Gimmesix's preseason Game 3 analysis

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Thursday's game provided us with a little more information about who Dallas is likely to keep on the 53-man roster. There are still some unsettled spots where we need to see more from players, but the roster is beginning to take shape.

OFFENSE

Quarterbacks (2)
Tony Romo, Dak Prescott
COMMENTS Romo going down briefly was a scary moment, but it gave Prescott the opportunity to come in cold and show if he could handle it. Seattle made him more uncomfortable than the previous two games, but he still showed plenty of poise even if a few of his throws were off. You want to see how a young quarterback handles pressure and his reads were spot on even if some of his throws sailed because he didn't get properly set. Showers showed more promise than he had in the previous two games, but there were enough holes in his performance that it shouldn't be a problem to get him to the practice squad.

Running backs (4)
Ezekiel Elliott, Alfred Morris, Lance Dunbar, Darius Jackson
COMMENTS I've decided to elevate Jackson simply because we don't know at this point if McFadden will be ready to return at the start of the season. I still want to see more vision and inside running ability from Jackson, but it's hard for him to show it when the interior blocking doesn't hold up. Elliott was pretty much everything that we could have hoped for, showing good vision to know when to cut, speed and power. About the only thing more he could have done is made a long run. Having Morris as his backup will give the team a stout 1-2 punch. We've yet to see Dunbar, but he's at least practicing, which is more than we can say of McFadden.

Fullback (1)
Keith Smith
COMMENTS Rod Smith being out hasn't helped his chances to be the team's fullback, while Keith Smith keeps excelling in the one area that I believe will help him make this team: special teams. He's one of two players that I believe will make the team primarily based on special teams play because of his ability to play returns well.

Tight ends (3)
Jason Witten, Geoff Swaim, Gavin Escobar
COMMENTS Although it might not be the case, it seemed to me that Swaim is getting more looks than Escobar at this point. Perhaps that's because he's worked with Prescott more or perhaps it's because Escobar is coming off injury. Whatever the case, Escobar hasn't been targeted much while Prescott keeps throwing to Swaim, who might step into Hanna's role in the offense since Escobar is still not a great blocker.

Wide receivers (5)
Dez Bryant, Terrence Williams, Cole Beasley, Brice Butler, Lucky Whitehead
COMMENTS It seems like every time Williams is asked to step into the No. 1 role, he fails. At this point, he's got to understand the need to attack the ball at its highest point instead of waiting for it to drop into his body. Butler will have to do more than he has, though, to push Williams out of the No. 2 role because this front office doesn't make changes easily. Dropping passes will limit Whitehead to just being a return and end-around option.

Offensive line (8)

Tyron Smith, La'el Collins, Travis Frederick, Zach Martin, Doug Free, Ron Leary, Joe Looney, Chaz Green
COMMENTS There were a few glitches with the first-team blocking (I'm looking at you Free), but for the most part it provided enough protection to force Seattle to blitz to make Prescott uncomfortable. I'm getting more and more comfortable with Green as the backup tackle. He has a tendency to lose focus on his technique when he gets tired, but he's been pretty solid so far when asked to step in with the first team.

DEFENSE

Defensive ends (5)
(DeMarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory) Benson Mayowa, David Irving, Jack Crawford, Ryan Russell, Charles Tapper
COMMENTS The lack of overall pressure by the ends was disappointing. I know Seattle's quarterbacks' ability to scramble affected it some, but there were plenty of times the ends didn't get off their blocks to even force that. Even with Lawrence in there we were not very effective. Crawford continues to play the best of any of the ends, while I was hoping to see more burst from Mayowa. Irving and Tapper did not play.

Defensive tackles (5)
Tyrone Crawford, Terrell McClain, Maliek Collins, Cedric Thornton, Shanell Jenkins
COMMENTS It didn't help our pressure that Crawford didn't play. The first-team run defense was solid, but we weren't doing much to collapse the pocket against the pass. Missing Jenkins might have hurt, too, since he showed more in his first two games as a pass rusher than what we saw from Collins, who is coming off a broken foot. McClain continues to play with the first team ahead of Thornton, who said he's still learning the system. Thornton was on the field when our run defense got porous, but some of that was bad linebacker play.

Linebackers (7)
Sean Lee, Justin Durant, (Rolando McClain), Anthony Hitchens, Damien Wilson, Andrew Gachkar, Kyle Wilber, Mark Nzeocha
COMMENTS When Lee and Durant were in the game, I didn't notice any issues with the linebackers, but Hitchens and the younger players had all kinds of problems with hitting their gaps, taking good angles, etc. Based on this game, it looks like Lee and Durant are head and shoulders above everyone else, which is scary considering their pasts with injuries. Gachkar still isn't playing, though, and if nothing else, he at least seems to understand where he's supposed to be. We were also without Nzeocha and Morris, so there were a lot of linebackers in there who have no shot of making this roster

Cornerbacks (5)
Morris Claiborne, Orlando Scandrick, Brandon Carr, Antony Brown, Deji Olatoye
COMMENTS Claiborne made some tackling missteps but he continues to provide mostly solid coverage. He needs to be given the chance to start alongside Scandrick, when he gets healthy, and let Carr step in if Claiborne struggles. Brown had a few mistakes, but looked good overall and Olatoye looks to be the next best.

Safeties (5)
Barry Church, Byron Jones, Jeff Heath, Kavon Frazier, J.J. Wilcox
COMMENTS My surprise pick for this week to make the roster is Wilcox. Yes, I know that he sucks in coverage, but go back and watch his special teams play. I think much like others before him, such as Danny McCray, he's kept for special teams purposes. He'll probably be fourth in line to go into the game at safety, though, ahead of Frazier, but Dallas should limit his safety snaps as much as possible or replace him with someone who is good at both.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Kicker (1)
Dan Bailey
COMMENTS Bailey likes to miss a field goal every now and then just to remind us that he's human.

Punter (1)
Chris Jones
COMMENTS Jones is averaging only 40.4 yards per punt, but he's only punted five times, with two downed inside the 20. The fact that opponents only have 35 return yards and his long is only 45 yards says he's been pretty steady.

Long snapper (1)
L.P. Ladouceur
 

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Thursday's game provided us with a little more information about who Dallas is likely to keep on the 53-man roster. There are still some unsettled spots where we need to see more from players, but the roster is beginning to take shape.

OFFENSE

Quarterbacks (2)
Tony Romo, Dak Prescott
COMMENTS Romo going down briefly was a scary moment, but it gave Prescott the opportunity to come in cold and show if he could handle it. Seattle made him more uncomfortable than the previous two games, but he still showed plenty of poise even if a few of his throws were off. You want to see how a young quarterback handles pressure and his reads were spot on even if some of his throws sailed because he didn't get properly set. Showers showed more promise than he had in the previous two games, but there were enough holes in his performance that it shouldn't be a problem to get him to the practice squad.

Running backs (4)
Ezekiel Elliott, Alfred Morris, Lance Dunbar, Darius Jackson
COMMENTS I've decided to elevate Jackson simply because we don't know at this point if McFadden will be ready to return at the start of the season. I still want to see more vision and inside running ability from Jackson, but it's hard for him to show it when the interior blocking doesn't hold up. Elliott was pretty much everything that we could have hoped for, showing good vision to know when to cut, speed and power. About the only thing more he could have done is made a long run. Having Morris as his backup will give the team a stout 1-2 punch. We've yet to see Dunbar, but he's at least practicing, which is more than we can say of McFadden.

Fullback (1)
Keith Smith
COMMENTS Rod Smith being out hasn't helped his chances to be the team's fullback, while Keith Smith keeps excelling in the one area that I believe will help him make this team: special teams. He's one of two players that I believe will make the team primarily based on special teams play because of his ability to play returns well.

Tight ends (3)
Jason Witten, Geoff Swaim, Gavin Escobar
COMMENTS Although it might not be the case, it seemed to me that Swaim is getting more looks than Escobar at this point. Perhaps that's because he's worked with Prescott more or perhaps it's because Escobar is coming off injury. Whatever the case, Escobar hasn't been targeted much while Prescott keeps throwing to Swaim, who might step into Hanna's role in the offense since Escobar is still not a great blocker.

Wide receivers (5)
Dez Bryant, Terrence Williams, Cole Beasley, Brice Butler, Lucky Whitehead
COMMENTS It seems like every time Williams is asked to step into the No. 1 role, he fails. At this point, he's got to understand the need to attack the ball at its highest point instead of waiting for it to drop into his body. Butler will have to do more than he has, though, to push Williams out of the No. 2 role because this front office doesn't make changes easily. Dropping passes will limit Whitehead to just being a return and end-around option.

Offensive line (8)

Tyron Smith, La'el Collins, Travis Frederick, Zach Martin, Doug Free, Ron Leary, Joe Looney, Chaz Green
COMMENTS There were a few glitches with the first-team blocking (I'm looking at you Free), but for the most part it provided enough protection to force Seattle to blitz to make Prescott uncomfortable. I'm getting more and more comfortable with Green as the backup tackle. He has a tendency to lose focus on his technique when he gets tired, but he's been pretty solid so far when asked to step in with the first team.

DEFENSE

Defensive ends (5)
(DeMarcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory) Benson Mayowa, David Irving, Jack Crawford, Ryan Russell, Charles Tapper
COMMENTS The lack of overall pressure by the ends was disappointing. I know Seattle's quarterbacks' ability to scramble affected it some, but there were plenty of times the ends didn't get off their blocks to even force that. Even with Lawrence in there we were not very effective. Crawford continues to play the best of any of the ends, while I was hoping to see more burst from Mayowa. Irving and Tapper did not play.

Defensive tackles (5)
Tyrone Crawford, Terrell McClain, Maliek Collins, Cedric Thornton, Shanell Jenkins
COMMENTS It didn't help our pressure that Crawford didn't play. The first-team run defense was solid, but we weren't doing much to collapse the pocket against the pass. Missing Jenkins might have hurt, too, since he showed more in his first two games as a pass rusher than what we saw from Collins, who is coming off a broken foot. McClain continues to play with the first team ahead of Thornton, who said he's still learning the system. Thornton was on the field when our run defense got porous, but some of that was bad linebacker play.

Linebackers (7)
Sean Lee, Justin Durant, (Rolando McClain), Anthony Hitchens, Damien Wilson, Andrew Gachkar, Kyle Wilber, Mark Nzeocha
COMMENTS When Lee and Durant were in the game, I didn't notice any issues with the linebackers, but Hitchens and the younger players had all kinds of problems with hitting their gaps, taking good angles, etc. Based on this game, it looks like Lee and Durant are head and shoulders above everyone else, which is scary considering their pasts with injuries. Gachkar still isn't playing, though, and if nothing else, he at least seems to understand where he's supposed to be. We were also without Nzeocha and Morris, so there were a lot of linebackers in there who have no shot of making this roster

Cornerbacks (5)
Morris Claiborne, Orlando Scandrick, Brandon Carr, Antony Brown, Deji Olatoye
COMMENTS Claiborne made some tackling missteps but he continues to provide mostly solid coverage. He needs to be given the chance to start alongside Scandrick, when he gets healthy, and let Carr step in if Claiborne struggles. Brown had a few mistakes, but looked good overall and Olatoye looks to be the next best.

Safeties (5)
Barry Church, Byron Jones, Jeff Heath, Kavon Frazier, J.J. Wilcox
COMMENTS My surprise pick for this week to make the roster is Wilcox. Yes, I know that he sucks in coverage, but go back and watch his special teams play. I think much like others before him, such as Danny McCray, he's kept for special teams purposes. He'll probably be fourth in line to go into the game at safety, though, ahead of Frazier, but Dallas should limit his safety snaps as much as possible or replace him with someone who is good at both.

SPECIAL TEAMS

Kicker (1)
Dan Bailey
COMMENTS Bailey likes to miss a field goal every now and then just to remind us that he's human.

Punter (1)
Chris Jones
COMMENTS Jones is averaging only 40.4 yards per punt, but he's only punted five times, with two downed inside the 20. The fact that opponents only have 35 return yards and his long is only 45 yards says he's been pretty steady.

Long snapper (1)
L.P. Ladouceur
Looks like the highest probability of what will happen. No disagreement from me.

Top questions:
Showers

McFadden NFI or cut/traded.

FB but KS seems like a near lock.

DL Russell? and Jenkins injury?

LB Is Gachkar a lock? Can Keith Smith allow then to keep 1 less LB?

CB Slight chance for Thomas or McKinnon.

Safety Don't know if they keep both Wilcox and Frazier. #23 has made a few plays.

They almost always seem to pickup a player or two after cuts.
 

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I found this interesting from dallascowboys.com since Traylor's kind of my dark horse to make the roster if Dallas decides to go without a fullback:

  • Something to keep an eye on – Austin Traylor took first team snaps with the offense when they went with their “12” and “13” personnel groups. I said this last week that Traylor is the most physical blocker of the tight ends not named Jason Witten and he is capable of doing the things that James Hanna does at the point of attack.
 

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Looks like the highest probability of what will happen. No disagreement from me.

Top questions:
Showers

McFadden NFI or cut/traded.

FB but KS seems like a near lock.

DL Russell? and Jenkins injury?

LB Is Gachkar a lock? Can Keith Smith allow then to keep 1 less LB?

CB Slight chance for Thomas or McKinnon.

Safety Don't know if they keep both Wilcox and Frazier. #23 has made a few plays.

They almost always seem to pickup a player or two after cuts.

I think we'll be keeping an eye out for safeties, defensive ends and possibly linebackers.

I just posted about Austin Traylor and wonder if Dallas might be willing to go lighter at safety (cutting Wilcox) and keep Traylor. However, four tight ends, a fullback and four tailbacks is pretty rich.

I can't say I noticed how Traylor performed on special teams.
 

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Looks like the highest probability of what will happen. No disagreement from me.

Top questions:
Showers

McFadden NFI or cut/traded.

FB but KS seems like a near lock.

DL Russell? and Jenkins injury?

LB Is Gachkar a lock? Can Keith Smith allow then to keep 1 less LB?

CB Slight chance for Thomas or McKinnon.

Safety Don't know if they keep both Wilcox and Frazier. #23 has made a few plays.

They almost always seem to pickup a player or two after cuts.
With McFadden, I still a run/catch/block back coming off a 1K can still fetch you a pick. Probably no higher then a 6th, but still better then cutting. If someone gets cute and trades a 2018 5th, that would be nice.

When is he supposed ro be available?
 

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With McFadden, I still a run/catch/block back coming off a 1K can still fetch you a pick. Probably no higher then a 6th, but still better then cutting. If someone gets cute and trades a 2018 5th, that would be nice.

When is he supposed ro be available?
I don't know his exact status with the injury.

Unfortunately, most injuries to other team's RBs will occur during the season. If McFadden stays on NFI, then he can't play the 1st 6 weeks which means they have to trade him before the season or wait 6 weeks. They have to pay his weekly salary while on NFI.
 

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I know Romo is OK, but this game made me believe we need to carry three QBs. I think we should grab someone after final cuts for QB3.
 

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Thats not much of a game analysis, its more of a 53 man prediction.
 

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I think we'll be keeping an eye out for safeties, defensive ends and possibly linebackers.

I just posted about Austin Traylor and wonder if Dallas might be willing to go lighter at safety (cutting Wilcox) and keep Traylor. However, four tight ends, a fullback and four tailbacks is pretty rich.

I can't say I noticed how Traylor performed on special teams.
If they keep Traylor it will likely be because they need him for game 1, not because they think somebody will steal him away.

Yes, normally RB + FB + TE (3, 1, 3) adds up to 7 or 8 but 4 + 1 + 4 is obviously 9.

I still would not be shocked if they somehow keep Rico Gathers. Jerry likes projects.
 

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Quarterbacks (2)
Tony Romo, Dak Prescott

Great writeup, to me the main thing about this game was the elephant in the kitchen - Dak Prescott looks like he was a first round pick taken three years ago, not a 4th rounder in his rookie season.

Couple of nitpicks on the roster, Im still not certain Jenkins makes the 53 instead of the IR. Also I think the team will add a 9th OL by picking up an OT cut at the deadline as the 9th OL.

Another thing from this game was that I liked Claiborne's play, he didn't show up in the stat sheet a lot but played a good game. I think he is going to have a very good year. I do think Wilcox gets cut. Also CB Anthony Brown got a lot of reps and played well, but I do think Olatoye is ahead of him for the 4th CB spot.
 

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I know Romo is OK, but this game made me believe we need to carry three QBs. I think we should grab someone after final cuts for QB3.

I can understand that, and it's hard to argue with. I still think I'd prefer to keep the third guy on the practice squad. If Romo gets hurt, we can bring him up. I don't think it's likely that both Romo and Prescott get hurt in a game, and if they do, I don't think it's likely we're going to find anyone we can win with.
 

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If they keep Traylor it will likely be because they need him for game 1, not because they think somebody will steal him away.

Yes, normally RB + FB + TE (3, 1, 3) adds up to 7 or 8 but 4 + 1 + 4 is obviously 9.

I still would not be shocked if they somehow keep Rico Gathers. Jerry likes projects.

Oh, I think if we keep Traylor it's because we feel we need him as a blocker. He's blocking well enough to get snaps with the first team and I'm not sure any of the other TEs other than Witten can replace Hanna in that regard.

I'm starting to get curious about Escobar's roster security. We really haven't seen him do much this preseason, although he did look better as an in-line blocker against St. Louis.

I think Rico is too much of a project to keep on the 53.
 

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I can understand that, and it's hard to argue with. I still think I'd prefer to keep the third guy on the practice squad. If Romo gets hurt, we can bring him up. I don't think it's likely that both Romo and Prescott get hurt in a game, and if they do, I don't think it's likely we're going to find anyone we can win with.

IMO getting a veteran 3rd QB to sit behind Dak would be interesting. Though it would be good for Dak.
 

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Great writeup, to me the main thing about this game was the elephant in the kitchen - Dak Prescott looks like he was a first round pick taken three years ago, not a 4th rounder in his rookie season.

Couple of nitpicks on the roster, Im still not certain Jenkins makes the 53 instead of the IR. Also I think the team will add a 9th OL by picking up an OT cut at the deadline as the 9th OL.

Another thing from this game was that I liked Claiborne's play, he didn't show up in the stat sheet a lot but played a good game. I think he is going to have a very good year. I do think Wilcox gets cut. Also CB Anthony Brown got a lot of reps and played well, but I do think Olatoye is ahead of him for the 4th CB spot.

I saw a few rookie moments with Prescott, but too few to really quibble about. He definitely has a veteran presence and looks like a true find in the fourth round.

Is Jenkins that hurt? I haven't read anything that seems to indicate his injuries will land him on IR.

I would not be surprised if we add a veteran OL. We've been bringing them in right and left to try to at least find one to compete.

I agree on Claiborne. I think he's been playing well in coverage. His run defense is suspect, like most corners, but I don't think it's because he shies away from contact. I just think he's not very good at tackling.

I won't be surprised if Wilcox gets cut because he's a bad safety, but he's a core special-teammer. I disagree that Olatoye is ahead of Brown since Brown has been getting time with the first team, but I think both will make the team
 

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Oh, I think if we keep Traylor it's because we feel we need him as a blocker. He's blocking well enough to get snaps with the first team and I'm not sure any of the other TEs other than Witten can replace Hanna in that regard.

I'm starting to get curious about Escobar's roster security. We really haven't seen him do much this preseason, although he did look better as an in-line blocker against St. Louis.

I think Rico is too much of a project to keep on the 53.
Escobar's blocking looked significantly better than at anytime in the past. He has always been a good receiver that I think could be even better if he had enough opportunities. It has to be difficult to excel when you only get 1 or 2 passes throw to you per game.

I like Traylor, but the Cowboys had a guy 2 or 3 years ago that was a very good in-line blocker, but they didn't even keep him on the practice squad. His problem was that he didn't learn the offense well enough to function in the multiple roles (h-back, going in motion, pulling across the formation, lining up in the backfield, etc.). Swaim seems to be doing some of those extra roles but I only recall Traylor lining up in the tradition TE role.

I agree that Rico Gathers is too much of a project, but the Cowboys always seem to keep 1 or 2 projects on the roster. They had OT Weems on the 53 for part of 2012, all of 2013, all of 2014 and part of 2015. He was on the 46 just 1 time.
 

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Keith Davis, Danny McCray, JJ Wilcox.

Keep Wilcox on special teams and he will excel like them. Make him play Safety and he is just as bad as them.
 

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Good OP, and pretty spot on for the roster. The one thing that could happen, is one less S, and they keep Traylor at TE.

The other thing people need to remember, as long as McFadden is on NFI he will be there. You can't trade an injured player. So he would need to be activated then traded before the cuts. Or kept on the roster then traded. And I don't think they will expose losing a player on waivers if they feel they can trade McFadden. That player would need to be someone they can lose. Like Wilcox or one of the bubble guys.
 

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I like to do both together, combining the 53 with what I saw in the game.
Thats cool. I was expecting a recap review of the game, though. Not saying your post was a bad thing, just not what I was expecting from the title.
 
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