Garrett 13 in HC Power Rankings

[Doomsday101]

You can't separate the role of player development from the role of player selection, so trying to parse the two is pointless. What we know is that he's the primary agent in the organization for player development, and that everybody else who has a role there reports to Jason. And we know he's got some role in player selection, because we see him in the draft room, we get stories about him reviewing tape on Elliott down to the last day before the draft, we see the role his subordinate coaches play on draft day, because we've been told that Garrett came in with strong feelings about how players and coaches need to work together to build a team, and because it only makes sense that an NFL head coach has input in player selection. Nobody disputes Bill Parcel's role in the draft. Wade came out and publicly abdicated his role in player selection, saying his job is to coach the players Jerry selects. With Jason, Jerry, Stephen, and Jason have said all along the selection process is a collaborative effort. There's no good reason to disbelieve them unless it's just what you want to believe.

As a side note, "shuffling" is a fair term for 2012. Not sure what issue you had with me bringing it up, but the fact remains they've reorganized the scouting department quite a bit during Garrett's tenure. He doesn't have the authority to do that singlehandedly, but then nobody ever suggested he did. What I suggested was that it was done collaboratively, that it correlated to the team winning more and having better players, and that he deserves credit for whatever his role was in the shuffling. Only if you have an agenda would you believe all this stuff happens without a lot of input from the team's head coach.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2012/05/25/veteran-scout-addition-among-staff-changes

True and even Dak said his interview with Garrett was the most in depth than from any other HC.

https://www.seccountry.com/mississi...oach-jason-garrett-to-believe-in-dak-prescott

 

[Idgit]

True and even Dak said his interview with Garrett was the most in depth than from any other HC.

https://www.seccountry.com/mississi...oach-jason-garrett-to-believe-in-dak-prescott

Good recall. Yeah, there's tons of stuff out there suggesting the role coaches play in evaluating players. We don't know what the specific process is, but we don't really need to to know that the impact is significant.

Prescott said Cowboys coach Jason Garrett grilled him the most of anyone about his DUI in Starkville, which came shortly before the draft.
In the middle of talking about X’s and O’s during Prescott’s pre-draft visit, Garrett suddenly shifted the conversation.
“What was going on with the DUI?” he said abruptly.

Prescott answered him the way he answered everyone.

“I didn’t feel I was drunk,” he responded. “I had a couple drinks at the bar. I know eyes were on me. I got in my truck and hit the gas. I was speeding. But I wasn’t drunk. I put myself in a position I shouldn’t have.”
Good answer. But it didn’t suffice for Garrett.
The coach went on with more pointed and uncomfortable questioning:
“What the heck were you thinking? What would we be getting here?”
Prescott kept his cool, as he might while trying to bring his team back from a fourth-quarter deficit.
“I don’t know what else you want me to say,” he told Garrett. “This is what happened. I’m completely accountable for it. It’s not going to happen again.”
That was enough.
“He was so mature and matter-of-fact,” Garrett said. “He handled it so well. It was a very important part of our evaluation of him.”
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[Doomsday101]

Good recall. Yeah, there's tons of stuff out there suggesting the role coaches play in evaluating players. We don't know what the specific process is, but we don't really need to to know that the impact is significant.

Prescott said Cowboys coach Jason Garrett grilled him the most of anyone about his DUI in Starkville, which came shortly before the draft.
In the middle of talking about X’s and O’s during Prescott’s pre-draft visit, Garrett suddenly shifted the conversation.
“What was going on with the DUI?” he said abruptly.

Prescott answered him the way he answered everyone.

“I didn’t feel I was drunk,” he responded. “I had a couple drinks at the bar. I know eyes were on me. I got in my truck and hit the gas. I was speeding. But I wasn’t drunk. I put myself in a position I shouldn’t have.”
Good answer. But it didn’t suffice for Garrett.
The coach went on with more pointed and uncomfortable questioning:
“What the heck were you thinking? What would we be getting here?”
Prescott kept his cool, as he might while trying to bring his team back from a fourth-quarter deficit.
“I don’t know what else you want me to say,” he told Garrett. “This is what happened. I’m completely accountable for it. It’s not going to happen again.”
That was enough.
“He was so mature and matter-of-fact,” Garrett said. “He handled it so well. It was a very important part of our evaluation of him.”
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For those who think Garrett is nothing but a sideline hand clapper all I can say is forget those fools, they have no clue what Garrett does for this organization. Jerry and Stephen trust him and they work closely with each other along with McCray. I have never claimed Garrett is out there doing it all himself but I will continue to say he is a big part of what the Cowboys are trying to put together. For the pig headed here it will not matter what Garrett accomplishes with the Cowboys, they will always refuse to give him any just dues.

I said at the time after the 3rd 8-8 season that if it where my call I would fire Garrett. After the 2014 season and seeing him bringing this team back to it's roots I was more inclined to back Jerry choice of keeping Garrett as HC.

In the end for me Garrett still has much to prove but I at least give him the opportunity to prove it.

 

[Idgit]

For those who think Garrett is nothing but a sideline hand clapper all I can say is forget those fools, they have no clue what Garrett does for this organization. Jerry and Stephen trust him and they work closely with each other along with McCray. I have never claimed Garrett is out there doing it all himself but I will continue to say he is a big part of what the Cowboys are trying to put together. For the pig headed here it will not matter what Garrett accomplishes with the Cowboys, they will always refuse to give him any just dues.

I said at the time after the 3rd 8-8 season that if it where my call I would fire Garrett. After the 2014 season and seeing him bringing this team back to it's roots I was more inclined to back Jerry choice of keeping Garrett as HC.

In the end for me Garrett still has much to prove but I at least give him the opportunity to prove it.

I think you and I are in the same place with him. People tend to think I love the guy, because I defend him so consistently, but I only do that because so much of the criticism is really unfair or is just plain stupid. The reality is, he's got one of the biggest coaching jobs in the league, and works with an ownership that alternately makes things really easy and really really hard on him. It's a big spotlight, with a big owner, and a big tradition. It's not really a coincidence that we've struggled to win championships in the salary cap era.

Jason does a good job, generally, and it shows because the team is winning more games, is deeper, and closer than it's been in ages. But he's made his share of mistakes along the way. And it remains to be seen whether he's really the guy to bring Superbowls back to Dallas. I think things look pretty good for him right now, but that can change in a hurry.

If we fail now, though, it's going to be really demoralizing. Because I think JG is about as close to a great fit for this ownership structure and the league right now as we're going to get. Even a better Xs and Os coach, or one with a ton of skins on his wall coming in is going to have his work cut out for him in Dallas. I really don't want to go through all that again.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think you and I are in the same place with him. People tend to think I love the guy, because I defend him so consistently, but I only do that because so much of the criticism is really unfair or is just plain stupid. The reality is, he's got one of the biggest coaching jobs in the league, and works with an ownership that alternately makes things really easy and really really hard on him. It's a big spotlight, with a big owner, and a big tradition. It's not really a coincidence that we've struggled to win championships in the salary cap era.

Jason does a good job, generally, and it shows because the team is winning more games, is deeper, and closer than it's been in ages. But he's made his share of mistakes along the way. And it remains to be seen whether he's really the guy to bring Superbowls back to Dallas. I think things look pretty good for him right now, but that can change in a hurry.

If we fail now, though, it's going to be really demoralizing. Because I think JG is about as close to a great fit for this ownership structure and the league right now as we're going to get. Even a better Xs and Os coach, or one with a ton of skins on his wall coming in is going to have his work cut out for him in Dallas. I really don't want to go through all that again.

Your right we both are on the same page in terms of Garrett. Am I a fan of his? of course he is the HC of the Cowboys and I want nothing more than success. Is he beyond getting fired? NO his job like any HC is to win and compete for championship and eventually get that championship and that will not happen if this team takes 1 step forward and 2 steps back, I think this is a big year facing Garrett. Hard schedule and a team who is expected to compete for a title. Stage is set for Garrett, he can’t afford a failed season

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Speaking of parsing.

That's why you are a hoot and are entertained by you. You accuse people of doing things and then you do the same thing.

That is not parsing. Parsing is when break down something and analyze it in a reductionist manner. I don't see that as a bad thing. I just point out when it's done poorly.

Nonetheless, what I did was characterize your overall position ie that is the reaction I would expect from a character who had seen an embarrassing loss.

Your take is what I would expect had we been embarrassed in that playoff game. You're trying to parcel out blame to a scapegoat. It was also in an effort to contrast how I feel about it:

Given the rookie class that Garrett developed being a smashing success and that the roster being so young should continue to grow I am not disappointed in the team's performance in that game nor the season as a whole. I can understand why the AP would give Garrett the CotY.

I did not lose sight of what expectations were after the Seattle game. The team overachieved big time relative to that.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Speaking of parsing.

That's why you are a hoot and are entertained by you. You accuse people of doing things and then you do the same thing.

And BTW, this "you do it too" routine doesn't accomplish what you want it to.

"They did it too" stopped being an excuse for poor behavior and performance when I was little more than a toddler. Meanwhile you are admitting that you are guilty as charged and the comment struck home.

Doesn't look very imaginative either.

 

[waving monkey]

What's really bizarre here is that you are seeing people that want to give Garrett credit for the development of the roster and the team then want to excuse Garrett for playoff shortcomings because of the defense. How can you hold Garrett responsible for playoff shortcomings with that defense, they say...........

So how does this all work? Garrett should be getting credit for the development of the roster but only for the offense? Because if Garrett is the one we should be giving credit to for apparently developing and building this roster, then shouldn't we look to him as the reason the defense simply wasn't up to snuff in key games the last few years?

We are now rebuilding the defense not that we haven't been rebuilding all along but this year we turned our attention to defense.
A total rebuild is hard to put years on it it all revolves around the QB. We lucked into our franchise QB last year.
Six years is plenty of time to finish a rebuild and get the team play off experience enough to be a play off contender.
We're there right now. Go ask GM's around the league how often a rookie QB beats a veteran team like the Green Bay Packers
in the play offs.Let me say also if we get beaten this year in the play offs by Green Bay [Rogers] it will mean we got beat by
a better team with debatable the second best QB in the NFL. It happens.

Garrett is a sound head coach doing it the right way. I think he's in the top ten coaches right now and will be even better
as the experience of years is accumulated.That said the time is at hand. Garrett doesn't have a finished team yet but
I don't think many teams do any more. This entire organization has done a make over and is now one of the best in the league.
JJones made the hire and Garrett has rebuilt the staff and roster. There have been some learning curves and mishandled
responsibilities on Garrett's part but he changed where he had weaknesses and keep stacking one day at a time.

 

[DejectedFan1996]

Hardy is no longer here Garrett is. Terrified? lol ok.

I meant when he was reigning terror on the sidelines during the Giants game.

And yes he's gone but doesn't change the fact Garrett was shook and can't handle players such as Hardy.

 

[Wood]

25 is too high for Doug Peterson

 

[waving monkey]

I meant when he was reigning terror on the sidelines during the Giants game.

And yes he's gone but doesn't change the fact Garrett was shook and can't handle players such as Hardy.

please show 'facts'

 

[visionary]

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3...chick-tops-2017-nfl-head-coach-power-rankings

#13?
Way too high

 

[DejectedFan1996]

please show 'facts'

Watch any video during the altercation. Garrett stands there and then rubs his hands through his hair while coaches get shoved and clipboards get slapped.

Garrett wanted NO parts of Hardy. Anyone could see that. Was probably ******** bricks

 

[casmith07]

Head coach power rankings? Talk about jumping the shark with trash material.

If you're going to do it, go all the way. I want to see Stadium Ticket Taker Power Rankings. Parking Attendant Power Rankings. Come on, NFL.com -- lets see it.

How about "Ref Most Likely To Blow An Obvious Call On Sunday" Power Rankings?

 

[Pants]

clap on (clap, clap), clap off (clap, clap), clap on-clap off, the Garrett


I don't mind him, I like what he is trying to do, I just fear if/when he has to make in-game decisions with the game on the line...I have yet to see that level of coaching from him.....but, I like the culture that he has been building and your rarely hear a player saying anything but something positive about him...now, get to class and learn that pesky portion of how to manage a game on the line and then he goes top 10

 

[waving monkey]

Watch any video during the altercation. Garrett stands there and then rubs his hands through his hair while coaches get shoved and clipboards get slapped.

Garrett wanted NO parts of Hardy. Anyone could see that. Was probably ****ting bricks

what would you have him do?