Giants Defense Will Be Their Downfall

[Zman5]

Come on gimme a break. Nobody was saying how the "Eagles best player was hurt" when they won 3 in a row. It was all about how tough he is, and he's on a tear. Healthy or not, we shut 'em down. Period

Yeh. What's your point?

 

[Zman5]

I agree, Prior to the Dallas game McNabb put up 342,365 and 369 passing yards and 10 TD. Dallas beats the snot out of them and all of a sudden McNabb was injured. BS!!!

So Mcnabb isn't injured?
News to me.

 

[Doomsday101]

So Mcnabb isn't injured?
News to me.

He is injured but did not seem to effect him in the 3 prior games. Sorry Dallas went in a beat a Philly team that most were bragging about even many here had Dallas losing the game last week. Dallas went out and smoked Philly and now you want to cry about McNabb being hurt and Dallas has showed no improvement? Go get a clue!!!

 

[AdamJT13]

Here is a situation where stats lie. The Giants passing D has given up a ton of yards because the Giants O has gone up big on their opponents early. Their opponents were forced to throw against a D which was giving up the short passes.

The Giants will bring their A game. They swept us last year.

The Giants D can cause serious havoc against us. If we can't contain Strahan, we don't have a snowball's chance in heck.

All of this talk of "yeah but the Giants' opponents have had to throw the ball a ton to catch up" makes you wonder why the Giants' defense has only eight sacks. They have the sixth-worst sack percentage in the NFL despite knowing that their opponents were going to pass a lot.

 

[VirusX]

I think we have a shot to beat anyone in this league. But on Any Given Sunday, anyone can win. We saw that with MIA vs NE last year. Anyone can win at any time. Dont count out anyone, but Dallas has the tools to do it.

 

[Zman5]

He is injured but did not seem to effect him in the 3 prior games. Sorry Dallas went in a beat a Philly team that most were bragging about even many here had Dallas losing the game last week. Dallas went out and smoked Philly and now you want to cry about McNabb being hurt and Dallas has showed no improvement? Go get a clue!!!

What part of "we played a team with their best player injured" isn't true?

So you are saying if a team sucks for 2 weeks and plays one great game, they have improved greatly where they can beat a team with better record easily?

So using your logic, Greenbay can whip us without any problem?

It looks like it's you who need to get a clue.

 

[Doomsday101]

What part of "we played a team with their best player injured" isn't true?

So you are saying if a team sucks for 2 weeks and plays one great game, they have improved greatly where they can beat a team with better record easily?

So using your logic, Greenbay can whip us without any problem?

It looks like it's you who need to get a clue.

What I'm saying is we played a team last week with one of the top offenses in the NFL, they have had no problem moving the ball they have had no problem scoring. They faced Dallas and got kicked around by a defensive unit that is showing some improvment in their play. Keep on doubting the Boys all you want then latter we can hear you talk about eating some crow fact is we have many fans that would rather b!tch and complain with nothing good to say.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Here is a situation where stats lie. The Giants passing D has given up a ton of yards because the Giants O has gone up big on their opponents early. Their opponents were forced to throw against a D which was giving up the short passes.

But a defense doesn't necessarily have to give up yards when they have a big lead... See this game for an example.

 

[Zman5]

What I'm saying is we played a team last week with one of the top offenses in the NFL, they have had no problem moving the ball they have had no problem scoring. They faced Dallas and got kicked around by a defensive unit that is showing some improvment in their play. Keep on doubting the Boys all you want then latter we can hear you talk about eating some crow fact is we have many fans that would rather b!tch and complain with nothing good to say.

So any facts that isn't pro 'Boys is b!tching and complaining? OK.

As I said , get a clue.

 

[Doomsday101]

So any facts that isn't pro 'Boys is b!tching and complaining? OK.

As I said , get a clue.

I guess you see no improvement with the defense? Fact is when you shut down a high powered offense as Dallas did that is a big improvement even those who cover the NFL realize that. GB put up big points against a sorry team, Dallas shut down one of the top offensive teams.

 

[Zman5]

I guess you see no improvement with the defense? Fact is when you shut down a high powered offense as Dallas did that is a big improvement even those who cover the NFL realize that. GB put up big points against a sorry team, Dallas shut down one of the top offensive teams.

Have we improved after last week's game? Perhaps.
But one game isn't enough to say we can "beat the living crap out of this team at home." A stament that was made by the original creator of this thead.

 

[Jarv]

What part of "we played a team with their best player injured" isn't true?

So you are saying if a team sucks for 2 weeks and plays one great game, they have improved greatly where they can beat a team with better record easily?

So using your logic, Greenbay can whip us without any problem?

It looks like it's you who need to get a clue.

Players have injuries, goes with the game. If you were to tell me a team best player was injured, yet he was still able to pass for over 300 yards 3 games in a row, (with the "same injury")I would say that the injury is negligible.

Our top RB was injured too in this game, didn't even play the 2nd half...Last year our top receiver (Glen) was injured most of the year. Maybe we beat the Fecals in the 2nd game (last year) where we lost 13-7 with Glen in there. Same excuse as MacFlab this year. Who knows ?

Bottom line, we beat the Fecals easily and made them look bad in the process. The young and veteran players are learning to play together and gel...All in all we are an improving team.

Sorry if that bothers you, its just the way it is.

 

[Hoov]

So any facts that isn't pro 'Boys is b!tching and complaining? OK.

As I said , get a clue.

Ahh yes, now you seem to get ze picture. any complaining anout ze cowboys vill get you into mucho trouble here. Anyvon who does not support our proclamations that ze dallas team vill vin ze superbowl vill be reported to ze mods and ve vill ask that they take away your little siggy pictures und ze avatar, and very soon it vill be.....No More Cowboys Zone for you :

 

[Zman5]

Players have injuries, goes with the game. If you were to tell me a team best player was injured, yet he was still able to pass for over 300 yards 3 games in a row, (with the "same injury")I would say that the injury is negligible.

Our top RB was injured too in this game, didn't even play the 2nd half...Last year our top receiver (Glen) was injured most of the year. Maybe we beat the Fecals in the 2nd game (last year) where we lost 13-7 with Glen in there. Same excuse as MacFlab this year. Who knows ?

Bottom line, we beat the Fecals easily and made them look bad in the process. The young and veteran players are learning to play together and gel...All in all we are an improving team.

Sorry if that bothers you, its just the way it is.

Why should that bother me??? All I said was we beat a team that had their best player injured this week and that we almost got beat by the worst team in the league two weeks ago and got beat by another sorry team that was trying so hard to give the game away last week.

And that's why I don't think we can "beat the living crap" out of the Giants this week as the original poster stated.

Sorry if that bothers you but those are the facts.

 

[Zman5]

Ahh yes, now you seem to get ze picture. any complaining anout ze cowboys vill get you into mucho trouble here. Anyvon who does not support our proclamations that ze dallas team vill vin ze superbowl vill be reported to ze mods and ve vill ask that they take away your little siggy pictures und ze avatar, and very soon it vill be.....No More Cowboys Zone for you :

Isn't that the truth :bang2:

Wait... they can't handle the truth.:laugh2:

 

[DragonSoul]

Cowboy fans should no more than any other team what it is like to have holes at LB, rookies at CB, and DL that can apply no pressure. So what hides these glaring holes for the Giants? Offensive firepower maybe but I am not convinced considering their competition. Dallas brings something that they have not faced yet. A rotating DL that is applying good pressure, shutting down premier backs (Portis, LT), LB that has 3 sacks in 3 games, LB crew that has the size and speed to cover Shockey all day, three corners that can play man to man with the Giant receivers, and a SS that will be able to play in the box this week. Remember guys Roy was not covering the run last year. Our defense last year is a mirror image of their defense this year and you know what happened.

Ok i guess i will break it down.

First the giants have only given about 50 yards a game on the ground too there opponents, besides SD, which is the team you beat without gates, which in turn helped you key on LT2 for only 73 yds, right now Gates and Shockey are the 1-2 TEs in the leagues if you look at the stats, Gates has more recptions with one less game then his WR, please tell me that doesnt make a diff. Not too mention you won by 4 pts. And LT2 only had 19 touches that game, and in the endzone with 4 plays they never once gave it to LT2 there best player and Gates was not there.

You barely were able to put up pts on the skins, and blew the game by having them go deep on you, you scored one of your tds by a trick play.

You gave up 31 pts to SF are you kidding me? And you played Oak alright, but its not hard to play them when they are randy bound. If you ever watched the giants play him, we always **** him down.

You guys had everything clicking on the eagles game, great win for you guys. But you guys only played 2 winning teams. Not much of a difference between us too. I do honestly believe this will be a good test for us both, but dont forget SD is the highest scoring team with 5 weeks of play, while we only had 4 and we are barely behind by 13 total pts. We have a very potent offense if manning keeps playing the way he has. Dont forget going into dallas will only be his 12th game as a starter.

Now lets get back to the defense side of things.
We have scored on every opening drive this year. Which in turn puts teams behind us in pts pretty quick. That in turn makes teams pass attempt 46.5 times a game. Even with that average and u multiply 7 yards per attempt which is about ave. for a qb we are right around where the ave team is in giving up yds, but again other teams attempt a lot more then us.

We play close and aggresive in the begining of the game, when we get a good lead our defense starts to play a bit softer and keeps everything infront of them to make sure no big plays occurs (biggest play we have allowed was 31 yds) and too keep time going. We also have held Duce, Jackson/Faulk and the sucky arizona team too under 50 yds a game rushing, we played horrible against SD that in my opinion was a total meltdown, i prefer too take the law of averages and 3 out of 4 games we were top 1-2 teams too stop the run till the SD game, that inflated our run aver. from just over 43 yds a game too 103 yds a game. So numbers can be tricky.

Then we have the 2nd best TO ratio we are +10 and 14 turnovers overall. That again is with a bye week.

So right now we have a run stop de, which your run game doesnt seem to be up too par yet this yr, besides the eagles game.

We have one of the best TO ratios

We have the highest offensive team in the league so far

We have one of the best ST units this year, mind you Feely hasnt missed anything as of yet (knock on wood) and has actually had quite a few kneel downs on kick returns.

One thing your team is opened too is getting attacked deep. Most teams have been playing us 7-8 in the box, and tiki has still been getting his, but whats great now is, when teams have been blitzing us, we are actually making them pay now.

I just wouldnt be looking at the numbers so closely without looking at the whole picture.

Honestly i believe this will be a good game, because they always are between rivals. But if you guys think we are a cake walk, or all those numbers dont mean anything you might be in for a rude awakening.