Germanwings (Lufthansa) plane crash in French Alps

MichaelWinicki

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Sorry to hear about this.

Terrible tragedy. All the kids.

It says in the report the plane lost altitude for a period of 8 minutes.

We'll hear what info comes from the black box.
 

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Sorry to hear about this.

Terrible tragedy. All the kids.

It says in the report the plane lost altitude for a period of 8 minutes.

We'll hear what info comes from the black box.

Yeah. Wow..

Hate to see these crashes.

I am guessing:

A. They struggled for 8 minutes trying to maintain flight
B. Lost pressure and passed out. Slow decline and crash
C. Hope not the standard suicide pilot theory.
 

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Strange turn of events. One pilot was locked out of the cockpit and the other inside never responded to him. There was either: Foul play or the pilot inside the cockpit died somehow. But, here is the kicker.......the auto-pilot was turned off.
 

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If they lost cabin pressure at that altitude it would not have taken them long to go unconscious. 30 secs or less. I wonder why they were so quick to rule out the "T" word.
 

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Crazy news the co-pilot crashed it on purpose when the pilot left the cockpit for a bathroom break. Saw on news it was from flight recorder.
 

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Man... I threw in C.)

I didn't really believe it then. Just listed it for needing a third choice.

This is horrible.
 

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Wow the conspiracy guys are going to love this. Motive is going to be debated forever since the French say that so far they have none.
 

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I'm getting to the point of being afraid to fly, especially overseas :(

If it isn't terrorism, it is foul play, pilot error and plane malfunction. This is what......4 major crashes in a little over a year now?

I know it is still safer than a car but you don't live through a plane crash!

Those poor people, what a way to go, watching yourselves go into a mountain........
 

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Wow the conspiracy guys are going to love this. Motive is going to be debated forever since the French say that so far they have none.
What's the conspiracy?

The guy killed himself and 150 other people. There isn't much mystery.
 

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I'm getting to the point of being afraid to fly, especially overseas :(

If it isn't terrorism, it is foul play, pilot error and plane malfunction. This is what......4 major crashes in a little over a year now?

I know it is still safer than a car but you don't live through a plane crash!

Those poor people, what a way to go, watching yourselves go into a mountain........

Computer: "pilot are you descending unnecessarily?"
Pilot: ~ no response~

Computer: "imminent danger, mountain obstruction, ascend the aircraft"
Pilot: ~ no response~

Computer: " I will be forced to assume control of aircraft if you do not comply"
Pilot: ~ no response~

Computer takes control of aircraft. Elevates to cruising altitude. Door opens.
Protocol has pilot tase co pilot.

I can't wait for this.
 

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They say the black box recorder has the pilot in the cockpit alive and well, and very much in control of the plane during the decent, and very calm about it. This was a murder-suicide. It was planned out.

This completely changes protocol with every airline around the world.
 

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Alone at controls, co-pilot sought to 'destroy' the plane

By LORI HINNANT and DAVE McHUGH13 minutes ago


Co-pilot Andreas Lubitz's "intention (was) to destroy this plane," Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin said, laying out the horrifying conclusions reached by French aviation investigators after listening to the last minutes of Tuesday's Flight 9525.

Robin said the pilot, who has not been identified, left the cockpit, presumably to go to the lavatory, and then was unable to regain access. In the meantime, Lubitz, a 28-year-old German, manually set the plane on the descent that drove it into the mountain.

Robin said the commander of the plane knocked several times "without response." He said the door could only be blocked manually.

"The most plausible, the most probably, is that the co-pilot voluntarily refused to open the door of the cockpit for the captain and pressed the button for the descent," Robin said.

He said the co-pilot's responses, initially courteous in the first part of the trip, became "curt" when the captain began the mid-flight briefing on the planned landing.


More: http://news.yahoo.com/official-1-pilot-locked-crash-plane-cockpit-072049706.html?clear-cache
 

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I'm getting to the point of being afraid to fly, especially overseas :(

If it isn't terrorism, it is foul play, pilot error and plane malfunction. This is what......4 major crashes in a little over a year now?

I know it is still safer than a car but you don't live through a plane crash!

Those poor people, what a way to go, watching yourselves go into a mountain........

Living through that for approximately 8 minutes? That's tortuous.
 

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Imagine how the passengers on the planes that were crashed on 9/11 felt.
Why didn't this guy just kill himself if he was unhappy? Why take so many innocent lives with you?

This wack-job killed more people than the shooters at Columbine, Sandy Hook and VA Tech combined.
 

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They say the black box recorder has the pilot in the cockpit alive and well, and very much in control of the plane during the decent, and very calm about it. This was a murder-suicide. It was planned out.

This completely changes protocol with every airline around the world.

Protocol in the U.S. already calls for always having two people in the cockpit. From the article yahoo article WoodsyGirl posted:
Airlines in Europe are not required to have two people in the cockpit at all times, unlike the standard U.S. operating procedure, which was changed after the 9/11 attacks to require a flight attendant to take the spot of a briefly departing pilot.

Surprised this was not the case everywhere. It will be now.

BBQ
 

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Imagine how the passengers on the planes that were crashed on 9/11 felt.
Why didn't this guy just kill himself if he was unhappy? Why take so many innocent lives with you?

This wack-job killed more people than the shooters at Columbine, Sandy Hook and VA Tech combined.

guess we'll have to ban airplanes.
 
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