Garrett = Campo

[john van brocklin]

Both get their teams ready to play.

Teams played hard for both.

Both don't add much X and O benefit to the club.

Both are not any good at in game adjustments.

Both are very conservative.

Both don't challenge Jerry's authority.

Both will end up having a 5 and 11 won/lost record on their coaching resumes

If not for Romo, I doubt Garrett would have had all those 8 and 8 seasons.

Look at this seasons disaster as proof.

Anyone else see any similarities ?

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

I think you've listed enough similarities.

 

[john van brocklin]

Maybe both will be canned ???

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Rant zone in 5,4,3,2,1,

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Campo's teams did not play hard for him. He had guys like Nguyen who were self starters but Campo shouldn't get credit for that. One of the first things Parcells did was make them actually accountable in the weight room and the like when he came in.

Campo was a defensive coach.

Campo has a record about .20 worse than Garrett.

He was from the 90s teams like Garrett but I just don't see the comparison.

Now they may make you feel the same way but that is something entirely different.

 

[khiladi]

Are we insulting Campo now?

 

[jazzcat22]

Rant zone in 5,4,3,2,1,

That should go for 99.5% of the threads.....even a thread on the cheerleaders turns into a Garrett, or Jones, or insert player hate rant thread...

 

[LittleD]

Both get their teams ready to play.

Teams played hard for both.

Both don't add much X and O benefit to the club.

Both are not any good at in game adjustments.

Both are very conservative.

Both don't challenge Jerry's authority.

Both will end up having a 5 and 11 won/lost record on their coaching resumes

If not for Romo, I doubt Garrett would have had all those 8 and 8 seasons.

Look at this seasons disaster as proof.

Anyone else see any similarities ?

Actually, Campo was a pretty good defensive coach. His teams played hard with marginal talent. Garrett on the other hand was not and is
not a seasoned coach. He seems to know only what Norv Turner taught him all those years ago but, I think Norv didn't teach him to read
and react to defensive changes teams make. Garrett's offense is stale, uninspired, plain and easily defensed unless you have a Romo who
can react in real time. Garrett is also paralyzed by the idea he might make a mistake so his teams make plenty for him. The present day
Cowboys are overhyped, overrated and under coached IMVHO!

 

[visionary]

Both get their teams ready to play.

Teams played hard for both.

Both don't add much X and O benefit to the club.

Both are not any good at in game adjustments.

Both are very conservative.

Both don't challenge Jerry's authority.

Both will end up having a 5 and 11 won/lost record on their coaching resumes

If not for Romo, I doubt Garrett would have had all those 8 and 8 seasons.

Look at this seasons disaster as proof.

Anyone else see any similarities ?

Major difference: Campo did not waste the careers of a top 5-7 QB and a HOF TE and DE/OLB

I really believe that with a good HC, romo could have gone into the HOF

 

[Doomsay]

Coach A Coaching Career A.... Prior to HC
Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1971–1972 Central Connecticut (assistant)
1973 Albany (assistant)
1974 Bridgeport (assistant)
1975 Pittsburgh (assistant)
1976 Washington State (DB)
1977–1979 Boise State (DB)
1980 Oregon State (assistant)
1981–1982 Weber State (assistant)
1983 Iowa State (DB)
1984–1986 Syracuse (DB)
1987–1988 Miami (FL) (DB)
1989–1990 Dallas Cowboys (DA)
1991–1994 Dallas Cowboys (DB)
1995–1999 Dallas Cowboys (DC)


Coaching Career B...Prior to HC


2005–2006 Miami Dolphins (QB)
2007 Dallas Cowboys (OC)
2008–2010 Dallas Cowboys (Asst. HC/OC)



One of these things is not like the other.

 

[khiladi]

Actually, Campo was a pretty good defensive coach. His teams played hard with marginal talent. Garrett on the other hand was not and is
not a seasoned coach. He seems to know only what Norv Turner taught him all those years ago but, I think Norv didn't teach him to read
and react to defensive changes teams make. Garrett's offense is stale, uninspired, plain and easily defensed unless you have a Romo who
can react in real time. Garrett is also paralyzed by the idea he might make a mistake so his teams make plenty for him. The present day
Cowboys are overhyped, overrated and under coached IMVHO!

He was here one year under Norv, before Norv left. He was the third-straight by QB as well. It's most likely a myth Garrett picked anything, if but a little, from Norv.

He spent most of his time under Zampese and Gailey and the like, when Dallas offensive play-calling started to deteriorate.

Norv's offense was built on play-action and multiple combinations from the same formation.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

That should go for 99.5% of the threads.....even a thread on the cheerleaders turns into a Garrett, or Jones, or insert player hate rant thread...

Ha Ha

You're right tho

Even Witten gets bashed

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Norv's offense was built on play-action and multiple combinations from the same formation.

Those are things Red seems to be allergic too

 

[khiladi]

Ha Ha

You're right tho

Even Witten gets bashed

He is pretty slow these days. Those RACs are getting shorter and shorter..

 

[visionary]

Both get their teams ready to play.

Teams played hard for both.

Both don't add much X and O benefit to the club.

Both are not any good at in game adjustments.

Both are very conservative.

Both don't challenge Jerry's authority.

Both will end up having a 5 and 11 won/lost record on their coaching resumes

If not for Romo, I doubt Garrett would have had all those 8 and 8 seasons.

Look at this seasons disaster as proof.

Anyone else see any similarities ?

Wait, are you saying that Campo was "the next Landry" and we missed it?

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

He is pretty slow these days. Those RACs are getting shorter and shorter..

True, but he's still a reliable guy and when it comes to guys catching the ball, we need more with his traits and work ethic.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Wait, are you saying that Campo was "the next Landry" and we missed it?

Jerry recognizes it now and thats why he's giving Red the chance to build something special for the long term . . . .

 

[The Quest for Six]

Dave Campo gets a bad rap IMO, he wasn't a great coach but he didn't have a lot to work with as a roster, an aging team, one third of the cap was dead money of players no longer on the roster. Pretty hard to win with the model Jerry gave him...

 

[khiladi]

Those are things Red seems to be allergic too

It's getting irritating hearing this notion that Jason learned from one of the best OCs in the game. Jason spent one year under him, sitting behind Kosar, most likely because his father made a call to Jerry and asked that his Arena league son come on over.

If one wants to talk about Dallas an who he learned Coryell under, it most accurately would be Ernie Zampese, who was at the tail-end of his career. Jason was more a part of the organization on the down-slide, trying to patch holes.

 

[visionary]

Coaching Career B...Prior to HC

Jason Garrett-Jones
2005–2006 Miami Dolphins (QB)
2007 Dallas Cowboys (OC)
2008–2010 Dallas Cowboys (Asst. HC/OC)


FIFY

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