Giants coaches made the difference; Cowboys 2007 coaching staff was inferior

GimmeTheBall!

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The Giants played superbly, thanks to their coaches.

Those coaches did was Wade and his crew couldn't do: motivate and adjust when the offense sputtered down the line and into the playoffs.

And if the Cowboys had wandered into the Super Bow, as good as their personnel are, with Wade and his bunch, I don't think it would have been a win.

Why? Again, no fiery, game-adjusting leadership

The Patriots' vulnerabilities tonight were real; the fire-breathing, swaggering Giants, with their superb coaches, just came coming like wild horses tonight.

The Cowboys will face a lot of work with this Giants crew that no believes in its inflated self. They do a lot with limited resources. But they are MOTIVATED.

I cannot wait for the Garrett-Capers era to begin in earnest.

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coaching was pretty weak, but how good of coaching do we need to get our players to take proper angles and tackle?
 

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GimmeTheBall!;1940854 said:
The Giants played superbly, thanks to their coaches.

Those coaches did was Wade and his crew couldn't do: motivate and adjust when the offense sputtered down the line and into the playoffs.

And if the Cowboys had wandered into the Super Bow, as good as their personnel are, with Wade and his bunch, I don't think it would have been a win.

Why? Again, no fiery, game-adjusting leadership

The Patriots' vulnerabilities tonight were real; the fire-breathing, swaggering Giants, with their superb coaches, just came coming like wild horses tonight.

The Cowboys will face a lot of work with this Giants crew that no believes in its inflated self. They do a lot with limited resources. But they are MOTIVATED.

I cannot wait for the Garrett-Capers era to begin in earnest.

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Good post
 

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Bob Sacamano;1940861 said:
coaching was pretty weak, but how good of coaching do we need to get our players to take proper angles and tackle?
:laugh2: i can't believe you of all people just said that
 

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i'm no fan of coach cupcake and our owner-wanna-be-GM

but

the gints coaching staff has been there 3-4 years now. didn't have a qb playing his first full season. last year the same NYG coaches were almost run out of town.

but i expect next year will be no different even with a dream-team of coaches if we don't draft better players and cut non-leaders who are vastly overrated on our defense.


GimmeTheBall!;1940854 said:
The Giants played superbly, thanks to their coaches.

Those coaches did was Wade and his crew couldn't do: motivate and adjust when the offense sputtered down the line and into the playoffs.

And if the Cowboys had wandered into the Super Bow, as good as their personnel are, with Wade and his bunch, I don't think it would have been a win.

Why? Again, no fiery, game-adjusting leadership

The Patriots' vulnerabilities tonight were real; the fire-breathing, swaggering Giants, with their superb coaches, just came coming like wild horses tonight.

The Cowboys will face a lot of work with this Giants crew that no believes in its inflated self. They do a lot with limited resources. But they are MOTIVATED.

I cannot wait for the Garrett-Capers era to begin in earnest.

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GimmeTheBall!;1940854 said:
The Giants played superbly, thanks to their coaches.

Those coaches did was Wade and his crew couldn't do: motivate and adjust when the offense sputtered down the line and into the playoffs.

And if the Cowboys had wandered into the Super Bow, as good as their personnel are, with Wade and his bunch, I don't think it would have been a win.

Why? Again, no fiery, game-adjusting leadership

The Patriots' vulnerabilities tonight were real; the fire-breathing, swaggering Giants, with their superb coaches, just came coming like wild horses tonight.

The Cowboys will face a lot of work with this Giants crew that no believes in its inflated self. They do a lot with limited resources. But they are MOTIVATED.

I cannot wait for the Garrett-Capers era to begin in earnest.


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I agree!
 

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Bob Sacamano;1940861 said:
coaching was pretty weak, but how good of coaching do we need to get our players to take proper angles and tackle?
And run complete routes, catch clutch passes, and hit a wide open TO in the red zone.
 

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Defense got better as the season wore on. It was the offense and Mike Martz Jr that floundered.
 

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Coaching made the difference. Good thing the Giants stuck with Tom huh. If they had listened to their equivalent of this Original Poster, they would have dumped him after a year or two.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;1940854 said:
The Giants played superbly, thanks to their coaches.

Those coaches did was Wade and his crew couldn't do: motivate and adjust when the offense sputtered down the line and into the playoffs.

And if the Cowboys had wandered into the Super Bow, as good as their personnel are, with Wade and his bunch, I don't think it would have been a win.

Why? Again, no fiery, game-adjusting leadership

The Patriots' vulnerabilities tonight were real; the fire-breathing, swaggering Giants, with their superb coaches, just came coming like wild horses tonight.

The Cowboys will face a lot of work with this Giants crew that no believes in its inflated self. They do a lot with limited resources. But they are MOTIVATED.

I cannot wait for the Garrett-Capers era to begin in earnest.


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I could not agree more...
 

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Thehoofbite;1941111 said:
Coaching made the difference. Good thing the Giants stuck with Tom huh. If they had listened to their equivalent of this Original Poster, they would have dumped him after a year or two.

Yes, by all means. Stick with Wade for, oh, the next four years.
But could we afford to let Wade go 0-8 in the playoffs?

I do believe in sticking by coaches. Jimma Johnson comes to mind. I just knew in those terrible rebuilding years, that Jimma was the man. He knew how to terrorize, motivate and lead. The fruits of his coaches came years later.

Now, with Wade, you have a good man with a fair coaching record. But playoffs-wise, he does not seem to have it. Or know how to adjust. His shrugs and his "we're fine" comments at the end of the season got old.

Garrett would be great as HC/offensive genius. Capers would be great as a defensive coordinator. Stewart, on the other hand, got a lot of love (excuses) from his defensive players this year. But don't confuse that love with respect and being afraid of him. That is what was needed. A fire-breathing DC who WILLED his team to be the best they could be. Like the Giants.
In the end, our defense (and then our offense) came up short and coaching leadership was in absence.
 

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Sorta relevant...weren't the Giants basically just rushing 4 the whole night? I know they blitzed some, but I thought mostly it was the players. Not brilliant scheming.
 

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Of course Tom was almost run out of town, and took how many years to finally win something substantial in the play-offs?

Is this just a spur of the moment post or does it really reflect your analytical thinking skills?
 

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I agree to some extent that it was coaching and I also agree that it can't all be put on coaching. The coaches can not do anymore than I'm sure they did to teach recievers to catch balls in clutch situations or to run through their entire routes on potential game winning TD passes.

I do agree that Jason became a little to pass happy down the stretch, and that hurt, but this loss falls as much on the missed plays by Crayton (And the ones Romo couldn't make cause of horrific pressure in his face) as it does on any coaching.
 

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The greatest coaches in the history of the NFL wouldn't have won with the Miami Dolphins. Belichek was considered a scrub coach until he got Brady, Seymour and the rest of those players. It's funny how after he got all of those players he became a genius coach. Look at Jimmy Johnson. He didn't win too many games without Troy, Mike and Emmitt.

To me, the NFL is about the players. If you don't have them or enough of them, then you won't win regardless of who is on the coaching staff.
 

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The Giants also got big time contributions from their younger players down the stretch. If you want to point to something from the Cowboys...when was the last big time play from a younger player in December.
 

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Coaches can only take it so far -- gameplans are nice etc. but players have to make the plays. some of our guys simply didn't. Players have to lead themselves. Few of ours did. Players have to play every down with intensity. Some of our guys didn't.
 

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NewJCowboy;1942187 said:
The greatest coaches in the history of the NFL wouldn't have won with the Miami Dolphins. Belichek was considered a scrub coach until he got Brady, Seymour and the rest of those players. It's funny how after he got all of those players he became a genius coach. Look at Jimmy Johnson. He didn't win too many games without Troy, Mike and Emmitt.

To me, the NFL is about the players. If you don't have them or enough of them, then you won't win regardless of who is on the coaching staff.

That may be true, but you need coaches and coaching to put those players in the right schemes to maximize their talent.

The Chargers coaching staff flounder around the first part of the year, taking a dominant defense last year and making it soft with a different scheme. The Chargers coaches finally wised up and changed, but who's to say if they had stuck with what worked from last year, they wouldn't have been the team with the No. 1 seed.

Don't underestimate coaching because coaching gets teams like the 2000 NY Giants, the 1998 Falcons and the 1999 Titans into the Super Bowl and leaves teams like the 1998 Vikings sitting home for the winter.
 
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