Gibbs: 'Skins aren't circumventing salary cap

[Idgit]

If they are cheating, then they should be caught and busted for it. Loss of picks, whatever.

But, if they aren't. I want to see the Peter King's and Lenny P's up on a stage to either apologize or announce they won't cover the NFL anymore.

Enough of this saying it, without really saying it crap.

If you know they're cheating, then prove it.

Of course they're not cheating. They're just attenuating contracts and willing to live with roster volatility. Extend most of the signings that work out, jettison the ones that don't. Eliminate the uncertainty of the draft (hee). Pray for no career-ending injuries to core players or the house of cards falls down. Committ to relatively high payroll loads.

It's not magic. It's agressive. It's not a road anyone else wants to go down, either, which should tell you something. Oh, and it hasn't been successful.

 

[lzppjb]

You still fail to see the point. We all know teams have players with sketchy pasts. That's not the arguement. We get annoyed with Skins fans who try and deny this based solely on their opinion that Gibbs is deity.

 

[trentmonster]

Who here's talking about playoffs? And what hail marys are you talking about? I seem to remember Moss getting behind your secondary twice. Don't act like it was luck. Yes, you kicked our *** up and down the field for 55 minutes, but you couldn't finish the job. Sorry.

As far as the cap game goes, for years people have been saying the Skins will be in "cap hell." Well where is it?

Hmm, maybe not "cap hell" but perhaps "can't sniff a super bowl hell" would be more appropriate.

 

[Idgit]

YOUR ignorance is in the fact that the Commanders have played the cap game better than anyone else over the years and can't come to grips with it.

Some game: winner spends the most without actually winning anything.

 

[Rack]

cue the cowboy fan's collective whining...

Link

I suggest you read that.

 

[Way 'nuff]

You still fail to see the point. We all know teams have players with sketchy pasts. That's not the arguement. We get annoyed with Skins fans who try and deny this based solely on their opinion that Gibbs is deity.

Gibbs brought our organization 3 superbowls. We hold him in the regard that you have for Landry, the Packers fans have for Lombardi and the Steelers fans have for Chuck Knoll.

Admittedly, our team had sucked for a long time. Finally Snyder wisened up, brought back the man who was last successful with team and let him make decisions. Snyder is perfectly happy to let Gibbs and Co. run wild with the checkbook.

After a first rough year, he's turning the ship around. I'm sorry if you fail to see that. 10-6, 5-1 in the division and a playoff win.

I'm not coming in here and saying the Cowboys suck. Any team coached by Parcells must be taken seriously. Furthermore, every team in the NFC east needs to be taken seriously.

I just don't get why I come to this board and see Cowboys fans ignore our success last season.

As far as the Commanders not winning anything lately, I haven't heard much from your team lately, either.

 

[Derinyar]

Hehehe, well, we skins fans come in HERE knowing that the Cowboys have a wealth of criminals in their past, yet we have one in our secondary and I can't go into a thread without HEARING about it.

YOUR ignorance is in the fact that the Commanders have played the cap game better than anyone else over the years and can't come to grips with it.

The Commanders are the undisputed kings of March. They have been continually doing the same things, the only thing that has saved them is the rate at which the cap has been expanding. The Cap has been expanding faster than figured on for a whie, especially this year. That has allowed the Skins to no wind up in a huge bind, that and the fact that your core players are still willing to restructre each year. The skins are literally one career ending injury away from a hell of a lot of trouble.

Frankly, I think the Skins "success" in March has hurt them more than its helped them. It makes their Front Office undervalue the draft and drafted players. It means they have to be the Kings of March every year to have any chance at a decent team.

 

[5Stars]

The Commanders are the undisputed kings of March. They have been continually doing the same things, the only thing that has saved them is the rate at which the cap has been expanding. The Cap has been expanding faster than figured on for a whie, especially this year. That has allowed the Skins to no wind up in a huge bind, that and the fact that your core players are still willing to restructre each year. The skins are literally one career ending injury away from a hell of a lot of trouble.

Frankly, I think the Skins "success" in March has hurt them more than its helped them. It makes their Front Office undervalue the draft and drafted players. It means they have to be the Kings of March every year to have any chance at a decent team.

Yeah, but you forgot! They won a playoff game! Finally, after how many years? RedStink fans ore on top of the world! I mean, they swept the Boyz! How much better does it get for them!

Hey, they think they are the King of the Jungle! :laugh2:

We will see this coming season, just what they are about! And, if they end up sucking, as usual, you will not see a Redstink fan on this site for, oh, lets say, another 6 or 7 years!
:laugh1:

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Coming out of Miami, there wasn't any questions about Taylor's attitude.

Uh, he was referred to as the "craziest player to have ever played for the Hurricanes" when he was being drafted.

To say that there weren't any questions about his attitude is like saying Andy Reid is a vegan.


Rich...........

 

[Way 'nuff]

Uh, he was referred to as the "craziest player to have ever played for the Hurricanes" when he was being drafted.

To say that there weren't any questions about his attitude is like saying Andy Reid is a vegan.


Rich...........

Thats a good analogy! cracking on that fat walrus never gets old.

I remember during the draft all his background checks and interviews came out fine. Who referred to him as the craziest player to have ever played for the hurricanes?

 

[Rack]

Thats a good analogy! cracking on that fat walrus never gets old.

I remember during the draft all his background checks and interviews came out fine. Who referred to him as the craziest player to have ever played for the hurricanes?

I remember there being questions about Taylor's attitude and character as well.


I think Taylor's a bit overated although still a very solid player. But let's not change or ignore the truth here, he does have an attitude problem. High character people don't go shooting at other people.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Thats a good analogy! cracking on that fat walrus never gets old.

I remember during the draft all his background checks and interviews came out fine. Who referred to him as the craziest player to have ever played for the hurricanes?

As a draftnick, it was pretty common knowledge. This was such a big concern that many thought it would hurt his draft status, especially after his Pro Day workout wasn't as good as expected. IIRC, he ran his 40 times in the 4.55 range (expected to be in the 4.45 range) and only benched 225 pounds like 15 times.

Rich..............

 

[Way 'nuff]

I remember there being questions about Taylor's attitude and character as well.


I think Taylor's a bit overated although still a very solid player. But let's not change or ignore the truth here, he does have an attitude problem. High character people don't go shooting at other people.

Not changing it or ignoring it. I'm definitely not happy about it.

 

[5Stars]

I remember there being questions about Taylor's attitude and character as well.


I think Taylor's a bit overated although still a very solid player. But let's not change or ignore the truth here, he does have an attitude problem. High character people don't go shooting at other people.

Or spitting in people's face! He's a freaking thug, period! But, the worst part about it, he's a rich thug, and he will get off of any charges against him...that's just the way it is, sadly!

 

[Rack]

Not changing it or ignoring it. I'm definitely not happy about it.

Hey at least he didn't get convicted for vehicular manslaughter (Dwayne Goodrich).


But I never liked Goodrich even before he ran those people over. The dude is, by far, the worst CB to ever wear a cowboys uniform.

 

[5Stars]

Hey at least he didn't get convicted for vehicular manslaughter (Dwayne Goodrich).


But I never liked Goodrich even before he ran those people over. The dude is, by far, the worst CB to ever wear a cowboys uniform.

And, who drafted him? Yup, you guessed it!

Vacation boy!

 

[Way 'nuff]

As a draftnick, it was pretty common knowledge. This was such a big concern that many thought it would hurt his draft status, especially after his Pro Day workout wasn't as good as expected. IIRC, he ran his 40 times in the 4.55 range (expected to be in the 4.45 range) and only benched 225 pounds like 15 times.

Rich..............

I seem to remember a little bit of questioning about it, but nothing too major that would affect his draft status.

Say what you want about his 40 time and bench press, the dude can lay a hit

 

[Pokes28]

Some simple truths about the cap and various aspects.

First, there is no such thing as cap hell until a team is a constant winner. One year in the playoffs does not qualify. The reason is simple. Bad teams always have players that aren't playing up to their contracts that can be gotten rid of or negotiated down. Look at the teams that have been in true cap hell since the start of free agency and you will see the Cowboys (superbowls), the 9ers (superbowl and playoff runs), and the Titans (several playoff runs). The Jaguars were there, but gave their way out of it when the Texans came into the league.

The method of contract structure that the Skins use isn't likely to be very harmful for at least a couple more seasons and if they don't continue to be a good team, they will simply cut some dead weight and move on.

David Harrell - Pokes
dwh

 

[5Stars]

the dude can lay a hit

And the dude can lay some spit!

 

[Way 'nuff]

Hey at least he didn't get convicted for vehicular manslaughter (Dwayne Goodrich).


But I never liked Goodrich even before he ran those people over. The dude is, by far, the worst CB to ever wear a cowboys uniform.

That dudes pathetic.

Drugs, crime, whatever, its way sad when athletes for any team screw up. I was bummed to hear about the Doc Gooden news today.