Going Into the Season, What is your Confidence level in Garrett?

[KJJ]

Maybe Jerry's finally learning something.

He's learning that if he's going to continue undermining his HC's hiring new ones every few years isn't going to change anything.

 

[Hoov]

Im suprised that so many people have such polar opposites views and perceptions of Garrett.

I dont have any problem with people having and expressing different oppinions from myself about him or other coaches/players. It is normal for people to have their favories and their likes/dislikes or different coaches/players for any number of reasons.

But concerning Garrett it seems to be beyond what i would consider a "normal bell curve" of reactions so to speak.

On anything he says or does the same statement or interview can be taken two completely opposite ways. Some see him as a puppet while others see him as totally in control and building HIS team. Some see him as this befuddled goofball who does not know what the heck he is doing and others see him as a a strong, confident man who knows what it takes to be a successful head coach in the NFL. Is he smug and coccky with his interviews feeding us BS over and over again about "the process" or is he a master at setting boundries and sticking to them, knowing how much to share and what to withold despite how much people push to get more from him.

I'm just suprised how his statements and actions are taken and inferred to such opposing points over and over again.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

You said, he won't be involved, I showed he is deeply involved (especially in the game plan which determines the play calling), and I'm the one spinning? That's rich.

Why not just admit you blathered without thinking? It'd be a lot easier to swallow with your crow.

I was referring to Callahan taking over the play calling duties. He won't be involved as far as having play calling duties as much or in crucial situations like last year. Those have been given to Callahan, because Garrett has proven he can't handle those duties.

Jason will be a sideline puppet. But I'm thankful for that. The less involved he is, the better.

 

[Hostile]

I was referring to Callahan taking over the play calling duties. He won't be involved as far as having play calling duties as much or in crucial situations like last year. Those have been given to Callahan, because Garrett has proven he can't handle those duties.

Jason will be a sideline puppet. But I'm thankful for that. The less involved he is, the better.

It doesn't matter what you were referring to if you were wrong no matter which way you try to defend it.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I'm just curious. Who is calling plays in the games this year? Or who is the primary play caller? I mean, let's not dance around the issue. Tell us, Hos. We want to see how delusional you can be.

 

[Hostile]

I'm just curious. Who is calling plays in the games this year? Or who is the primary play caller? I mean, let's not dance around the issue. Tell us, Hos. We want to see how delusional you can be.

This is what I responded to.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/goin...e-level-in-garrett.259155/page-6#post-5135773

"He's not involved..."

Wrong.

My direct reply was "Actually, he's very involved." Anything beyond that is you trying desperately to spin control what you meant. It doesn't matter what you meant. You were wrong.

The only dancing is you trying to save face from making a very uninformed, silly comment. The reason your neck hurts isn't because of my high horse, it's because you duh slapped your head so hard you've got whiplash.

 

[jobberone]

You said, he won't be involved, I showed he is deeply involved (especially in the game plan which determines the play calling), and I'm the one spinning? That's rich.

Why not just admit you blathered without thinking? It'd be a lot easier to swallow with your crow.

Interesting avatar.

I agree, Hos. For others this is Garrett's offense. They all decide how to play the next opponent with Callahan and Garrett with the most input but Kiffin, Marinelli, Romo, the QB and RB coaches, quality control, and the janitor all have a say. Besides this Brown/Gillman/Coryell/Zampese/Gibbs/Turner vertical offense is not new to name a few. This is Garrett's variation and he's gotten input from Cameron, Martz, Hannihan, and others whether working under them or their proteges. Calling the plays is not even half the offense albeit important. There's nothing magical about the vertical offense. It's just gets tweaked and evolves and grows by innovations much of which is driven by the defenses thrown at them.

 

[junk]

Im suprised that so many people have such polar opposites views and perceptions of Garrett.

I dont have any problem with people having and expressing different oppinions from myself about him or other coaches/players. It is normal for people to have their favories and their likes/dislikes or different coaches/players for any number of reasons.

But concerning Garrett it seems to be beyond what i would consider a "normal bell curve" of reactions so to speak.

On anything he says or does the same statement or interview can be taken two completely opposite ways. Some see him as a puppet while others see him as totally in control and building HIS team. Some see him as this befuddled goofball who does not know what the heck he is doing and others see him as a a strong, confident man who knows what it takes to be a successful head coach in the NFL. Is he smug and coccky with his interviews feeding us BS over and over again about "the process" or is he a master at setting boundries and sticking to them, knowing how much to share and what to withold despite how much people push to get more from him.

I'm just suprised how his statements and actions are taken and inferred to such opposing points over and over again.

I definitely think he's better suited as a HC than a HC/OC or even just an OC. He's been very average as an OC and I'm glad his play calling duties were taken away from him this year.

I think people see different things because they want to see different things. I think people are desperate for a strong HC because that is the best chance to bring the team back to prominence, because they've painted themselves into a corner touting him or because he sounds like a HC when he speaks (I think the media falls into this category). So they see a strong HC. Other people have been following the team for years and don't see anything from Garrett that makes them think he's suddenly righting the ship. His performance is about the same as the team has been, in general, since the Super Bowls years. Average without playoff wins and a poor performance in crunch time.

He's green....there is no doubt about that. Taking some things off his plate should help. Having an owner/GM undermining him won't.

 

[Hostile]

Interesting avatar.

I hate it, but it's better than the one of Rowdy that someone stuck on there.

 

[SportsGuru80]

He is a solid head coach. I think he did the right thing by giving up the play-calling duties because that will in turn allow him to focus on being a complete head coach.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

He cant be worse but I still question his actual football IQ. Even as a walk-around coach I dont trust he knows the best thing to do in a given scenario The Cowboys are a reactionary team. Something has to get broke before its addressed

 

[Verdict]

I think based on where the team seems to be headed ..... About an 8.25. He is at least headed in the right direction. He seems to be building the team a lot like Parcells did but without the need to bring in Parcells guys off of the scrap heap.

 

[KJJ]

I'll reserve my opinion for later to give others a chance to express their opinion without feeling pressured to agree or disagree with the OP.

That seems to be your MO.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

That seems to be your MO.

You noticed.

 

[KJJ]

You noticed.

At least you're consistent.