Give McCarthy a break

Cowfan75

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,960
Reaction score
7,769
Jerry loves this type of fan. Already over the sting of another failure, eh? MM's game management blunders are reason enough to dismiss him. He's just another walkabout coach in Jerry's world. Yeah, he's better than Garrett, but that's a really low bar set. Quinn is the one who turned trash into diamonds, and is more responsible for our "back to back accomplishment" than MM. Quinn will HC in another year anyway, so what is the point? Just do it already.
 

Cowboyny

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,686
Reaction score
19,916
Mike McCarthy was pushed out the door at Green Bay because Aaron Rodgers wasn't happy with Mike, correct me if Im wrong.As time has moved on, Aaron the great has had a few chances to get back to the Superbowl. No excuses because he's had very good receivers and people around him to accomplish his goals. Aaron hasn't gotten back to the superbowl in Green Bay. Maybe we should give Mike McCarthy a chance. He's already proven he can compete with the best. He's doing it now in Dallas.
Rodgers is also complaining about his current HC.
 

Cowboy_svt

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,680
Reaction score
3,035
The talent on that Green Bay team had deteriorated badly by the end of Mike’s time there.

They also “retired” their GM Thompson at the same time. He only wanted to build through the draft, but his drafts had sucked for years.

The defense had gotten terrible under Thompson, and as soon as the new GM came in he went on a huge FA spending spree on defense, which is what they badly needed. The defense was MUCH better in the first year after McCarthy left.

It was time to move on though. Mike’s time in GB was over. The team and he needed change.

However, LaFleur wouldn’t have won a lot without overhauling that entire defense.

Mike is clearly a good coach who has always proven that he can overcome a rash of injuries if needed… something a lot of coaches can’t.
A badly unrecognized talent of his.
His superbowl he won he had a record number of players on IR.

This year with the starting QB down for 5 games, a revolving cast at Oline due to many injuries plus a rookie starting, multiple injuries to defense at core spots - and still finished 12-5.
Of course he had help, but man this team used to completely collapse when a single player got hurt.
 

CTcowboy203

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,536
Reaction score
4,498
I like big Mike. Not a perfect coach, has his flaws but he’s produced for us better than many to have come and gone here over the last 25 years.

Next step is can he get us back to the post season again and win multiple games there
 

CTcowboy203

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,536
Reaction score
4,498
I can’t shake the Rodgers comment on MM.

I realize the circumstances, but I just don’t believe there’s no truth to it.

Between that and the limitations of the QB….I’ll be hopeful as always because I’m a fool….. but I don’t see how the MM/Dak combo gives us some sort of advantage over anyone….especially the brighter young minds in the league…ya know the ones that can see that their ‘good’ QB isn’t going to be good ENOUGH, and have the balls to make a huge change. Those types.

The Rams made the SB then traded their QB because they knew he wasn’t the answer.

Jerry would have built Goff a statue.

I think time has shown us that much of what Rodgers says is either hyperbolic, a lie or from a view of someone who a very inflated opinion of himself. Not saying he’s 100% wrong on mm but I don’t put 100% stock into it either.
 

nalam

The realist
Messages
11,783
Reaction score
7,066
So if he needed a QB the caliber of Aaron Rodgers the first time to accomplish winning the SB, are we to assume McCarthy can coach up Dak to the same level of performance?

I don't think Dak can be coached up to that level.
Nor do I think Dak can win 4 consecutive playoff games regardless of GM, HC, OC, DC or supporting cast.

At least everyone will finally be able to get off the "It's all Kellen's fault" excuse and allow McCarthy to sink or swim on his own terms.

 jmo
That is exacly he has been offered,
 

Cowfan75

Well-Known Member
Messages
6,960
Reaction score
7,769
McCarthy was brought in to do one thing - win playoff games. The team was ready made to be successful. So far he has been a complete failure. the 12 win seasons are nice but we had good years under Wade and Garrett before him, what they didn't do was deliver in the playoffs. This is where McCarthy was more experienced and would be an improvement, but so far, complete and total failure. We have been beat 2 years in a row by the same team with stupid plays to end the game both years. His clock management is pee wee football bad. He did do a good job of working with the injuries we had this year, so that is a big kudos to him and his staff but everything else is pretty underwhelming when it comes to big Mike.
Couldn't have said it better. It's a phenomenon around here, created by years of mediocrity. A couple weeks after another failed season, and fans are starting with the "we're good, we're right there" nonsense. Jerry only needed to jettison some background coaches and one part of our offensive woes...bam, happy times and Super Bowl. A real owner would be so infuriated by our hated rivals going to a Super Bowl, that everyone would be put on notice. Not at the country club. But now that the dust has settled, Jerry can get back on air, and continue not planning anything in FA.
 

visionary

Well-Known Member
Messages
28,365
Reaction score
33,314
Mike McCarthy was pushed out the door at Green Bay because Aaron Rodgers wasn't happy with Mike, correct me if Im wrong.As time has moved on, Aaron the great has had a few chances to get back to the Superbowl. No excuses because he's had very good receivers and people around him to accomplish his goals. Aaron hasn't gotten back to the superbowl in Green Bay. Maybe we should give Mike McCarthy a chance. He's already proven he can compete with the best. He's doing it now in Dallas.
He gets this year
That’s it
If he was willing to kow tow to Jerry for 2 years and let KM call plays just so he could kick back and count his money, that’s on him
He also lied about the work he put in when he interviewed

I’m not a fan
 

Aerolithe_Lion

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,688
Reaction score
12,808
Rodgers missed 10 of those games. He's also won 1 playoff game over the last 3 years despite being named MVP twice.
He was the best player in the world in back to back 13-3 seasons when those playoff exits happened. Playoff issues did not get McCarthy fired. Rodgers starting 16 games Mccarthy’s final year and still finishing with a losing record did.
 

Staubacher

Well-Known Member
Messages
12,171
Reaction score
23,470
McCarthy was brought in to do one thing - win playoff games. The team was ready made to be successful. So far he has been a complete failure. the 12 win seasons are nice but we had good years under Wade and Garrett before him, what they didn't do was deliver in the playoffs. This is where McCarthy was more experienced and would be an improvement, but so far, complete and total failure. We have been beat 2 years in a row by the same team with stupid plays to end the game both years. His clock management is pee wee football bad. He did do a good job of working with the injuries we had this year, so that is a big kudos to him and his staff but everything else is pretty underwhelming when it comes to big Mike.
His QB failed him big time in the playoffs both years.
He overachieved with this squad.
 

fivetwos

Well-Known Member
Messages
20,728
Reaction score
28,581
I think time has shown us that much of what Rodgers says is either hyperbolic, a lie or from a view of someone who a very inflated opinion of himself. Not saying he’s 100% wrong on mm but I don’t put 100% stock into it either.
Not just because he is the topic, but I honestly think he is the biggest (choose any bad word) of all pro sports athletes in existence. Can’t stand the dude.

I’d like to dismiss it, but there’s gotta be at least something to it. Either way, even if Mike isn’t terrible, is he really bringing us anything special, especially when you consider how much there is to overcome with this franchise and the owners need to be a celebrity?
 

75boyz

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,686
Reaction score
10,536
Couldn't have said it better. It's a phenomenon around here, created by years of mediocrity. A couple weeks after another failed season, and fans are starting with the "we're good, we're right there" nonsense. Jerry only needed to jettison some background coaches and one part of our offensive woes...bam, happy times and Super Bowl. A real owner would be so infuriated by our hated rivals going to a Super Bowl, that everyone would be put on notice. Not at the country club. But now that the dust has settled, Jerry can get back on air, and continue not planning anything in FA.
Bingo, precisely.
Jerry hypnotism potion makes it into fanbase waters.
 

75boyz

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,686
Reaction score
10,536
He gets this year
That’s it
If he was willing to kow tow to Jerry for 2 years and let KM call plays just so he could kick back and count his money, that’s on him
He also lied about the work he put in when he interviewed

I’m not a fan
Same here and it appears as though things are setting up as you describe here hopefully. Appearances can always be deceiving when referring to the Joneses though.
Good post.
 

KJJ

You Have an Axe to Grind
Messages
61,614
Reaction score
38,979
Mike McCarthy was pushed out the door at Green Bay because Aaron Rodgers wasn't happy with Mike, correct me if Im wrong.As time has moved on, Aaron the great has had a few chances to get back to the Superbowl. No excuses because he's had very good receivers and people around him to accomplish his goals. Aaron hasn't gotten back to the superbowl in Green Bay. Maybe we should give Mike McCarthy a chance. He's already proven he can compete with the best. He's doing it now in Dallas.
McCarthy didn’t get pushed out he was fired because the Packers were suffering through back-to-back losing seasons with Aaron Rodgers as his QB. The Packers were 4-7-1 when he got the hook.
 
Messages
10,072
Reaction score
7,292
CowboysZone DIEHARD Fan
Mike McCarthy was pushed out the door at Green Bay because Aaron Rodgers wasn't happy with Mike, correct me if Im wrong.As time has moved on, Aaron the great has had a few chances to get back to the Superbowl. No excuses because he's had very good receivers and people around him to accomplish his goals. Aaron hasn't gotten back to the superbowl in Green Bay. Maybe we should give Mike McCarthy a chance. He's already proven he can compete with the best. He's doing it now in Dallas.
I neither like or dislike the guy, other than some real head-scratcher game-time gambles it's impossible to truly assess him because Jerry makes too many big decisions. Any time the freaking owner is choosing the coordinators and draft picks it's impossible to truly judge the coach. Yet the day will come when we run McCarthy out of town and half of the Cowboys faithful will cheer with glee thinking the next guy will do better.
 

Cowboy4ever

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,186
Reaction score
4,485
When was the last time Dallas made it to the playoffs two years in a row. And also, could it be that he had his hands tied by Jerry making him allow Moore to call the plays
Just excuses. His hands aren't tied by Jerry and if his are, then so was Garretts so doesnt' he get the benefit of the doubt if you want to go with that excuse. And any one that thinks that any OC has the power to do wahtever he wants willy nilly, inlcuding the game plan, and calling plays during the game is football stupid. The HC has his hands in it all. How do you know that Moore wasn't allowed to run the O he wanted due to McCarthy? Maybe McCarty said - I don't like pre snap motion so don't use it a lot. Or I want to run Zeke in the A gap 9 times this game, make it happen". We can all sit here and play the what if game but the bottom line is to this point in time McCarthy has been a failure for what he was brought in to do.
 

75boyz

Well-Known Member
Messages
8,686
Reaction score
10,536
Just excuses. His hands aren't tied by Jerry and if his are, then so was Garretts so doesnt' he get the benefit of the doubt if you want to go with that excuse. And any one that thinks that any OC has the power to do wahtever he wants willy nilly, inlcuding the game plan, and calling plays during the game is football stupid. The HC has his hands in it all. How do you know that Moore wasn't allowed to run the O he wanted due to McCarthy? Maybe McCarty said - I don't like pre snap motion so don't use it a lot. Or I want to run Zeke in the A gap 9 times this game, make it happen". We can all sit here and play the what if game but the bottom line is to this point in time McCarthy has been a failure for what he was brought in to do.
I can appreciate your unfiltered opinion here because I share it.
Nice job.
 

fivetwos

Well-Known Member
Messages
20,728
Reaction score
28,581
I neither like or dislike the guy, other than some real head-scratcher game-time gambles it's impossible to truly assess him because Jerry makes too many big decisions. Any time the freaking owner is choosing the coordinators and draft picks it's impossible to truly judge the coach. Yet the day will come when we run McCarthy out of town and half of the Cowboys faithful will cheer with glee thinking the next guy will do better.
This needs more likes.

Let’s go folks….
 

LatinMind

iPhotoshop
Messages
17,457
Reaction score
11,571
Mike McCarthy was pushed out the door at Green Bay because Aaron Rodgers wasn't happy with Mike, correct me if Im wrong.As time has moved on, Aaron the great has had a few chances to get back to the Superbowl. No excuses because he's had very good receivers and people around him to accomplish his goals. Aaron hasn't gotten back to the superbowl in Green Bay. Maybe we should give Mike McCarthy a chance. He's already proven he can compete with the best. He's doing it now in Dallas.
Packers have had 2 HOF qbs since 1992 30 yrs of hof qbs, got 2 sbs. Lol
 
Top