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NGT: Is Demarcus Ware Overrated?
Vin_Cuccs : 10:56 am
http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=251539

Warning: this may be a bit of a rant. I don't want this to come across as sour milk, but I have been thinking about this for a while, and I wanted to get it off my chest. I am also a little bored at work. I will delete this if it gets a negative response.

I don’t mean to come across as an ignoramus, and this has nothing to do with the Dallas win last night, or their 5-0 record, but am I the only one who doesn’t buy all the hype around Demarcus Ware? The kid is a nice little player, but he sure gets a lot of build up for moderate production.

I must preface ths by saying I have seen a lot of Dallas Cowboys games and seen a lot of Ware, but naturally, I do not follow them as closely as the Giants, so this argument could be completely off base.

He has decent size at 6’4”, 257 pounds, but in my opinion, he seems to disappear quite often at time during games. His power is alright, but once he is engaged with a blocker, I think he has trouble getting off the block. He speed is alright, but he doesn’t use his speed to attack the QB or run down a back nearly enough. He has all these tools to be a top flight pass rusher, and the media gushes about him and what he will become, but I just do not see it.

The Dallas Defense was supposed to be an all out attack under Wade Phillips, and I have not been impressed. They don’t seem to generate a lot of pressure, and I think they aren’t very good at stopping the run. But yet they get a ton of hype and it starts with Demarcus Ware.

I know that this probably has something to do with the Cowboys being “America’s Team” and all, but all you hear is how Demarcus Ware is an absolute beast, and must be accounted for at all times, but I just don’t see it. I think Greg Ellis is the best pass rusher on the Dallas Defense.

Since Ware was drafted, we have been waiting to see this unstoppable force when rushing the passer, and I am not impressed. Sure he has 4.5 sacks this year, 11.5 sacks last year, and 8 sacks two years ago (24 total in his career), but for a kid drafted 11th overall, shouldn’t we be seeing sack numbers in the teens? Shouldn’t he be causing havoc and disturbing offenses every Sunday?

Don’t get me wrong, I am not calling him a bust, and I know he is still young, but I just don’t see it. For arguments sake, look at Shawne Merriman who was taken 12th overall in the same draft as Ware. I know some have issues with Merriman because the Chargers took him with the Giants pick in that draft, and he has been hit with a steroid suspension, and is cocky and brash, but I feel he is far superior to Ware.

I know you can’t measure productions through stats, number and measurables, but Merriman has better size (6’4”, 272 pounds), better speed, and has had more sacks (10 in 2005, 17 in 2006 with a 4 game suspension and 3 this year) every year in the league than Ware. Ware does have more career forced fumbles (9) than Merriman (7). Both players have 1 career interception. Ware has 1 career touchdown, and Merriman does not have a touchdown. Ware has more career tackles (152) and career solo tackles (125) than Merriman (140 and 108). Merriman has 14 career passes defended to Ware’s 8. Both players have stayed relatively healthy and the only games missed were the 4 games Merriman missed due to the steroid suspension. Ware is 25 and Merriman is 23 years of age.

I know Merriman gets a ton of hype as well, but I just feel that Merriman is a far superior player to Ware, and a game changer. Where as Ware gets some undeserved attention, and is not the same force or all the talk that Ware is elite, I think the NFL and NFC has some much better pass rushers than Ware, but yet Ware gets the attention.

Am I missing something here, or is anyone with me? Is Ware overrated?
 
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Gryphon;1697999 said:
NGT: Is Demarcus Ware Overrated?
Vin_Cuccs : 10:56 am

Am I missing something here, or is anyone with me? Is Ware overrated?


What is Steroid boy doing again this year? Oh ok
 

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funny.. I coulda sworn Dware scored TWO defensive touchdowns last year yet he has one career td?
 

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Ware is a beast against the run and is getting about 1 sack per game right now so yeah i agree very over-rated :lmao2:
 

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Ware has 2 career TD's.
And he is a much better overall player than Merriman. Merriman blitzed every single down last year. Ware was often 20 yards downfield. I like how he bases this stuff just on sacks. Ware also makes A LOT of plays in the run game, running guys down in the backfield and all. He is a great player.
 

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Merriman without 'roids and without Wade Phillips = 3 sacks

Ware with Wade = 4.5 sacks

I like our guy.
 

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I have no problem with what Ware's doing so far. When you think of disappear, think Ellis. Where was he last night?
 

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His analysis boiled down to Ware being overrated because Merriman has better career stats in sacks and passes defended, though Ware had better stats in every other category.

Yet Ware is leading Merriman this year in sacks and passes defended.
 

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I'd like to see the QB pressures and TFL numbers. I think Ware shows up big there as well.
I expect when Tank Johnson steps on the field Ware's sack numbers go up. With Spencer getting more impressive with each game, and Ellis back in the lineup, attention has to be shifted away from Ware.
 

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I don't understand why everything has to be compared to Merriman. Merriman juiced, this gave him a serious advantage, if it didn't, let's see Ware on the juice and see what happens.

Ware is Ware, he's great for us, and as long as we're winning and he's making makes plays (tipping ball leading to int) I have no issues with Ware.
 

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The amount of hate dallas players get is unreal...

its like as of if everybody forgot Merriman was on roids
 

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I think this guy is trying too hard...the answer is right under his nose. Last time I checked, Overated had this definition:


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A lot of people say Shockey is overrated, but I think he's a pretty good TE. He's just a jerk is all.

As far as Ware being overrated, that idiot doesn't have a leg to stand on. To begin with, who exactly is overrating Ware? He doesn't get 1/5 the coverage Merriman does, most casual football fans probably don't even know who he is.
 

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Aside from the Merriman stuff, which is bogus because Ware leads in all categories this year (and I guarantee you he isn't 272 anymore), I almost agree. I don't think he said anything outrageous; he just said he thinks Ware is kind of overrated.

Maybe I just expect too much. Ware is so physically talented, I expect him to be Superman out there.
 

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theogt;1698028 said:
His analysis boiled down to Ware being overrated because Merriman has better career stats in sacks and passes defended, though Ware had better stats in every other category.

Yet Ware is leading Merriman this year in sacks and passes defended.

Well he basically admitted that he didn't really watch Cowboys games or have any idea what he's talking about. So it's kinda hard to take him seriously.

OTOH Ware was great last night. Ware and TNew are really becoming great football players. The only thing I don't like about Ware is teams run past him but I guess you can't stop that if you're going to let him rush; somebody just has to have the responsibility to clean up behind him.
 
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