Getting Roy some help

[StillNothinNice]

Love him or hate him.. he is our safety. He was a great safety, and I think he can definitely still be one. Roy was never a cover guy, and I don’t think he has to be a great one. He needs his confidence back. He needs a fast corner to help him out. Someone who can force the QB to hang the ball up a little longer, and allow Roy to smack that crap out of them like he used to.

Who that fast corner is? I don’t know. Maybe not even a corner.. I’m no madden expert but he needs some help somewhere. Roy needs someone who can take some pressure off of him, and allow him to get his instincts back and play with confidence.

I think the coaching change ups are going to help. Personally I think R. Williams needs to be hooked up with a good sports psychologist right now.

Again say what you want, but hes our guy. He isn’t getting traded or cut anytime soon. You’re foolish if you believe he doesn’t have the physical abilities anymore. Hes one of our big investments.. why not help the guy out? Well not us, but the team.

I predict hes gonna have a great season for us next year. At least I’m pulling for him.

 

[Jaxonsdaddd]

Love him or hate him.. he is our safety. He was a great safety, and I think he can definitely still be one. Roy was never a cover guy, and I don’t think he has to be a great one. He needs his confidence back. He needs a fast corner to help him out. Someone who can force the QB to hang the ball up a little longer, and allow Roy to smack that crap out of them like he used to.

Who that fast corner is? I don’t know. Maybe not even a corner.. I’m no madden expert but he needs some help somewhere. Roy needs someone who can take some pressure off of him, and allow him to get his instincts back and play with confidence.

I think the coaching change ups are going to help. Personally I think R. Williams needs to be hooked up with a good sports psychologist right now.

Again say what you want, but hes our guy. He isn’t getting traded or cut anytime soon. You’re foolish if you believe he doesn’t have the physical abilities anymore. Hes one of our big investments.. why not help the guy out? Well not us, but the team.

I predict hes gonna have a great season for us next year. At least I’m pulling for him.

Did I just read that your no "Madden" expert, therefore your not sure what would help Roy WIlliams?

 

[Vertigo_17]

He had some help last year with the addition of Hamlin who took the pressure off Roy by becoming the the caption of the secondary.

I agree though that he's going to be here next year, so we better make the most of it. I hope that Campo will be able to motivate him and get his head back into the game.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Roy Williams' biggest problems was that our LBers sucked at coverage especially our nickel LB. They would consistently release backs and TEs early and left our safeties hung out to dry.

Zach Thomas fixes that. that being said hes only here for a year or two and unless Carp can stay on the field or Burnett learns how to cover then we need to get some long term solutions here.

 

[khiladi]

Roy Williams' biggest problems was that our LBers sucked at coverage especially our nickel LB. They would consistently release backs and TEs early and left our safeties hung out to dry.

Zach Thomas fixes that. that being said hes only here for a year or two and unless Carp can stay on the field or Burnett learns how to cover then we need to get some long term solutions here.

Didn't Roy play LB in the nickel and wasn't Roy also responsible for handing players off the Jacques Reeves during certain situations?

 

[junk]

First it was a FS to play center field to free Roy up to "do his thing". Then there was moving him closer to the LOS because that was where he was most effective.

Well, he had a Pro Bowl FS next to him this year and the team made defensive tweaks to get him closer to the LOS. End result: Probably his worst season as a pro.

If a guy's a superstar, he should be making those around him better (like what DeMarcus Ware did for Greg Ellis).

If he's just another guy, he needs others around him to make him better.

 

[Stash]

First it was a FS to play center field to free Roy up to "do his thing". Then there was moving him closer to the LOS because that was where he was most effective.

Well, he had a Pro Bowl FS next to him this year and the team made defensive tweaks to get him closer to the LOS. End result: Probably his worst season as a pro.

If a guy's a superstar, he should be making those around him better (like what DeMarcus Ware did for Greg Ellis).

If he's just another guy, he needs others around him to make him better.

Excuses are over with.

It's not on anyone but Roy Williams to make Roy Williams better.

If he doesn't, I think it's his last year in a Cowboys uniform.

And his last year of making the big bucks too.

 

[cowboyrock]

Roy sucks eggs. no one can make this guy better. he is what he is. the guy flatout stinks.

 

[junk]

Roy sucks eggs. no one can make this guy better. he is what he is. the guy flatout stinks.

He was a pretty good player at one point early in his career. I'm still not sure what happened exactly. However, as each year passes, I have less and less hope that he'll ever get back to what he once was.

 

[cowboyrock]

He was a pretty good player at one point early in his career. I'm still not sure what happened exactly. However, as each year passes, I have less and less hope that he'll ever get back to what he once was.

Ni my book he never was that good. but this guy has gotten worse and worse. he may be the worse starting SS in the NFL. No tackles for losses this season speaks for itself. the guy cant play anymore folks. he's flatout terrible. retired cowboy Darren Woodson, showed us all how SS should be played. he was one great player.

 

[the kid 05]

First it was a FS to play center field to free Roy up to "do his thing". Then there was moving him closer to the LOS because that was where he was most effective.

Well, he had a Pro Bowl FS next to him this year and the team made defensive tweaks to get him closer to the LOS. End result: Probably his worst season as a pro.

If a guy's a superstar, he should be making those around him better (like what DeMarcus Ware did for Greg Ellis).

If he's just another guy, he needs others around him to make him better.

you mean like how Woody did to the said roy williams?

 

[Chief]

First it was a FS to play center field to free Roy up to "do his thing". Then there was moving him closer to the LOS because that was where he was most effective.

Well, he had a Pro Bowl FS next to him this year and the team made defensive tweaks to get him closer to the LOS. End result: Probably his worst season as a pro.

If a guy's a superstar, he should be making those around him better (like what DeMarcus Ware did for Greg Ellis).

If he's just another guy, he needs others around him to make him better.

That's the sad truth.

 

[Little Jr]

Didn't Roy play LB in the nickel and wasn't Roy also responsible for handing players off the Jacques Reeves during certain situations?

Thats what I thought.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Love him or hate him.. he is our safety. He was a great safety, and I think he can definitely still be one. Roy was never a cover guy, and I don’t think he has to be a great one. He needs his confidence back. He needs a fast corner to help him out. Someone who can force the QB to hang the ball up a little longer, and allow Roy to smack that crap out of them like he used to.

Who that fast corner is? I don’t know. Maybe not even a corner.. I’m no madden expert but he needs some help somewhere. Roy needs someone who can take some pressure off of him, and allow him to get his instincts back and play with confidence.

I think the coaching change ups are going to help. Personally I think R. Williams needs to be hooked up with a good sports psychologist right now.

Again say what you want, but hes our guy. He isn’t getting traded or cut anytime soon. You’re foolish if you believe he doesn’t have the physical abilities anymore. Hes one of our big investments.. why not help the guy out? Well not us, but the team.

I predict hes gonna have a great season for us next year. At least I’m pulling for him.

He was never great.... Great safety's can cover.

 

[Future]

The guy has no fire or passion for the game. IF/until he find thats we aren't going to get anything more out of him.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Didn't Roy play LB in the nickel and wasn't Roy also responsible for handing players off the Jacques Reeves during certain situations?

Actually thats very true. i suppose thats why they started taking him out during nickel situations.

As to passing off to Reeves i dont recall that. I suppose in a cover 3/4 he may have been asked to do that.

One can only hope that he lives in the film room and campo can get him to back where he was when he first coached him.

 

[BouncingCheese]

WHY does everything have to revolve around the team getting HIM help? I think that this past season was his chance to prove that he wasnt so overrated as people were pegging him to be. He lost alot of weight and got faster. Even with that, and a new system designed to promote his strengths and hide his weaknesses, he still underperformed.

IMHO, ken hamlin seems like a better fit for the strong safety spot; he can hit hard and has at least SOME coverage skills. AND he has leadership skills that he demonstrated in his time in Seattle.

I hope the Cowboys decide not to go after Mcfadden and keep our two picks in the first and look at a safety or CB and a WR. This defense takes alot of chances the way it is set up, and the cornerbacks AND safety's need to cover .

 

[AdamJT13]

i suppose thats why they started taking him out during nickel situations.

Roy was almost always on the field in nickel situations. The majority of the plays he missed were when we were in a 3-4 defense with three cornerbacks and one safety. There were only a handful of nickel plays all season when Roy wasn't in the game.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Dallas should draft 2DB's in the First round and a safety later on. Give Roy a chance in the Preseason to shine. If the coaching staff feel like he's a liability
they should show some cohones and cut him or bench him. Move Hamlin to SS and Henry to FS. Bite the Bullet and start your best corner next to Newman . Who ever that might be a rookie, Allan Ball, Courtney Brown, Quincy Butler or a Free agent thats not on the team yet..

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Roy was almost always on the field in nickel situations. The majority of the plays he missed were when we were in a 3-4 defense with three cornerbacks and one safety. There were only a handful of nickel plays all season when Roy wasn't in the game.

Cool man. Do you have his metrics in terms of QB rating against and whatnot handy?

Actually, i hate to be a bother but i was curious if you had that for our ILBs too. You're pretty much the only person I know that has access to those stats and i think it would bring quite a bit to the discussion and cut through a lot of the conjecture.