Go for it all this year; Tag and Trade Prescott next spring

[RustyBourneHorse]

Thats a hell of a way to start a fanhood. You deserve better brother. I really hope some of you younger fellas get a chance to experience success soon.

I know, right?

 

[Altestic]

Why would Trevor Lawrence play on a cheap rookie deal for 5 years if Zeke gets new contract two years early?

If Zeke is paid early, then every guy on a rookie contract will demand a new deal from the Cowboys the first year that they perform at a high level.

Quarterback vs. Running back.

No QB will ever do what Zeke does. QB knows they have a long shelf life and will get paid big, big money even if they lose a year to a torn ACL. Whereas a RB can suffer the same event and go from getting Gurley money to never seeing a significant payday in his whole life. Look at Alfred Morris. The dude didn't get injured or anything. He was a superstar his first 2 seasons with the Commanders and then they changed coaches and schemes and he was made the backup, so his production was schematically cut in half and he never got a real payday. He didn't even get injured, and it still happened. We're talking about a Pro Bowl NFL player in the 2010s who will likely have to work regular jobs after his NFL career, not due to injury but due to bad luck with coaching.

Such is the life of the NFL.

 

[Altestic]

I believe the bold is on about 30 NFL team sites. If you think the owner of the 1st pick is passing on Lawrence, think again.

Your entire plan hinges on a team giving up a 1st, and more, for Prescott, who wants a long term deal and top 5 QB money, instead of taking their chances on getting a top 10 QB.

No, it doesn't hinge on it. Even if you get a 2nd or 3rd it doesn't change the equation. You don't have to trade up for Lawrence. You start Rush/White and hope to artificially fall into the 1st overall that way, or you don't get 1st overall but you're still in the top 5 or so and the 1st overall team already has their long term franchise QB (but sucked due to injury, youth, bad coaching, and/or horrible roster around the QB... for example, the Jets and Darnold) and therefore is looking to trade down. Like the Titans in 2016.

As it stands right now, there aren't a ton of teams out there that would take a QB #1 overall given their current situation. Count them on one hand... Denver, Oakland, Tampa, Tennessee, Miami. Who else?

NFC West
-Seattle: Wilson long term, and too good to finish so low
-Arizona: Murray long term
-San Francisco: Garoppolo long term
-LA Rams: Goff long term; too good

NFC East
-Eagles: Wentz long term; too good
-Commanders: Haskins long term
-Giants: Jones long term

NFC South
-Saints: Too good
-Falcons: Ryan long term
-Panthers: Newton long term
-Bucs: Possibility

NFC North
-Vikings: Cousins long term; too good
-Lions: Stafford long term
-Packers: Rodgers; too good
-Bears: Trubisky long term; too good

AFC West
-Broncos: Possibility
-Raiders: Possibility
-Chiefs: Possibility... just kidding
-Chargers: Too good

AFC East
-Patriots: Too good, Brady or no Brady
-Bills: Allen long term
-Jets: Darnold long term
-Dolphins: Possibility

AFC South
-Texans: Watson long term
-Colts: Luck long term; too good
-Jaguars: Foles short term; Possibility long term
-Titans: Possibility

AFC North
-Steelers: Roethlisberger; too good
-Ravens: Jackson long term; too good
-Browns: Mayfield long term; too good
-Bengals: Possibility


That's 5-6 possibilities, but 2-3 of them will be filled up in the 2020 draft.

 

[PUSHfold]

You can sweep us all your want if we’re winning titles and you’re doing the same thing you e done for the last 23 years, then yeah knock yourself out.

In a way, we’ve become your super bowl. Funny how that’s worked out

Huh...you guys aren't winning "titles", you've won a SINGULAR title in your entire existence and barely scraped into the playoffs last year...haha.
Eagles fans man...what a joke you are.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Or he continues to be Alex Smith caliber bus driver and gets the franchise tag.

Dak isn't a bus driver. We are a run first team so to fans with little knowledge it may seem so but Dak has shown he can and is more than a bus driver.

 

[Whirlwin]

I find this so ridiculous. We don't even have a backup quarterback can you want to trade are starter. Even if we found someone else you keep him. Again ridiculous

 

[Whirlwin]

Dak isn't a bus driver. We are a run first team so to fans with little knowledge it may seem so but Dak has shown he can and is more than a bus driver.

They don't give him credit for beating the Ravens the Giants when we turned him loose. They don't realize it's a game plan it's what we do it's not what we have to do. So the entire franchise must be mentally challenged because they want to keep Prescott. can't believe how some people process

 

[Irvin88_4life]

No, it doesn't hinge on it. Even if you get a 2nd or 3rd it doesn't change the equation. You don't have to trade up for Lawrence. You start Rush/White and hope to artificially fall into the 1st overall that way, or you don't get 1st overall but you're still in the top 5 or so and the 1st overall team already has their long term franchise QB (but sucked due to injury, youth, bad coaching, and/or horrible roster around the QB... for example, the Jets and Darnold) and therefore is looking to trade down. Like the Titans in 2016.

As it stands right now, there aren't a ton of teams out there that would take a QB #1 overall given their current situation. Count them on one hand... Denver, Oakland, Tampa, Tennessee, Miami. Who else?

NFC West
-Seattle: Wilson long term, and too good to finish so low
-Arizona: Murray long term
-San Francisco: Garoppolo long term
-LA Rams: Goff long term; too good

NFC East
-Eagles: Wentz long term; too good
-Commanders: Haskins long term
-Giants: Jones long term

NFC South
-Saints: Too good
-Falcons: Ryan long term
-Panthers: Newton long term
-Bucs: Possibility

NFC North
-Vikings: Cousins long term; too good
-Lions: Stafford long term
-Packers: Rodgers; too good
-Bears: Trubisky long term; too good

AFC West
-Broncos: Possibility
-Raiders: Possibility
-Chiefs: Possibility... just kidding
-Chargers: Too good

AFC East
-Patriots: Too good, Brady or no Brady
-Bills: Allen long term
-Jets: Darnold long term
-Dolphins: Possibility

AFC South
-Texans: Watson long term
-Colts: Luck long term; too good
-Jaguars: Foles short term; Possibility long term
-Titans: Possibility

AFC North
-Steelers: Roethlisberger; too good
-Ravens: Jackson long term; too good
-Browns: Mayfield long term; too good
-Bengals: Possibility


That's 5-6 possibilities, but 2-3 of them will be filled up in the 2020 draft.

The fact you think getting rid of Dak and playing White or Rush is a good idea shows how little you know. If the Cowboys are a playoff team and only has winning records with Dak and all you change is QB to get a top 5 pick than QB isn't the problem. Why the hell you going to get rid of your franchise QB for a rookie that might develop into a starter. This idea to get rid of Dak and wait 3 years for a rookie is the dumbest crap I have ever seen. You Dak haters are getting nervous and jumping as fast as you can to get rid of Dak. It's not going to work.

Dak will be a Dallas Cowboy for life, get use to it because it's going at least a decade. So sit back and relax and get on the Dak train you filthy haters

 

[Whirlwin]

If you have a top defense, top O-line, and Ezekiel Elliot, there’s no possible way to lose more then 10 games regardless of how bad your QB is.

Ridiculous statement and anybody who gave you a like isn't thinking correctly.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

They don't give him credit for beating the Ravens the Giants when we turned him loose. They don't realize it's a game plan it's what we do it's not what we have to do. So the entire franchise must be mentally challenged because they want to keep Prescott. can't believe how some people process

The fact they want to trade Dak and play Rush or White too get a top 5 pick tells you that Dak isn't the problem. Same team and only thing changes is QB..... Kind of like 15 season when they went 4-12 and then Dak shows up and wins 13 games. It's beyond stupid

 

[CouchCoach]

No, it doesn't hinge on it. Even if you get a 2nd or 3rd it doesn't change the equation. You don't have to trade up for Lawrence. You start Rush/White and hope to artificially fall into the 1st overall that way, or you don't get 1st overall but you're still in the top 5 or so and the 1st overall team already has their long term franchise QB (but sucked due to injury, youth, bad coaching, and/or horrible roster around the QB... for example, the Jets and Darnold) and therefore is looking to trade down. Like the Titans in 2016.

As it stands right now, there aren't a ton of teams out there that would take a QB #1 overall given their current situation. Count them on one hand... Denver, Oakland, Tampa, Tennessee, Miami. Who else?

NFC West
-Seattle: Wilson long term, and too good to finish so low
-Arizona: Murray long term
-San Francisco: Garoppolo long term
-LA Rams: Goff long term; too good

NFC East
-Eagles: Wentz long term; too good
-Commanders: Haskins long term
-Giants: Jones long term

NFC South
-Saints: Too good
-Falcons: Ryan long term
-Panthers: Newton long term
-Bucs: Possibility

NFC North
-Vikings: Cousins long term; too good
-Lions: Stafford long term
-Packers: Rodgers; too good
-Bears: Trubisky long term; too good

AFC West
-Broncos: Possibility
-Raiders: Possibility
-Chiefs: Possibility... just kidding
-Chargers: Too good

AFC East
-Patriots: Too good, Brady or no Brady
-Bills: Allen long term
-Jets: Darnold long term
-Dolphins: Possibility

AFC South
-Texans: Watson long term
-Colts: Luck long term; too good
-Jaguars: Foles short term; Possibility long term
-Titans: Possibility

AFC North
-Steelers: Roethlisberger; too good
-Ravens: Jackson long term; too good
-Browns: Mayfield long term; too good
-Bengals: Possibility


That's 5-6 possibilities, but 2-3 of them will be filled up in the 2020 draft.

Would you have put Rosen at long term for the Cards if they hadn't traded him after one year? Mainly because they just took a QB but did that really matter? Any team that has a QB on his first contract would be stupid not to take Lawrence unless they do not feel he's an upgrade and other CLE what team from last season feels that way? The other thing to consider is if a QB like Prescott can get 33-34M, what might their QB want when he's up?

If Lawrence is this generational QB that most believe, and I have no reason to dispute that, he is just outstanding and better than Manning was as a senior. The team with the #1 pick is not passing on him and they will trade their present QB or let Lawrence clipboard it for a year.

One thing the smart teams have learned, they get the next guy before the current guy leaves and that is going to increase with the crazy QB salaries. Unless he stumbles a lot, Lawrence is going to be the biggest plum in the draft in many years.

Any GM with that #1 has to ask himself, have I got my guy and is the potential of Lawrence better than my guy and could Lawrence end up in my division? Add in the fan fervor over this kid if their team has a shot at him and a GM is on the spot.

 

[conner01]

Sign Zeke. 14.5M/year, all the guaranteed money in the first 3 years.

Sign Cooper. 18M/year range.

March 2020: Tag and Trade Prescott. Some team without a longterm QB will inevitably go 7-9 (thus be out of the running for Tua/Herbert) and trade a 1st and 3rd (or better) for Prescott before the 2020 draft.

Re-sign Jaylon Smith and Byron Jones at market value. Consider extending a guy like Awuzie if he balls out.

In 2020, Draft heavy on defense in the secondary and Dline, especially in the early rounds.

Roll with Rush and White as your starting QBs for the 2020 season. Don't bring in a has-been like a Fitzpatrick or Bradford type. See what the young guys have.

Ideally, have the best defense in the NFL and still go around 3-13 in 2020 due to bad QB play. 2015 season redux, without the promising start and the glimmers of hope from Romo "when will he return"?

April 2021: Draft Trevor Lawrence.

Have the best young QB in the league on a rookie deal, the best offensive line in football, the best defense in football, and the best running back in football... plus a top 5 WR in Cooper and another stud in Gallup out there. Perfect situation for the most surefire QB prospect to come out since Peyton Manning.

Open up a new 5+ year window at the top of the hill with a top 5 QB on a rookie contract.

BINGO!!!!!

 

[408Cowboy]

All aboard.....

That's how you was picked up for school? No wonder you're mad.

 

[Altestic]

Would you have put Rosen at long term for the Cards if they hadn't traded him after one year? Mainly because they just took a QB but did that really matter? Any team that has a QB on his first contract would be stupid not to take Lawrence unless they do not feel he's an upgrade and other CLE what team from last season feels that way? The other thing to consider is if a QB like Prescott can get 33-34M, what might their QB want when he's up?

If Lawrence is this generational QB that most believe, and I have no reason to dispute that, he is just outstanding and better than Manning was as a senior. The team with the #1 pick is not passing on him and they will trade their present QB or let Lawrence clipboard it for a year.

One thing the smart teams have learned, they get the next guy before the current guy leaves and that is going to increase with the crazy QB salaries. Unless he stumbles a lot, Lawrence is going to be the biggest plum in the draft in many years.

Any GM with that #1 has to ask himself, have I got my guy and is the potential of Lawrence better than my guy and could Lawrence end up in my division? Add in the fan fervor over this kid if their team has a shot at him and a GM is on the spot.

What about the team that is maybe a defensive player away from a SB but they fell that far down due to their star QB going down with an ACL in week 2? Like Mahomes Chiefs for instance.

 

[Whirlwin]

All aboard.....

I told you come for the ride, you'll like it. Go Prescott go Cowboys

 

[CouchCoach]

What about the team that is maybe a defensive player away from a SB but they fell that far down due to their star QB going down with an ACL in week 2? Like Mahomes Chiefs for instance.

If I have Mahomes with an ACL, I am still taking Lawrence. I can always trade one of them like the Cowboys did with Morton-Staubach.

And if the Chiefs ended up with the 1st pick, think they would want LAC, OAK or DEN getting Lawrence? They could control where he goes, if they wanted to stay with Mahomes but I am not sure Lawrence isn't a better QB than Mahomes. Mahomes would be some fine trade bait and his 4th year will be 2020.

 

[JeffAtl]

Quarterback vs. Running back.

No QB will ever do what Zeke does. QB knows they have a long shelf life and will get paid big, big money even if they lose a year to a torn ACL.

Why would a QB decide to willingly pass up on 3 or 4 years at $35M/yr if he (and his agent) knows that the owner will cave and not make him play out his rookie deal? That is over $100M total. Getting paid big on a first contract doesn't preclude getting an even bigger second one.

The Cowboys are setting a precedent with paying Zeke early. That precedent may be contained to the Cowboys or may infect the league as a whole.

Regardless, after paying Zeke early, the Cowboys will never again reap the benefits of a "cheap rookie contact".

 

[Altestic]

If I have Mahomes with an ACL, I am still taking Lawrence. I can always trade one of them like the Cowboys did with Morton-Staubach.

And if the Chiefs ended up with the 1st pick, think they would want LAC, OAK or DEN getting Lawrence? They could control where he goes, if they wanted to stay with Mahomes but I am not sure Lawrence isn't a better QB than Mahomes. Mahomes would be some fine trade bait and his 4th year will be 2020.

Mahomes will have already been paid above-record 9 figure guarantees by then, and he would have been their franchise QB for 4 years, with that chemistry and everything, they would be downright stupid to consider Lawrence or any other QB... do you honestly know what you're talking about?

 

[landryscorner]

Sign Zeke. 14.5M/year, all the guaranteed money in the first 3 years.

Sign Cooper. 18M/year range.

March 2020: Tag and Trade Prescott. Some team without a longterm QB will inevitably go 7-9 (thus be out of the running for Tua/Herbert) and trade a 1st and 3rd (or better) for Prescott before the 2020 draft.

Re-sign Jaylon Smith and Byron Jones at market value. Consider extending a guy like Awuzie if he balls out.

In 2020, Draft heavy on defense in the secondary and Dline, especially in the early rounds.

Roll with Rush and White as your starting QBs for the 2020 season. Don't bring in a has-been like a Fitzpatrick or Bradford type. See what the young guys have.

Ideally, have the best defense in the NFL and still go around 3-13 in 2020 due to bad QB play. 2015 season redux, without the promising start and the glimmers of hope from Romo "when will he return"?

April 2021: Draft Trevor Lawrence.

Have the best young QB in the league on a rookie deal, the best offensive line in football, the best defense in football, and the best running back in football... plus a top 5 WR in Cooper and another stud in Gallup out there. Perfect situation for the most surefire QB prospect to come out since Peyton Manning.

Open up a new 5+ year window at the top of the hill with a top 5 QB on a rookie contract.

BINGO!!!!!

Daks not good enough to receive this kind of money let him walk.....