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Irvin88_4life

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Personally I would wait until next year to grab RB. Roll with McFadden, Turbin and a FA. Might could get Doug Martin or Lamar Miller. .... (might)

Reason I say next year is because of Elijah Hood from UNC. Now he is only a sophomore so he might not declare next season but would love to have hood behind our OL.

That being said if Elliot is there and best player on the board and no trade back I have no problem taking him. I want talented football players with a hunger to win. Pick any position not including TE, and take him. All levels on this football team need to improve. ......ALL.

You say to me OL is set, I don't think so. We need a RT. If that means moving Collins there and drafting another LG then do it. Free is not the answer there and teams know he struggles. Secondary, LBer, DL, WR, QB, RB all need players
 

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Teams that select in the top 5 don't usually have top notch QB'S already on their roster. They HAVE to play bc there is no one else. Simple logic, really. This is a silly excuse not to take a QB. Sitting behind Romo would only benefit a young QB.

That wasn't my point. I said nothing about us not taking the QB at that position anyway. I asked when was the last time a top 5 player did not immediately come on the field that next season. It's rare for a reason. You will basically pay a player top 5 rookie money to sit on the bench to learn for what could be 2-3 years.
 
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What makes anyone think he will sit behind Romo for long? Just because Jerry says Tony can play 5 more years doesn't make it so. I don't see Romo playing 16 games in a season again. It's likely he will be out for an extended period, thus the rookie gets his chance.

I don't think we will have Romo for 5 more years either nor do I really think they believed that he would play the full life of the contract anyway when they signed him in 2013. But can I see 2 or 3 more years, certainly. Once again, I would not object on getting a QB in the top 5. It would to me be a first to have that QB sit behind 2 or 3 years waiting for his chance to start when top 5 draft picks usually play significant snaps immediately barring injury.
 

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The fact that we had a chance to win 6 of the 7/games without Romo disspells your lie. We lost, but we had a chance. And this without a ST and Def TD Romo benefitted.
Give Cassel or Weeden anyone of those and we win a couple. But I'll let you believe every game without Romo was a blowout!

Lets see which QBs have won their starts this year.................hmmm

Weeden 0-3

Cassel 0-4

Romo 3-1


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Dez doesn't get taken out by CB's that use good technique. He's constantly doubled with safety help over the top. Teams will try to take away the slant and Garrett doesn't know how to use him to create some mismatches. Instead, we use Dez more to be a decoy and shift Williams and Beasley into favorable matchups.

As Louis Riddick said, you can't be worse at exploiting Dez to your advantage as the Cowboys do.





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Julio Jones and Antonio Brown. These are guys who have amazing, God given ability. Does that stop their teams from working as hard as possible to exploit that talent?

I feel like the only time Dez has these big games is when he's getting single covered. Want to take away the biggest threat on the Cowboys? Shade a safety to Dez's side. Done. Just thinking about it ****** me off.
 

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I don't think we will have Romo for 5 more years either nor do I really think they believed that he would play the full life of the contract anyway when they signed him in 2013. But can I see 2 or 3 more years, certainly. Once again, I would not object on getting a QB in the top 5. It would to me be a first to have that QB sit behind 2 or 3 years waiting for his chance to start when top 5 draft picks usually play significant snaps immediately barring injury.

Thats because teams picking top 5 usually don't have a Franchise QB in place already. They also tend to have coaches with very little job security who can't afford to develop a rookie QB behind a Christian Ponder for 2 years.

You have several factors here that would more than justify having a high pick at QB sit. Tony probably has two more years, but is still playing well enough to let him sit. They also will have a high enough pick to draft his potential replacement. Then you have Garrett who is A) not going to rush to start a rookie QB over Romo and B) secure enough to actually let him develop.

I'm not sure you can compare what the Browns, Raiders, Vikings, Jaguars, Titans or Bucs have done because they didn't have a franchise QB starting his farewell tour or a coach with job security to let them sit.
 

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I think we're in a pretty enviable position going into the draft as far as QB goes. We can afford to draft a guy and let him sit behind a real student of the game in Romo. Even if the guy ends up sitting 3 years or something, Romo isn't going to play 16 games a year for the next 3 years. He'll get time to play. Plus, he'll get Wednesday practices with the first team pretty much from the time he becomes the #2. That's huge.
 

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Dez doesn't get taken out by CB's that use good technique. He's constantly doubled with safety help over the top. Teams will try to take away the slant and Garrett doesn't know how to use him to create some mismatches. Instead, we use Dez more to be a decoy and shift Williams and Beasley into favorable matchups.

As Louis Riddick said, you can't be worse at exploiting Dez to your advantage as the Cowboys do.





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You want to move Dez around the formation and dictate matchups. They started doing that last year running some nifty drags out of the slot and the like; they got a TD on a flag route from there against the Dolphins and Dez said it was all the coaches. That's not all on the coaches. Dez has to learn the other positions and the story on him for awhile was he only knew how to play flanker. I'm still not convinced he is mentally prepared to be played that dynamically. Option routes still seem an adventure.

Dez may take himself out.
 

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You want to move Dez around the formation and dictate matchups. They started doing that last year running some nifty drags out of the slot and the like; they got a TD on a flag route from there against the Dolphins and Dez said it was all the coaches. That's not all on the coaches. Dez has to learn the other positions and the story on him for awhile was he only knew how to play flanker. I'm still not convinced he is mentally prepared to be played that dynamically. Option routes still seem an adventure.

Dez may take himself out.

According to reports, they don't want to move to the slot because they don't want to have a linebacker with a safety over the top on Dez and then have Beasley on the outside where granted...Beasley isn't as effective. I think it's ridiculous.

Again, Dez ain't the problem. He does option routes just fine. As Louis Riddick said, we simply just don't exploit him much. We are more content to use him more as a decoy.




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That wasn't my point. I said nothing about us not taking the QB at that position anyway. I asked when was the last time a top 5 player did not immediately come on the field that next season. It's rare for a reason. You will basically pay a player top 5 rookie money to sit on the bench to learn for what could be 2-3 years.

It's rare because teams that select in the top 5 don't have quarterbacks. That's why they are picking in the top 5 in the first place. These rookies are forced to play immediately. It has nothing to do with money. Tony could have 2 years or 2 games left. We don't know. That's no reason not to take a franchise changing QB if one is available.
 

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According to reports, they don't want to move to the slot because they don't want to have a linebacker with a safety over the top on Dez and then have Beasley on the outside where granted...Beasley isn't as effective. I think it's ridiculous.

Again, Dez ain't the problem. He does option routes just fine. As Louis Riddick said, we simply just don't exploit him much. We are more content to use him more as a decoy.




YR

I just gave two instances where they did what you say they don't. Again, I know for a fact taht the story on Dez being limited in his route tree and positionally his first three years is well publicized. I think you have to take playcalling declarations with a big ole hunk of salt unless its the last game of the year.

At least some of it is Dez's fault. He doesn't get a pass cause it takes him 4 years to learn his position.
 

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Lets see which QBs have won their starts this year.................hmmm

Weeden 0-3

Cassel 0-4

Romo 3-1


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Didn't you say we didn't have a CHANCE to win? So lets recount Romos fortunes in said 3 wins
NYG: 2 INTS, bone head play by Eli not taking sack
Philly: led the offense to 6 points, got a ST TD and Weeden cleaned up his mess
Miami: 2 more fumbduck Ints, Def TD, DEF responsible directly for 10 points

What did Romo actually do to WIN those games for us?! Outside of benefitting from others making plays to HELP win a team game.

Again, pretend we were blown out every game w/out Romo and blew everyone out with him. It didn't happen. 5 TDS vs 8 TOs should tell you Romo was more of a problem than solution in our wins and definitely in his 1 loss.
 

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Didn't you say we didn't have a CHANCE to win? So lets recount Romos fortunes in said 3 wins
NYG: 2 INTS, bone head play by Eli not taking sack
Philly: led the offense to 6 points, got a ST TD and Weeden cleaned up his mess
Miami: 2 more fumbduck Ints, Def TD, DEF responsible directly for 10 points

What did Romo actually do to WIN those games for us?! Outside of benefitting from others making plays to HELP win a team game.

Again, pretend we were blown out every game w/out Romo and blew everyone out with him. It didn't happen. 5 TDS vs 8 TOs should tell you Romo was more of a problem than solution in our wins and definitely in his 1 loss.

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