GB is a heavy Zone/Shell team on Defense
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perrykemp
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Joe Barry runs an extreme example of a bend but don't break defense. The Packers D only gave up 1 more TD (36) than the Cowboys defense (35). The difference is they gave up a ton more Field Goals. The Packers allow you offense to move easily between the 20's, however, they do tighten up in the red zone.
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The dak struggles against teh zone narrative is dumb and has been debunked over and over again.
Aven8
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I did love that swing to Dowdle that we ran back to back last week. Where has that been?!
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You can demoralize defenses with successful deep shots early in the game. The longer they don't break, the more confident they become.
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WE've seen Dak shred up zone defenses throughout his career I'm not sure where this is coming from is it because of Vic Fangio?
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Might be one of those games we have to rely on Aubrey's leg. Important to come away with points especially if our defense does their job.
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Dak and the offense will shred Green Bay. They just don't have the corners to cover Ceedee. Just keep feeding it to Ceedee and this game will be out of reach. Don't need to get fancy.
Their D is as bad as the Eagles. Heck Carolina put up 30 on them.
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I think you're holding onto a two year old narrative with this. Dak has lit this defense up for the most part this season. Especially after the 49er game. At this point I really don't think it much matters what the defense does, if Dak recognizes it he's going to beat it. The only chance any defense has is to disguise their coverage well enough that they make Dak uncertain about his reads. If they come out and just sit in one coverage all game long Dak will have 400 yards and 5 TDs at the end of the game. That's why the pre-snap motion has been so important. It forces the defense to show at least the concept of their coverage and once that's done it's on and poppin. The Packers defense is not as good as the Lions. And remember if not for CeeDee's bobble Dak should have had 3 TD passes against them. The Packers are also a bottom five run defense and that might be the reason their pass defense is ranked higher than it really should be. Teams have lined up and rammed it down their throats. They gave up 2181 yards on the ground at a 4.4 ypc clip. Compare that to the Cowboys and their allegedly horrible run defense which gave up 1910 yards at a 4.2 clip.
Oh and of course the other way to slow Dak down is consistent pressure by beating our o-line. But even that hasn't stopped Dak in most games. Dak was sacked at least 4 times in 4 games this season. The Cowboys went 3-1 in those games and Dak's WORST passer rating of the four was 107.9. In other words, he doesn't crumble under pressure. As long as the receivers get him a sliver of daylight he can fit the ball in there, even when under heavy pressure.
The bottom line is the notion that this cover 2 shell is still some kind of kryptonite for Dak and the Dallas offense has been disproven time and again. A great pass rush, lockdown corners and a DC who disguises well can slow down any passing offense. Ours included. I'm just not sure the Packers have any of that.
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If that's their tendency, Dallas has to be able to run the ball for 4-6 yards and not stuffed for 1-2.
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There are plenty of holes in the GB secondary. They spot WRs and TEs both over a 100 rating on the year.
The danger for Dallas is 3 fold:
1. Turnovers. We cannot give away possessions. Play smart and clean.
2. Penalties. Can we play disciplined and fundamentally sound football? We don’t want to abort drives through self inflicted mistakes.
3. Lots of pressure on Jordan Love. The kid is playing out of his mind right now. GB has given up the 3rd fewest sacks on the year. Gotta make him uncomfortable
4. Tackling. Jones can hurt us. Fill the gaps, know your assignments, pursue through the whistle, wrap up and get all ball carriers on the ground
The danger for Dallas is 3 fold:
1. Turnovers. We cannot give away possessions. Play smart and clean.
2. Penalties. Can we play disciplined and fundamentally sound football? We don’t want to abort drives through self inflicted mistakes.
3. Lots of pressure on Jordan Love. The kid is playing out of his mind right now. GB has given up the 3rd fewest sacks on the year. Gotta make him uncomfortable
4. Tackling. Jones can hurt us. Fill the gaps, know your assignments, pursue through the whistle, wrap up and get all ball carriers on the ground
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Spot on!
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Many teams have adopted some version of this scheme as it's designed to take away the big passing plays. The ways to beat it:
-Successfully run the football against the light box
-attack the edges, rather then the middle
-take what is given
-play ahead of the scoreboard and they will have to adjust.
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I was doing to say, he had a pretty good year for someone who can't play against the zone according to this board.
Green Bay is a mediocre team all around. Dallas is better at almost every spot.