Giants inked cullen jenkins

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Little Jr;5019210 said:
Lol are you serious?

Of course not. It was a reference to posters saying every signing is good when they remember the name from years prior.

I didn't follow Jenkins in PHI last season at all. He's, what, 32, with what was supposed to have been a degenerative knee condition when he left GB (I might have the wrong, but that was my recollection). Then he played well in PHI's 2011 dream-season, and I thought he'd fallen off last year.

He'll be a rotational guy in NY, though, anyway. It looks like a reasonable signing to me given the contract.
 

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Idgit;5019219 said:
Of course not. It was a reference to posters saying every signing is good when they remember the name from years prior.

I didn't follow Jenkins in PHI last season at all. He's, what, 32, with what was supposed to have been a degenerative knee condition when he left GB (I might have the wrong, but that was my recollection). Then he played well in PHI's 2011 dream-season, and I thought he'd fallen off last year.

He'll be a rotational guy in NY, though, anyway. It looks like a reasonable signing to me given the contract.

But had the Cowboys signed him . . . . I can only imagine the reaction.

Signing a 32/33 yr old DT, not building for the future, team is too old, etc. etc.
 

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JesusQuintana;5019065 said:
I'm sorry but he played in all 32 games in the past 2 seasons, and 59 of the past 64 games. I don't know where you're getting "injured regularly."

He did put up 9.5 sacks in the past 2 seasons playing in the middle of the Eagles wide 9 scheme.

This is not a bad signing at all considering how weak they were up the middle.

9.5 sacks is not what they paid him for; granted, he's not getting anywhere near what Philly paid him, but even at this reduced salary, Philly had no interest in keeping him. He's on the downside of his career.
 

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So Wiki tells me the Eagles restructured his contract on the 21st of Feb and then cut him for days later. This sounds like a scumbag move, but I'm not sure. Does this mean they get to use the new contract and pay him more next season giving relief now, or they just pay it all now and get a little cap relief or becuase he was cut the contract is void? I swear these things are getting more complicated.
 

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Chuck 54;5019240 said:
9.5 sacks is not what they paid him for; granted, he's not getting anywhere near what Philly paid him, but even at this reduced salary, Philly had no interest in keeping him. He's on the downside of his career.

Well at this salary, we're talking about a much different deal. I'm not defending the signing, I'm just saying at the price they got him for, it is a pretty good value. You have to consider he will be a rotational guy, that plays mainly in pass situations (where he does excel). Consider this, he had 9.5 sacks over 2 years in Philly...The Giants only got 8.5 sacks over the past 3 years from Canty.
 

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Woods;5019224 said:
But had the Cowboys signed him . . . . I can only imagine the reaction.

Signing a 32/33 yr old DT, not building for the future, team is too old, etc. etc.

Not me. I'd say "The Cowboys replaced one guy on the downside of his career, Ratliff, who has had nearly zero statistical production over the past two years with two sacks with another guy on the downside of his career, Jenkins, who has managed 9.5 sacks over the past two years...

Oh yeah, the other guy (Jenkins) only costs $2.6m a year vs $7m for Ratliff."

Anybody who took the homer glasses off would take this deal in a second. Problem is, as with so many other Cowboy veteran players, a good portion of Ratliff's salary is guaranteed so the Cowboys are hamstrung in their ability to do anything.
 

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Good signing in terms of risk vs reward, but Cullen Jenkins is not what will return their defensive line to greatness.
 

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I think TC is addressing the wrong part of the defense. It's the passing game where they were getting killed last year. When Spagnuolo left is when their D started going downhill IMO.
 

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Woods;5019224 said:
But had the Cowboys signed him . . . . I can only imagine the reaction.

Signing a 32/33 yr old DT, not building for the future, team is too old, etc. etc.

Dude you're dead on point with this. The board, well, a select few on the board would've hammered JJ JG and the entire frtofc for signing such a old player. When other teams sign a player its great and wonderful, its a good signing. But, no matter what move the Boyz make there's always the worst move and th frtofc F up again. Amazing how that works. Smh!!!
 

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I don't like the signing. He's too old with no upside. Wouldn't want him here for those reasons. We've cut guys in the past like the forklift jr (clifton geathers) who are better.
 

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perrykemp;5019286 said:
Not me. I'd say "The Cowboys replaced one guy on the downside of his career, Ratliff, who has had nearly zero statistical production over the past two years with two sacks with another guy on the downside of his career, Jenkins, who has managed 9.5 sacks over the past two years...

Oh yeah, the other guy (Jenkins) only costs $2.6m a year vs $7m for Ratliff."

Anybody who took the homer glasses off would take this deal in a second. Problem is, as with so many other Cowboy veteran players, a good portion of Ratliff's salary is guaranteed so the Cowboys are hamstrung in their ability to do anything.

The Jenkins signing really has nothing to do with Jay Ratliff's contract. I think we all know we're over a barrel on that particular deal, don't we?
 

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SilverStarCowboy;5019382 said:
Could have helped here, good signing.

Where would you have played him? And over whom?
 

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Idgit;5019219 said:
Of course not. It was a reference to posters saying every signing is good when they remember the name from years prior.

I didn't follow Jenkins in PHI last season at all. He's, what, 32, with what was supposed to have been a degenerative knee condition when he left GB (I might have the wrong, but that was my recollection). Then he played well in PHI's 2011 dream-season, and I thought he'd fallen off last year.

He'll be a rotational guy in NY, though, anyway. It looks like a reasonable signing to me given the contract.

Lol ok. Sometimes I have to ask. Lol. I agree reasonable deal for the giants.
 

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CowboyGil;5019295 said:
I think TC is addressing the wrong part of the defense. It's the passing game where they were getting killed last year. When Spagnuolo left is when their D started going downhill IMO.

You can mask the deficiencies of a secondary to a certain extent by strengthening the pass rush.
 

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Little Jr;5019848 said:
Lol ok. Sometimes I have to ask. Lol. I agree reasonable deal for the giants.

I know. It's hard to tell, sometimes.

For a team that's juggling it's DL, he makes a lot of sense at what's an affordable price.
 

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Idgit;5019386 said:
Where would you have played him? And over whom?

I wouldn't have signed him, however, he would have been a improvement over Ratliff.
 

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Price is right. Not a huge upgrade over Canty but saved us good cap money. So I like this move.
 
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