Glad JG is back, now HE OWES us a SB...

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His move along with Sproano, to interview during bye-week was MORE detrimental to our performance than what any player(s), injuries, etc did.
He pretty much was brought here with a "wink-wink" from JJ to be the HC in a year or 2. For him to run out, both then, AND again the MORNING after our loss makes me wonder about his gratitiude to JJ.
Remember, JJ took heat for what seemed at the time to be a desperate knee-jerk reaction when he hired JG as OC/poss HC last winter.
I hope BP, Ireland, Sporano totally *****-up the phins.
But JG better live at TS from here on out until he delivers the Big One.
I personally, am holding him largely accountable for what happened Sunday.
It was both he and Tony's units that F/U-ed.
 
Jersey;1911809 said:
His move along with Sproano, to interview during bye-week was MORE detrimental to our performance than what any player(s), injuries, etc did.
He pretty much was brought here with a "wink-wink" from JJ to be the HC in a year or 2. For him to run out, both then, AND again the MORNING after our loss makes me wonder about his gratitiude to JJ.
Remember, JJ took heat for what seemed at the time to be a desperate knee-jerk reaction when he hired JG as OC/poss HC last winter.
I hope BP, Ireland, Sporano totally *****-up the phins.
But JG better live at TS from here on out until he delivers the Big One.
I personally, am holding him largely accountable for what happened Sunday.
It was both he and Tony's units that F/U-ed.

Definitely. I mean, if Garrett didn't go to those interviews, he could have spent more time with Crayton, teaching him how to finish a route or catch a ball. He could have worked with Romo on throwing the ball away when you are outside the pocket, maybe go over the intentional grounding rule. Sparano could have spent more time with Gurode and work with him on his shotgun snaps. He could have been practicing with Flozell about how not to false start. He could have shown Davis how to hit someone late and not get a penalty called on him.

Their units may have let us down, but coaches can't block, throw, catch, or do anything ON the field. Could he have called different plays? Sure. But we all should know there aren't a lot of plays for 3rd and long.
 
jswalker1981;1911957 said:
Definitely. I mean, if Garrett didn't go to those interviews, he could have spent more time with Crayton, teaching him how to finish a route or catch a ball. He could have worked with Romo on throwing the ball away when you are outside the pocket, maybe go over the intentional grounding rule. Sparano could have spent more time with Gurode and work with him on his shotgun snaps. He could have been practicing with Flozell about how not to false start. He could have shown Davis how to hit someone late and not get a penalty called on him.

Their units may have let us down, but coaches can't block, throw, catch, or do anything ON the field. Could he have called different plays? Sure. But we all should know there aren't a lot of plays for 3rd and long.


Maybe the players weren't in position to do well because there wasn't proper preperation. I know Craytons drops are squarely on him, but the overall prep and concentration level may have been effected by these coaches being pre-ocupied with their interviews. There is no way that it had NO impact. Funny how we didn't play that bad as a whole all year. The fact that they interviewed also effects the players thinking about the future which would further distract their preperation and intensity. I know ultimately it falls on the players making plays, but I feel Garrett & Sproano had a major hand in this loss.
 
The players owe us a Super Bowl!! Maybe Hudson Houck's return can keep Flozell and Columbo from ruining drives with false start penalties! Or better yet, get Gurode to snap the ball out of the 'shotgun' properly! Forgive the rant everyone, but I'm still having a tough time watching NFL Network, Sportscenter, and NFL Live when they cover the NFC Championship. I cannot take 2 weeks of listening to Eli give those exciting, flambouyant interviews. Dude looks constipated!!
 
ELDudearino;1911854 said:
And better play calling...:mad:

Agreed. With the Giants selling out on the rush in the 2nd half don't understand why we didn't throw a screen to MB III or run some shorter crossing routs. Everything was pretty much deep it seemed like to me. However, if we could stay grounded for a second we have a FIRST year offensive coordinator and a 2 year starting QB. I would assume that the two will continue to get better and have some really special seasons in the future.
 
jswalker1981;1911957 said:
He could have worked with Romo on throwing the ball away when you are outside the pocket, maybe go over the intentional grounding rule. .


I aree with your premise, but on this point, Tony knew the intentional grounding rule, it was the ref who got it wrong. The NFL confirmed it was the wrong call a couple days ago
 
Why are the masses so down on the way Jason Garrett called the Playoff Game?

From a wider perspective, Terrell Owens was still not 100%, Terry Glenn was extremely rusty and Patrick Crayton, well you know how effective he was.

I believe Bob Sturm reiterated this point in his blog and stated that a source informed him that the Giants understood this and in the 2nd Half decided to bring more pressure.

Furthermore, if you just think about some of the missed opportunities, can you really blame Jason Garrett for that? Anthony Fasano drops a sure TD, which some contend Tony Romo was at fault for not throwing the ball a little bit more in front of him. Tony Romo also missed a wide open Terrell Owens for an easy TD. He was probably in shock that a guy that is usually doubled was so wide open.

Furthermore, Jason Garrett cannot force Patrick Crayton to catch the ball on the huge 3rd and 14 play. Unfortunately, the Offensive Coordinator can't prevent a receiver for giving up on his route, even when he has clearly beaten his man.

Was Jason Garrett's play calling perfect? No, for example, that draw play to Marion Barber on our last drive with only 1 Timeout was horrendous. But I don't think you can blame him for our loss.
 
mickgreen58;1912795 said:
Why are the masses so down on the way Jason Garrett called the Playoff Game?

From a wider perspective, Terrell Owens was still not 100%, Terry Glenn was extremely rusty and Patrick Crayton, well you know how effective he was.

I believe Bob Sturm reiterated this point in his blog and stated that a source informed him that the Giants understood this and in the 2nd Half decided to bring more pressure.

Once that became apparent, we really should have looked at making them pay for that with screens, or some sort of quick hitting patterns. Instead, we kept attacking downfield, and they made sure to cover up Barber in the flats. I think that is people's reasoning, there.

Furthermore, if you just think about some of the missed opportunities, can you really blame Jason Garrett for that? Anthony Fasano drops a sure TD, which some contend Tony Romo was at fault for not throwing the ball a little bit more in front of him.


Did someone actually contend that? The ball hit Fasano in the chest, even with the defender all over him. Fasano just didn't close the deal.

But I agree - there was so much screwing up on the field by the players, it's ridiculous to absolve them by tossing the nice, fuzzy blanket of "playcalling" or "gameplanning" out there to pin it on the coach.
 
mickgreen58;1912795 said:
Why are the masses so down on the way Jason Garrett called the Playoff Game?

From a wider perspective, Terrell Owens was still not 100%, Terry Glenn was extremely rusty and Patrick Crayton, well you know how effective he was.

I believe Bob Sturm reiterated this point in his blog and stated that a source informed him that the Giants understood this and in the 2nd Half decided to bring more pressure.

Furthermore, if you just think about some of the missed opportunities, can you really blame Jason Garrett for that? Anthony Fasano drops a sure TD, which some contend Tony Romo was at fault for not throwing the ball a little bit more in front of him. Tony Romo also missed a wide open Terrell Owens for an easy TD. He was probably in shock that a guy that is usually doubled was so wide open.

Furthermore, Jason Garrett cannot force Patrick Crayton to catch the ball on the huge 3rd and 14 play. Unfortunately, the Offensive Coordinator can't prevent a receiver for giving up on his route, even when he has clearly beaten his man.

Was Jason Garrett's play calling perfect? No, for example, that draw play to Marion Barber on our last drive with only 1 Timeout was horrendous. But I don't think you can blame him for our loss.

I agree the plays were there for the taking but the players have to execute the coach can't do that for them. I would even say the draw play was not a mistake, he knew the Giants would be coming hard on the pass rush and he took a chance to trying to sneak a draw in on that aggressive defensive front.
 
Doomsday101;1912801 said:
I agree the plays were there for the taking but the players have to execute the coach can't do that for them. I would even say the draw play was not a mistake, he knew the Giants would be coming hard on the pass rush and he took a chance to trying to sneak a draw in on that aggressive defensive front.

In that situtuation, I do not believe you take that risk. We only had 1 Timeout at that particular time because on a previous play, they gave Jason Witten forward progress, so we were forced to burn our 2nd to last timeout.

Furthermore, it is my contention that the horrendous play of the Offensive Line, along with the struggles in the Receiving Core, limited the play calling.
 
mickgreen58;1912813 said:
In that situtuation, I do not believe you take that risk. We only had 1 Timeout at that particular time because on a previous play, they gave Jason Witten forward progress, so we were forced to burn our 2nd to last timeout.

Furthermore, it is my contention that the horrendous play of the Offensive Line, along with the struggles in the Receiving Core, limited the play calling.

Dallas had the ball at the Giants 40 with a 1:50 on the clock, if Barber bust that for a big gainer then it pays off and the Witten play does not happen until after the attempted draw play.

1-10-NYG 48 (1:50) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass short left to 24-M.Barber to NYG 39 for 9 yards (26-D.Ware; 72-O.Umenyiora).
2-1-NYG 39 (1:50) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 24-M.Barber up the middle to NYG 40 for -1 yards (91-J.Tuck).
3-2-NYG 40 (1:50) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass short middle to 82-J.Witten to NYG 22 for 18 yards (25-R.McQuarters).
Timeout #1 by NYG at 00:31.
1-10-NYG 22 :)31) (Shotgun) PENALTY on DAL-75-M.Colombo, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at NYG 22 - No Play.
1-15-NYG 27 :)31) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass short left to 82-J.Witten to NYG 23 for 4 yards (28-G.Wilson).
Timeout #3 by DAL at 00:26.
2-11-NYG 23 :)26) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass incomplete short right to 82-J.Witten [72-O.Umenyiora]. Pass thrown sideline; incomplete at the New York 20.
3-11-NYG 23 :)21) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass incomplete deep right to 84-P.Crayton. Pass incomplete right corner of the end zone.
4-11-NYG 23 :)16) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass deep middle intended for 83-T.Glenn INTERCEPTED by 25-R.McQuarters at NYG -5. Touchba


Just my opinion it was not a bad call taking a chance on a draw play
 
Play calling was not as big an issue as execution by the players and the Fasano drop is a good example. Prior to the snap Witten seemed to be agitated about the formation (like Fasono lined up in his position on the line and Witten had to line up in the back field and stay in pass protection). After the drop Witten was visibly **ssed.

If JG is as smart as most of us seem to think he is there's no way you try to trick anyone that close to the goal line. You let the talent and chemistry of Romo and Witten get you six. If that was the way it was designed than you have to question the play call, but looking at the presnap allignment and player reaction I would say it was a mental mistake by a young player.
 

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