Glaring deficiency in offensive coaching

[BAT]

We all agree with out Dez our WRs often cannot beat DBs 1 on 1.

Why in the world do we not run more pick plays to free up our receivers like Patriots and Denver???!!!

Most Gronk's receptions against Jones came of pick plays. Put more pick plays in our playbook PLEASE.

Jerry said Cowboys learned from the Julio Jones whooping that Atlanta put on us. They also used a lot of pick plays. Same with the toothless Saints. Sounds like Jerry completely overestimated Garrett and Linehan.

 

[CyberB0b]

Yep.

I loved how the Seahawks defended it against the Broncos in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago.

That dominant Broncos offense used the pick play as a centerpiece to their offense and would mix in long shots down the field to Thomas.

The Seahawks spaced out their 3 linebackers about 5 yards off the line of scrimmage and brought in a safety to act as a 4th linebacker and used the old picket fence on them. They'd blast the receivers right off the line and then stay physical with them within the 5 yards disrupting the timing and if the ball was caught there was a defender right there to hit the receiver. They jammed Thomas and sent exotic blitzes at Manning and dominated them.

You can scheme a way to take away the quick pass to allow your edge rushers time to attack the QB. You can get creative with blitzes and coverage and play gambles. It's pretty evident that we don't do that hardly at all.

I'm not a professional football coach but its blatantly obvious how vanilla we are and that we don't make many adjustments and that is absolutely part of our problem.

It helps when you have a guy like Kam Chancellor lurking in the middle of the field. He dominated in that Super Bowl. We don't have a safety that smart or physical. They also had 3-4 huge, physical corners.

 

[Amy50632]

Jerry said Cowboys learned from the Julio Jones whooping that Atlanta put on us. They also used a lot of pick plays. Same with the toothless Saints. Sounds like Jerry completely overestimated Garrett and Linehan.

They are lost without Tony.

 

[dallasdave]

They are lost without Tony.

Weeden looks like a deer in the headlights !!

 

[Clarkson]

Why don't we just run the same plays that that all-time great QB and all-time great HC are running?
It's so simple!


/sssssssssssssss

 

[Chuck 54]

A "surprise onside kick"? For real?
Onside kicks aren't meant for "eh, let's try something new! i feel like I want an onside kick!"

It's worked in the super bowl twice to start a second half

 

[VACowboy]

ah you should call them up and tell them.
i mean, clearly you've got the answers.

I don't have all the answers, no, but I'm a savvy enough watcher of football to see that the Dallas offense does not use formations, movement, misdirection, route combos, etc, to help receivers succeed like lots of other offenses do. Garrett's offense is infamously vanilla. It's designed for great players so that they can go out and make great plays without having to think so much about what they're doing. And that's fine, until all your great players are on the bench watching great defensive players whip their replacements. Wouldn't you like to see TWill running more deep slants with Escobar digging underneath or Randle running free down the sideline on a wheel after Streets picks the LB off? How about boot action off outside zone plays to hold linebackers and safeties a tick and set up big gainers for later? No, I don't have all the answers, but there are tons of them out there that, unlike the most of the league, Dallas coaches aren't trying.

 

[CrownCowboy]

It helps when you have a guy like Kam Chancellor lurking in the middle of the field. He dominated in that Super Bowl. We don't have a safety that smart or physical. They also had 3-4 huge, physical corners.

Oh no doubt they had the personel.

I still think we have enough playmakers to atleast slow what has happened to us atleast somewhat down.

 

[btcutter]

Why don't we just run the same plays that that all-time great QB and all-time great HC are running?
It's so simple!


/sssssssssssssss

Why not? " Imitation is highest form of flattery"...... We can't even do that.

 

[CyberB0b]

Oh no doubt they had the personel.

I still think we have enough playmakers to atleast slow what has happened to us atleast somewhat down.

The offense getting a first down or scoring a touchdown would go a long way towards helping the defense out.

 

[CrownCowboy]

The offense getting a first down or scoring a touchdown would go a long way towards helping the defense out.

Yes it would.

The defense has come out of the gate playing pretty good with high energy.

This offense hasn't done anything to keep the defense off the field and it's apparent that the defense is out of gas even before the half.

 

[xwalker]

You could be right that the minute we do it it then get flagged 90% of the time.

I want to reload at the all-22. If you are in man the best way to disrupt a pick is really press at the line. Every time last week MO was playing press but gave a free release it was an easy completion. Seattle drew this blueprint up in the SB with Denver.

Yes, pressing at the line could disrupt the timing of the picks. I don't think it can totally prevent it but it could make it harder to run the pick plays. I think they tend to avoid pressing when they don't have help. I would try cheating the deep Safety to one side at times and giving the CBs on that side a go to press.

The switch-off or 2 man zone could also help and could lead to some picks, IMO.

On offense, at this point it definitely wouldn't hurt to try running more picks.

 

[slogriff]

I don't have all the answers, no, but I'm a savvy enough watcher of football to see that the Dallas offense does not use formations, movement, misdirection, route combos, etc, to help receivers succeed like lots of other offenses do. Garrett's offense is infamously vanilla. It's designed for great players so that they can go out and make great plays without having to think so much about what they're doing. And that's fine, until all your great players are on the bench watching great defensive players whip their replacements. Wouldn't you like to see TWill running more deep slants with Escobar digging underneath or Randle running free down the sideline on a wheel after Streets picks the LB off? How about boot action off outside zone plays to hold linebackers and safeties a tick and set up big gainers for later? No, I don't have all the answers, but there are tons of them out there that, unlike the most of the league, Dallas coaches aren't trying.

My thoughts exactly. I'm not asking for double reverse passes but my goodness can't we incorporate some basic misdirection or a simple route combo that may cause 2 DBs To accidentally leave a guy open. I was happy just to see a toss play. It didn't get much but helped the runner hit the corner a little quicker and was a different look.
Garrett's offense doesn't seem to present multiple problems to challenge and ultimately confuse defenses. I couldn't understand why he never used Dunbar as a receiver in previous years. This year for the first time we presented problems for defenses (primarily LBs) on how to handle RBs in the passing game. Previously, our minimal threat of a RB passing attack and a QB that scrambles but rarely runs downfield, greatly simplified how defenses could play us. We finally add an additional means to pressure defenses and he goes down. I hope Red doesn't abandon using our RBs in the passing attack. I guess I have nothing to fear if Weeden is playing.

 

[dallasdave]

First you need a QB, then...................................................

 

[DandyDon1722]

There is a strong possibility they just don't run pick or rub plays very well. Look at screens. We can't run them effectively either, probably because they are not practiced enough.

This whole post reminds me of a bad joke in reverse--

"Doc, it hurts when I do this." Doc, "Well don't do that."

Coach, pick plays work really well to free us up against defenses." Coach, "We'll let's do it."

 

[btcutter]

First you need a QB, then...................................................

no doubt but AZ did something with their 3rd string QB last yr.

 

[dallasdave]

no doubt but AZ did something with their 3rd string QB last yr.

Well Dallas will do something too, when Matt Cassel starts playing !