It’s not very clear that it touched the ground and he still had control of it. The ball can touch the ground provided the receiver has control. It was reviewed and It was a good call.

It was a bad call… it hit the ground and moved out of his hand. Its pretty clear

 

[adwar]

And just for clarity.. Lamb wasn’t a TD and the Gallup play wasn’t even close to being a catch

 

[MarcusRock]

You are so full of crap… you give him 3 steps before he actually posses the ball

You saw him bobble the ball before he hit the ground? Riiiiight. He snagged with one hand, brought it to the second and then tucked it. He had possession all the way to the ground before he rolled over and the ball touched. But 4 steps before then. You wanna say 3? Okay. Still a catch.