General consensus on Rob Ryan

[GimmeTheBall!]

Rob Ryan, on one hand, is a loud-mouthed, uncouth, overhyped (by his family) coach.

On the other hand, he's had little to work with. And he's had little time to establish himself in Dallas.

This year will be telling as to whether he is a capable coach or just an underachiever.

 

[benson]

We need to do a better job of disguising the blitz, being unpredictable with the blitz.

Last year, if it was a 3rd down, no matter what distance, it was a 5-6 man blitz. Without fail.

For the most part, we need to be disruptive with a 4 man rush. The 3 lineman (which includes Ratliff) and Ware should be enough to consistantly disrupt the pocket. If not, something has to change.

 

[Rogerthat12]

So what do you guys think?

I am not a big fan of his loud mouth and I think he was exposed late in the year. His own hype about all the "talent" he had on the field bit him in the *** a bit.

I think he is a decent defensive coordinator who was overhyped coming in. Carr should help, but really, we have a lot of problems on the defense.

What say you?

Rob has swagger which is a good thing and yes he is arrogant like a Ryan.

I think with essentially no off season last year it certainly made things worse especially in relationship to the problematics and deficiencies in the secondary.

The lack of pass rush outside of Ware combined with the pedestrian efforts of Spencer and the decline of the entire secondary was simply too much for any D coordinator to overcome.

I do think with an entire off season, defensive additions from FA and the draft that Rob should have a significantly better defensive performance from his squad.

He can chirp all he wants if he is stifling the elite with his squad, if not then Jason may need to look for someone else.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I think he's very innovative but I don't think he's a genius and I think his innovation may prevent him from being a top-4 D-Coordinator because sometimes you just have to go with the plays that the defense can consistently run the best instead of hoping to out-scheme everybody. I do think when he gets 'his players', he's really great. Which is a good sign of a guy who has an eye for talent.

I think his strength is at getting DB's as he has an eye for talent and who fits well into his scheme. Wade was more of a guru at finding NT's and OLB's.

The brash attitude doesn't bother me. Good defenses tend to be brash. The Ravens and Steelers' defense have never been solemn and quiet. I think it helps bring intensity on game day, which is a good thing. I just think it's only bad when it's done in poor taste/sportsmanship or the players are more worried about talking than actually performing on the field.







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[jayhouston12]

i think he's a top tier defensive coordinator but two things hurt him last year

1. lockout, that system he runs is not a system your going to get down pat without an offseason and regular practices

2. you need upgrades at positions our secondary was pathetic our linebackers as a whole i think are awesome (spencer needs to show hes worth his stay tho) the defensive line is nothing short of average i'm not a fan of hatcher or coleman

 

[Beast_from_East]

Well, given that Jerry has unlimited resources to hire the best coaching staff in the NFL, I' would have hoped that Rob and Jason would have performed a little better than they did last year. But they should be given some time to instill their respective programs and prove their worth. Rob inherited mostly garbage, Jason, not so much.

Rob gets a little more leeway because, like you said, he inherited mostly garbage players. The defense did improve by allowing 100 less points, but there were times when the defesne was just lost and WRs were just running wide open. We also blew multiple games where we had the lead in the 4th quarter and choked like a dog, see Giants game.


As for Garrett, he inherited a team that won 2 division titles and a playoff game under his predecessor and so far is a .500 coach and pissed away 3 games with coaching blunders last year. I am not a fan of "learning on the job" when it comes to coaching.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I think he inherited the same players who finished 31st in points allowed under Wade the previous year. I also think Wade proved in Houston that he wasn't the problem.

Anyone who though Ryan was going to turn around proven mediocrity like Anthony Spencer and Marcus Spears into world beaters through some X's and O's magic must have been drinking the Kool Aid by the gallon last offseason.

 

[DBOY3141]

Rob gets a little more leeway because, like you said, he inherited mostly garbage players. The defense did improve by allowing 100 less points, but there were times when the defesne was just lost and WRs were just running wide open. We also blew multiple games where we had the lead in the 4th quarter and choked like a dog, see Giants game.


As for Garrett, he inherited a team that won 2 division titles and a playoff game under his predecessor and so far is a .500 coach and pissed away 3 games with coaching blunders last year. I am not a fan of "learning on the job" when it comes to coaching.

Every coach learns on the job.

What was Belicheck's record in Cleveland?
What was Landry's record his first 6 years in Dallas?
What was Noll's record in the beginnng?

Sometimes you have a Harbaugh that does great his first year, but those are rare exceptions.

Bottom line with this team. We have way to many trash players who are starting or playing significant time.

 

[JackWagon]

I think these questions stop this year. I believe he will put together a top 10 Defense maybe even a top 5. And if that happens (top 5) we could REALLY be good this year.

 

[Doomsday]

I really like his aggressive play calling, he has the mentality that he is going to try to dictate to an offense instead of waiting and reacting. I look forward to seeing what he can do with better secondary play.

 

[boyzjunkie]

Hostile
Are those your little cowdudes? They are sooo cute!

 

[Hostile]

Hostile
Are those your little cowdudes? They are sooo cute!

No, just an image I liked.

 

[SquiggDoggs]

So what do you guys think?

I am not a big fan of his loud mouth and I think he was exposed late in the year. His own hype about all the "talent" he had on the field bit him in the *** a bit.

I think he is a decent defensive coordinator who was overhyped coming in. Carr should help, but really, we have a lot of problems on the defense.

What say you?

I think he is extremely overweight and overrated!...I think anyone with a brain could do his job better.

 

[gmoney112]

As for Garrett, he inherited a team that was 1-7 and just suffered one of the worst losses in franchise history under his predecessor and so far is a .542 coach whose kicker and secondary pissed away 3 games last year. I am not a fan of "learning the game", i much prefer to blame everything on the head coach, it's easy for me because i am about as intelligent as Morris Claiborne..

FTFY guy.

 

[gimmesix]

So what do you guys think?

I am not a big fan of his loud mouth and I think he was exposed late in the year. His own hype about all the "talent" he had on the field bit him in the *** a bit.

I think he is a decent defensive coordinator who was overhyped coming in. Carr should help, but really, we have a lot of problems on the defense.

What say you?

Not sold on him. I don't think he's been consistently successful in the role wherever he's been. The problem with judging that, of course, is you have to look at the situations he's been in. ... So I'm willing to reserve judgment.

I do think he has to get some credit for the stars shining, with the seasons Ware and Lee had, but also some blame for the defense's failures. ... And I can't fully excuse that for the lack of an offseason because other teams had success under similar conditions.

Year 2 should give us a lot better understanding of what he can do, though, especially with Dallas trying to shore up the weak spot and take any handcuffs off.

 

[fairviewfarmer]

I think he's an overhyped coach who got his foot into the door of NFL coaching simply due to nepotism. I would rather have Mike Zimmer. That should tell you how bad I think Ryan is.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I would rather have Mike Zimmer.

Just the thought of that gives me the hives.

 

[Hoofbite]

I think he did a pretty good job.

He took the same group of scrubs Wade embarrassed himself with and got some good games out of them.

In the end, the secondary just sunk the team down the road.

No amount of coaching can give a guy like Newman his legs back.

Dallas needs a few more players on defense before anyone can say he's got a good amount of talent to work with.

Hopefully Dallas can get a solid CB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds and some DL help as well.

I wouldn't expect a good meal to come from a cupboard full of Ramen Noodles.

 

[Blue Eyed Devil]

He added Kenyon Coleman and Abe Elam, were those good additions? I don't think so.

He promised to bring pressure from everywhere with his crazy formations the secondary actually produced more sacks in 2010 under Wade than in 2011 under Ryan. There were zero sacks from any of our inside linebackers. The results were that bad 2010 Wade was better at getting pressure from every position than Rob Ryan was. So what's the use of all his crazy formations and motion when, at the end of the day, it doesn't work! Is it all just theater? If you look at the sack totals they looked exactly like a Wade Phillips' defense - when Ware gets his the defense is good, when Ware doesn't get his no one else does.

This defense got played like a fiddle by the Eagles, collapsed late in games when the offense had given the team a lead, and had one of the worst secondaries in the league.

I would say that if not for DeMarcus Ware having one of his great 20-sack campaigns, last year's defense would have been epically bad.

 

[ShiningStar]

He added Kenyon Coleman and Abe Elam, were those good additions? I don't think so.

He promised to bring pressure from everywhere with his crazy formations the secondary actually produced more sacks in 2010 under Wade than in 2011 under Ryan. There were zero sacks from any of our inside linebackers. The results were that bad 2010 Wade was better at getting pressure from every position than Rob Ryan was. So what's the use of all his crazy formations and motion when, at the end of the day, it doesn't work! Is it all just theater? If you look at the sack totals they looked exactly like a Wade Phillips' defense - when Ware gets his the defense is good, when Ware doesn't get his no one else does.

This defense got played like a fiddle by the Eagles, collapsed late in games when the offense had given the team a lead, and had one of the worst secondaries in the league.

I would say that if not for DeMarcus Ware having one of his great 20-sack campaigns, last year's defense would have been epically bad.

were they great additions, no, is hindsight perfect, yes, was there better out there for the value, doubtful, did i like them, no am I the coach who knows better, no.

He lost the offseason and had some guys on the team that just didnt deserve to be there anymore, now hes got one of his guys and we added a gun and still have the draft to do, im all for him getting a fair shot at this.