GMFB: How much credit does Dakota Prescott deserve for Cowboys win over Seahawks?

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  1. sjmike

    sjmike Active Member

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    Here, Here!!
     
  2. CowboysWillRise

    CowboysWillRise Well-Known Member

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    No he didnt. Sorry, I loved Romo but his playoff performances were not overly impressive by any means.
     
  3. PelvusBrestley

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    First off, what's with the personal attacks? I'm having a discussion with you in a Cowboys football forum while drinking my morning coffee. I have no emotional investment in whether you agree or disagree.

    Secondly, the fact is he ran the exact play two times in a row, threw a terrible ball followed with a beauty. Folks are saying it was 'Great'. If it takes two tries it's not GREAT. I'm not saying anything more than that.

    DVOA a statistic run across all QB in the league, I'll bet that number climbs significantly when only taking the top 10 QB's into account. Again this is all based around the 'GREAT' comments. Not only that, but DVOA is only taking into account a completion. An endzone Fade is not just about the reception it's also about the high probability of an interference call. The CB has little time to react and is at a severe disadvantage when the ball is thrown 'accurately'
     
  4. Brax

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    4% (120 plays/5 good plays)
     
  5. CowboysWillRise

    CowboysWillRise Well-Known Member

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    I guess Cooper's 100 yard game was meaningless as well because it was Dak throwing the ball?
     
  6. CowboysWillRise

    CowboysWillRise Well-Known Member

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    Half of them have already gone into hiding or had the good sense to realize what Dak is accomplishing and actually recognize hes playing better and better as the season goes on.
     
  7. Ring Leader

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    2 rings is my guess. Dak is still improving and who knows, he could eventually be even better than Romo (he's just not there yet). His potential is a huge unknown right now but I'm certainly pulling for him. If he can continue to develop we will be just fine. If he has hit or is even close to his ceiling, we're in trouble.
     
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  8. Blake

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    Funny how some can't possibly conceptualize/accept the idea that a young quarterback is capable of improving through time and repetition. Makes one wonder if their black and white world view is a projection of never having achieved anything worthwhile in their own lives.

    Saying that, Dak has to help get us through the divisional round to further dispel the narrative that these people wish to push. If he doesn't. I'll be sorely disappointed. The criticisms about accuracy and consistency being a problem aren't baseless. What is baseless however, is the over embellishing of his negative traits, that conveniently ignores the positive things Dak is doing. It's fine though, because we get to point and laugh when their stubborn, close minded opinions blow up in their faces.

    Yes, the holdovers are the stubborn ones, and boy are the a loud minority. Wouldn't expect any less though.
     
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  9. CowboyRoy

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    I can't say for sure whether that was designed or Dak chose to do it himself. I wouldnt bother speculating as you have done. Either way it was PI and although it probably would have been better to lead him more, it hit brown right in the chest. A better receiver catches that ball or puts up a better fight and gets the call.
     
  10. PelvusBrestley

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    I think I just misread the intent of your comment and 'speculated' that you were inferring that Cooper jumping up and down on the sideline when the ball was thrown to Brown was a bad play call. I reread your comment and see that you were commenting on the previous post as a whole. ;)
     
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  11. Colombiacowboy

    Colombiacowboy Well-Known Member

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    Wrong and late? Not really. I am simply pointing out a correlation to a past QB who was effective and successful, but not glamorous.
     
  12. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    In fact, Romo currently has the 12th highest playoff passer rating of all time (higher than both Mannings and Brady, to name a few) and a 4 to 1 playoff TD to interception ratio. This is why we go by what actually happened, instead of the hazy memory of beer gut fans.
    This is the point where you go to the fake QB winz stat on your Dak slobberer flowchart.
     
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  13. CowboysWillRise

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    Lol Im a fan of Romo, always have been. I've never been one to bash him and Im not going to do so now.

    But to pretend he was great in the playoffs is bs. So do stats count when they support Dak or only for Romo?

    Romo avg: 219 ypg 8 tds 2 ints rating 93
    Dak avg: 264 ypg 4 tds 2ints rating 94.1

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RomoTo00.htm

    Funny to accuse me of fake stats and beer gut memories when I actually take the time to provide links unlike yourself. I hope you can continue to enjoy watching Dak for the next decade. Guess what buddy, hes our QB and you cant do a damn thing about it lolololol
     
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  14. Blackrain

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    Its amazing how they let that piece of spit have that sig on a Cowboys site . He should be banned instead he is left to troll our site in what should be a time where all true Cowboy fans share the good time and camaraderie
     
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  15. Blackrain

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    Deserves got noting to do with it . Dak is an old school smash mouth football player the kind that isn't interested in padding his stats and getting credit from fans or the media . Dak uses what ever tools he has in his skill set to win AND HE DOSE WIN .

    Dak get the credit he needs from his teammates that he goes to battle with and that's all he needs . They feed off each other its all about team . Dak dose things that there is no stat for and no value assigned . He gets more out of his teammates than any QB since Roger because they know he will sacrifice his body what ever necessary to win . They do the same for him .

    This team wants to win a SB unlike teams of the past that worried more about making business decisions and celebrity status . It starts with Dak he is there leader and they have ultimate respect for his work ethic and values . Credit is overrated Wins are what matters.
     
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  16. BoysForLife

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    And yet, for his playoff career he threw 4 TD every INT he threw.

    Not to say that he didn't have any bad games. I'd call Minnesota in 2009 a bad game.
    But you don't have a 4:1 TD to INT ratio unless you're doing some things right.

    Just throwing that out there as a counter point to the "Romo was a TO machine in big games" narrative that often surfaces in these types of discussions.
     
  17. BoysForLife

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    Translation:

    A "better" receiver would have covered Dak's brainfart on that play. LOL
     
  18. CowboysWillRise

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    Sure but I wasn't promoting the TO machine in big games narrative. Looking through Romos playoff games I think he was much better in 2014 before that not so much.

    I was a fan of Romo and I am a fan of Dak. Its not really my intention to slight Romo when I say Dak compares favorably to Romo in the playoffs already at this young point in his career.
     
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  19. BoysForLife

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    Fair enough, and I didn't read your comments that way at all, FWIW.

    I just see a lot of the stuff on here from others (Romo "always" committed a slew of turnovers in playoffs, etc) and I was just throwing out my two bits.
    all good bro. Cowboys wins is what we are all after, I'm thinking.....:thumbup:
     
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