Garrett's 2 point conversion playcall

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Anyone else think it was terrible?

A great creator at the QB position and you limit him to one option by calling a fade to a WR with the dropsies?
 

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Catch-22;1695409 said:
Anyone else think it was terrible?

A great creator at the QB position and you limit him to one option by calling a fade to a WR with the dropsies?


The Fade works more often than not. That is why most teams use the fade on 2 pt conversions. You either get it or you have a very good chance of interference.

WHICH WE HAD ON THAT ONE TO OWENS

The Zebra refused to put his glasses on prior to the play tho.

We lose the 2pt conversion.
 

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don't agree with the call, but as it turned out it was about the best call we could have made. Romo had no time at all to wait on another type of route. As soon as he got the snap he had a blitzer right on him.
 

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Dallas;1695420 said:
The Fade works more often than not. That is why most teams use the fade on 2 pt conversions. You either get it or you have a very good chance of interference.

WHICH WE HAD ON THAT ONE TO OWENS

The Zebra refused to put his glasses on prior to the play tho.

We lose the 2pt conversion.

What's almost as bad as the no call, is the no comment from the BSPN idiots.....Not even a suggestion it might have been interference
 

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The playcall wasn't bad.

I think taking advantage of Fasano in those situations wouldn't be the worst idea ever though.
 

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links18;1695439 said:
What's almost as bad as the no call, is the no comment from the BSPN idiots.....Not even a suggestion it might have been interference


I muted my tv halfway through the 4th quarter... couldn't listen to it anymore.
 

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Catch-22;1695409 said:
Anyone else think it was terrible?

A great creator at the QB position and you limit him to one option by calling a fade to a WR with the dropsies?


I can't stand the call. The fade requires too much touch for my liking to go along with a good catch. Unless your P.Manning & Wayne/Harrison, I don't like the call.
 

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Looked like pass int to me...the defender had his back to the ball..never even looked for it.

I was 17 rows away from the play.
 

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Catch-22;1695409 said:
Anyone else think it was terrible?

A great creator at the QB position and you limit him to one option by calling a fade to a WR with the dropsies?
That wasn't his only option. Witten was running an underneath route on the play as well. Unfortunately the rush came too quickly, leaving Tony only able to throw it up there and hope for the best.
 

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Catch-22;1695409 said:
Anyone else think it was terrible?

A great creator at the QB position and you limit him to one option by calling a fade to a WR with the dropsies?

The call was brilliant. TO is the most physical receiver in the NFL and covering him one on one on a fade route is very hard to do. The defender played perfect defense on that. I'll take my chances with TO one on one with a jump ball in the end zone 9/10 times.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1695448 said:
The playcall wasn't bad.

I think taking advantage of Fasano in those situations wouldn't be the worst idea ever though.

Fasano??

Personally, when I'm down to one play like that (a two-point conversion, fourth-and-goal or whatever), I want the QB to have as many options as possible. I'd rather roll him out one way or the other (giving him a possible scramble) and have at least two receivers from which he can choose.

Still, Owens vs. Greer 1-on-1 isn't a bad option. Had it not been a crucial play, I think they throw the interference flag. He had his arms on Owens and wasn't looking for the ball. That should be interference. But I didn't expect to get the call.
 

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That was pass interference, IMO. The defender never even looked for the ball. He had his hands all over TO before the ball arrived. There was no attempt from the defender to even make a play on the ball when the ball was in the air.
 

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Catch-22;1695409 said:
Anyone else think it was terrible?

A great creator at the QB position and you limit him to one option by calling a fade to a WR with the dropsies?
I hate the fade route. The only time I have ever thought it was a great call was when Cris Carter was the target. The guy could just flat out run that route.
 

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Roughneck;1695458 said:
That wasn't his only option. Witten was running an underneath route on the play as well. Unfortunately the rush came too quickly, leaving Tony only able to throw it up there and hope for the best.

I don't buy this. Tony snapped it, took maybe two steps back (was probably more like one) and released. He didn't look at his other receivers or the pass rush, which wasn't getting home all night. He had other options, but the call was to TO and TO only.

If he'd gotten the ball up a little bit, Owens either would have made the catch or the CB would have blatantly had PI.
 

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I told my buddy i'd run a roll out to give Tony options. He can pass or run it if it opens up. I don't think the fade is a bad call, but i get the feeling they are purposely going to TO just to keep the guy from pouting. I'd think Witten or Crayton would have been options with the roll out, but with the fade it's do or die. I like more than one do or die option when the game is on the line.
 

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AdamJT13;1695463 said:
Fasano??

Personally, when I'm down to one play like that (a two-point conversion, fourth-and-goal or whatever), I want the QB to have as many options as possible. I'd rather roll him out one way or the other (giving him a possible scramble) and have at least two receivers from which he can choose.

Still, Owens vs. Greer 1-on-1 isn't a bad option. Had it not been a crucial play, I think they throw the interference flag. He had his arms on Owens and wasn't looking for the ball. That should be interference. But I didn't expect to get the call.


So you dont consider Fasano another option ?
Aside from Witten, Owens, Crayton, and Barber/Jones ?

Like I stated before the playcall wasnt bad.
 

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SkinsandTerps;1695516 said:
So you dont consider Fasano another option ?
Aside from Witten, Owens, Crayton, and Barber/Jones ?

Like I stated before the playcall wasnt bad.
This is true. The only reason Romo threw the immediate fade was the pressure.
 

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theogt;1695520 said:
This is true. The only reason Romo threw the immediate fade was the pressure.


That's why i like the roll out on the 2pt. Gives options an eliminates SOME pressure. With Romo's running ability, just a small crack and he can run it in.
 

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AdamJT13;1695463 said:
Still, Owens vs. Greer 1-on-1 isn't a bad option. Had it not been a crucial play, I think they throw the interference flag. He had his arms on Owens and wasn't looking for the ball. That should be interference. But I didn't expect to get the call.

This makes no sense at all. He never looked back and was all over Owens. Thats textbook PI call. It should have been called.
 
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