Good Bye Wade????

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Pretty much sealed his fate last night???? Probably Jason also....I know we still have a chance, and if that chance presents itself next week and we win at Philly and get in, I guess I will be no diffrent than most, all pumped and ready for the playoffs...regardless, we either have poor leadership at the top, or overrated players, heck maybe a combo of both....but the bottom line is that this team is better that what is being shown, I believe a new voiced is needed and last nights debacle on closing night, sealed that decesion....JJ must be furious at the team and coaches, embarrassed on NFL TV no less.....JJ thought this team was SB ready, everyone did, fans and media alike....total failure on coaches and players.....change is coming????

While I will root for the win next week and a playoff run, I still want a new voice, the question begs who though????? Cowher, Holmgren???? Meyer, Stoops, Carroll???? Spagnuolo, Shwartz, LeBeau???? Time of year JJ gets busy..
 

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All along I have wanted Cowher. I'm going to keep it simple... Start with throwing whatever it takes at Cowher to get him here. Then let him pick his coordinators and shop for the groceries.
 

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Unless Jerry goes Dan Snyder on us I doubt he'll fire Wade.

I know the fans would like to fire the coach everytime there is a bad season but thats just not realistic.
 

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CATCH17;2513137 said:
Unless Jerry goes Dan Snyder on us I doubt he'll fire Wade.

I know the fans would like to fire the coach everytime there is a bad season but thats just not realistic.

If Wade refuses to let Bruce and Stewart go then he needs to go and you can't tell me Jerry is not fuming right now. I don't know how you can think Wade is safe.
 

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Bleu Star;2513136 said:
All along I have wanted Cowher. I'm going to keep it simple... Start with throwing whatever it takes at Cowher to get him here. Then let him pick his coordinators and shop for the groceries.

In all the many times that some team has brought in a retired/retreaded coach- how many times has that worked out well and why the world would anyone think that Cowher is the one to break that cycle?
 

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I have always been and will always be on the bandwagon that at this point, given who might actually be available, that the only guy I really want to see Wade replaced with is Bill Cowher. If Jerry can make that happen I'd be thrilled.

If not then I dont know of any one else I'd rather see here right now, maybe Mike but I'm not sold on that one.
 

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bad season is an understatement for this season considering we went backwards with supposedly more talent this year..conclusion?? out coaches suck
 

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5Countem5;2513143 said:
In all the many times that some team has brought in a retired/retreaded coach- how many times has that worked out well and why the world would anyone think that Cowher is the one to break that cycle?

He has a proven track record of getting his teams into the playoffs. They never limped in. They went in and made some noise. I'll take that over what we have right now pronto.
 

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HomeOfLegends;2513139 said:
If Wade refuses to let Bruce and Stewart go then he needs to go and you can't tell me Jerry is not fuming right now. I don't know how you can think Wade is safe.

Because Wade was brought here to get this defense playing at a high level.

I realise they gave up 2 big runs at the end but for the most part this defense is playing better than they ever have.

Even under Parcells.

The last thing we need to do is bring in a new scheme on defense and start over.
 

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Bleu Star;2513151 said:
He has a proven track record of getting his teams into the playoffs. They never limped in. They went in and made some noise. I'll take that over what we have right now pronto.

How'd that work out for Lombardi? Joe Gibbs? Jimmy J? Ditka?


Vermeil is the only success that comes to my mind- it seems your plan is usually a humongous flop...
 

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5Countem5;2513157 said:
How'd that work out for Lombardi? Joe Gibbs? Jimmy J? Ditka?


Vermeil is the only success that comes to my mind- it seems your plan is usually a humongous flop...

How's this working out for us right now?
 

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landryscorner;2513150 said:
bad season is an understatement for this season considering we went backwards with supposedly more talent this year..conclusion?? out coaches suck

That and not having a backup Quarterback.

There is a fine line in this league. We could just as easily be the #1 seed going into the playoffs as on the outside looking in as we are now.

A play here and a play there and everything changes.

Losing Romo for that stretch and not having anyone behind him really hurt us long term.
 

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Jerry basically absolved Wade of everything last night, so the point is moot.
 

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Bleu Star;2513160 said:
How's this working out for us right now?

LOL

Good point - if this is your benchmark. I'd rather hire an up and comer.

Cowher is no different than any retread.
 

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5Countem5;2513169 said:
LOL

Good point - if this is your benchmark. I'd rather hire an up and comer.

Cowher is no different than any retread.

Well at least we can both agree that we want a replacement for Wade. I don't expect to agree with you on who that should be....
 
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Jerry is the problem. Hes a cancer. Hes a media hoe, hes a drama hoe and hes a credit hoe. He caters and babies the star players. He undermines his coaches. His ego is over the top. And they can change coach after coach, player after player and qb after qb.; and it will never change.
 

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I don't think Jerry will fire Wade. He has said as much.

I think this is what will happen:

Wade will stay, but Wade will want to can Garrett and bring in an offensive expert to be OC and fix the offense. Jerry agrees, but says if he brings that guy in then his friend Read must go and Stewart must take a reduced role.

Read leaves. Stewart will take a reduced role in light of how well the defense had responded with Wade calling plays. If he does not take the reduce role, they will allow him to look elsewhere.

Norv will be let go in SD. He will come back to Dallas to work with the offense, that helps Jerry with his comfort level too. Garrett be handed the same fate as Stewart; either take a reduced role or leave. More than likely he will be let go. Paying 3 mill for a guy that's basically one step above a position coach is too much.
 

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Bleu Star;2513172 said:
Well at least we can both agree that we want a replacement for Wade. I don't expect to agree with you on who that should be....

I wasn't looking for an agreement just wondering why so many think Cowher will buck the system and be successful when no (except Vermeil) retreaded coaches are? Is he that special? Is his 1 Super Bowl win in 15 years so impressive that he WILL surely win another?

I just don't understand the fascination with him. If he was coach of Dallas and the Cowboys played like his first SB team did, he would still be picking the tar-and-feathers off himself...
 
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