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Draegerman;3248712 said:
PS: Cowboys won in spite of Wade. What do you think of that?

Considering he is also the DC, does the defensive game plans and calls the defensive plays. To then think we won in spite of him when the defense had a huge hand in our overall record is pretty stupid wouldnt you agree?

We won in spite of Barry Switzer in 94, 95 and 96. He had no real role with the team. e didnt do anything to help or hurt the team on game days. Wade on the other hand has a role and definitely has a big impact on the teams success.
 

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Draegerman;3248712 said:
Is that the best you got? I was able to eat dinner and then come back to answer your question.

I'm just glad it was an easy one.

PS: Cowboys won in spite of Wade. What do you think of that?

actually, NICE try, but you failed to properly read the directions..a coach that was given only 3 years with said franchise. Tony Dungy was in TB from 96-01. Once Wade is given 5 or even 6 years and still is unable to to achieve better results maybe then we can have a debate on whether he should be our coach or not. Nice try though buddy
 

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dbair1967;3248718 said:
Considering he is also the DC, does the defensive game plans and calls the defensive plays. To then think we won in spite of him when the defense had a huge hand in our overall record is pretty stupid wouldnt you agree?

Nope, next question.

We won in spite of Barry Switzer in 94, 95 and 96. He had no real role with the team. e didnt do anything to help or hurt the team on game days. Wade on the other hand has a role and definitely has a big impact on the teams success.

Tell me precisely what role he had as the DC. I'd really like for you to tell me because I want to know who to blame for this team being able to dominate Philly one week and then having their collective arses handed to them the next week. Like when it really counted...
 

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Draegerman;3248725 said:
Nope, next question.



Tell me precisely what role he had as the DC. I'd really like for you to tell me because I want to know who to blame for this team being able to dominate Philly one week and then having their collective arses handed to them the next week. Like when it really counted...

Just stop man, you are embarassing yourself. Nothing of what you just said makes any sense.
 

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dbair1967;3248730 said:
Just stop man, you are embarassing yourself. Nothing of what you just said makes any sense.

Are you absolutely sure I'm the one who's embarassing myself?

Because I think it's you and I also think you're the one giving him too much credit.


So what do you think of that?:cool:
 

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I wasn't a Wade fan to start the season, buy by the end of the season I became one.
 

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GloryDaysRBack;3248722 said:
actually, NICE try, but you failed to properly read the directions..a coach that was given only 3 years with said franchise. Tony Dungy was in TB from 96-01. Once Wade is given 5 or even 6 years and still is unable to to achieve better results maybe then we can have a debate on whether he should be our coach or not. Nice try though buddy

Oh is that what you said. Because here's what I thought you meant:

GloryDaysRBack;3248673 said:
what on earth does the Cowboys winning a playoff game BECAUSE of Wade have to do with anything? To say any team wins BECAUSE of its head coach is beyond ludicrous. Why don't you find me 1 franchise in the NFL who fired their head coach after compiling a similar record to Wades (3 years on the job) and had better results, preferably a team that won the Superbowl. No franchise in their right mind would replace Wade after this year.

Because I didn't see where it was limited to just only 3 years. I simply took the last 3 years of Dungy's record at Tampa. Kind of nice to be able to change what you asked in mid-stream, huh?
 

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Cover 2;3248741 said:
I wasn't a Wade fan to start the season, buy by the end of the season I became one.

Not me, I hated him since the days of "Hard Knocks".
 

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Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack
what on earth does the Cowboys winning a playoff game BECAUSE of Wade have to do with anything? To say any team wins BECAUSE of its head coach is beyond ludicrous. Why don't you find me 1 franchise in the NFL who fired their head coach after compiling a similar record to Wades (3 years on the job) and had better results, preferably a team that won the Superbowl. No franchise in their right mind would replace Wade after this year.
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Draegerman;3248695 said:
Yawn...Jon Gruden


PS: I would - in a NY second

And we'd be the Bucs if we fired Wade, just like the Bucs are after they fired Jon Gruden. Gruden is not the world's greatest coach. People love him or hate him. He is an offensive guru like Phillips is a defensive guru. Gruden does have one skin on the wall.

Wade has a history of excellence as a defensive coordinator. No one will even argue this point. Decades of experience, leading dominant defenses.

The 2009 Dallas Cowboys were one offensive line player short of the Super Bowl this year. Imagine if we'd had two Doug Frees rather than just the one.

Of course, reaching the divisional round in the playoffs after an 11-5 regular season and divisional championship is not exactly the best indication a head coach needs to be fired.

Two NFC East championships in 3 years? Needs to be fired.
Two wild card appearances in 4 years? Greatest coach ever. (Parcells)

But Parcells is the genius head coach and Phillips is the pathetic moron. :eek:
 

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IgorTheMan99;3248749 said:
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Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack
what on earth does the Cowboys winning a playoff game BECAUSE of Wade have to do with anything? To say any team wins BECAUSE of its head coach is beyond ludicrous. Why don't you find me 1 franchise in the NFL who fired their head coach after compiling a similar record to Wades (3 years on the job) and had better results, preferably a team that won the Superbowl. No franchise in their right mind would replace Wade after this year.
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And we'd be the Bucs if we fired Wade, just like the Bucs are after they fired Jon Gruden. Gruden is not the world's greatest coach. People love him or hate him. He is an offensive guru like Phillips is a defensive guru. Gruden does have one skin on the wall.

Wade has a history of excellence as a defensive coordinator. No one will even argue this point. Decades of experience, leading dominant defenses.

The 2009 Dallas Cowboys were one offensive line player short of the Super Bowl this year. Imagine if we'd had two Doug Frees rather than just the one.

Of course, reaching the divisional round in the playoffs after an 11-5 regular season and divisional championship is not exactly the best indication a head coach needs to be fired.

Two NFC East championships in 3 years? Needs to be fired.
Two wild card appearances in 4 years? Greatest coach ever. (Parcells)

But Parcells is the genius head coach and Phillips is the pathetic moron. :eek:

First of all, I didn't repeat myself when you quoted me. SO FIX IT!!!

Secondly, I'd happily trade you decades of being a defensive guru for one Jon Gruden sheepskin.


So what do you think of that?
 

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cowboyjoe;3248579 said:
Stats mean squat in winning games during the season, its what you do during playoff games, if you want to put down those stats, then put down wades playoff history?

Playoff history with wade, wins and losses!
1-4
Now, is that good?

Better yet......playoff victories mean nothing........its all about winning the Championship.....

This week there will be 2 more teams that failed.....and have accomplished just as much as other playoff teams that lost.

It could be said.....what has Andy Reid ever won?

just sayin :)
 

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Draegerman;3248756 said:
First of all, I didn't repeat myself when you quoted me. SO FIX IT!!!

Secondly, I'd happily trade you decades of being a defensive guru for one Jon Gruden sheepskin.


So what do you think of that?
Gee, I didn't know Gruden went to college.

The point I'm making is (and I can't believe it must be explained) that if you get rid of Gruden in 2001 after a 10-6 regular season record and a divisional round loss to the eventual champs, he won't go on to win the Super Bowl for you the next season. And still the Oakland Raiders wait for another ring.

Getting rid of Gruden killed their franchise. They've had 5,000 head coaches since, including, if you can believe the rumors, people named Lane Kiffin and Tom Cable.

Firing a successful head coach will turn you into the Raiders, fast.

Look at the Bucs. Gruden had them in the playoffs just the year before he was fired.

I was on the GROW bandwagon after the 44-6 debacle. But Wade did a good job this year. The team is headed in the right direction. Why would anyone want to change?
 

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Draegerman;3248745 said:
Not me, I hated him since the days of "Hard Knocks".
I understand where you're coming from. He doesn't have the personality type I prefer either, but he gets his defenses to play well, and he brings continuity which is extremely valuable IMO.

After watching Cowher and Dungy I have realized head coaching is overrated. Coordinators are important however, and Wade is a great DC. If we can get a good OC I think we will be in great shape. That and to draft some offensive linemen.
 

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IgorTheMan99;3248771 said:
Gee, I didn't know Gruden went to college.

Are you trying to be funny or just foolish? I'd really like to know because I just may go easy on you if it's the latter rather than the former.

With that said, what part of NFL head coach and sheepskin did you not understand? Why exactly would you confuse it for college? BTW, he did go to college and he has a sheepskin in communications, would you like me to tell you which college it was?

The point I'm making is (and I can't believe it must be explained)...

Okay, so this is where I'm going to stop you (the rest of your post is just clatter trap anyway). Don't assume that I need you to explain things to me. I don't. What I want you to realize is that I extrapolated the main points you wrote to me in your previous reply and responded accordingly.

Okay?
 

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I get it, you'd rather fire a moderately successful coach in order to get the next great Super Bowl stud. Problem is, no one seems to know who that guy is.

Head coaches are like hot chicks. The most desirable ones are easy to identify, but they always have a team (man), who's sick of their #@!@#.

And the Bills ended up with Chan. This is the coaching pool you want Jerry evaluating? Seriously?
 

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IgorTheMan99;3248851 said:
I get it, you'd rather fire a moderately successful coach in order to get the next great Super Bowl stud. Problem is, no one seems to know who that guy is.

Head coaches are like hot chicks. The most desirable ones are easy to identify, but they always have a team (man), who's sick of their #@!@#.

And the Bills ended up with Chan. This is the coaching pool you want Jerry evaluating? Seriously?

Igor, it dawned on me today that I was more than a little pissed off last night because of Wade's extension and I chose to take it out on you. The thing that's eating at me right now was your insistance on taking the high road with each of your replies to me.

So for that, I owe you an apology. You were indeed the better man than me last night.
 

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cowboyjoe;3248579 said:
Stats mean squat in winning games during the season, its what you do during playoff games, if you want to put down those stats, then put down wades playoff history?

Playoff history with wade, wins and losses!
1-4
Now, is that good?

He isn't 1-4 in the last 3 years and if you want to look at the other two guys, they haven't won an SB the last three years either.
 

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Draegerman;3248665 said:
So you really believe that the Cowboys made the playoffs only because Wade was the head coach?

Okay...:rolleyes:


Did you feel the same way about Switzer winning Superbowl Ex-Ex-Ex?

ok then, he isn't the reason we go to the post season so he isn't the reason we didn't win an SB when we go there. Can't have it both ways.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;3249978 said:
ok then, he isn't the reason we go to the post season so he isn't the reason we didn't win an SB when we go there. Can't have it both ways.

Is this all that you gleaned from my posts here on this thread? Because I had a lot more to say than simply not giving Wade credit for this season as the head coach. I do, however, give him tons of credit as the team's DC.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;3249972 said:
He isn't 1-4 in the last 3 years and if you want to look at the other two guys, they haven't won an SB the last three years either.

He's actually 1-3 in the playoffs because you have to count that debacle in Philly last year where the winner of that game made the playoffs.

BTW, and it's just a friendly suggestion, you don't write it as "an SB". The correct way is "a SB". The rule of thumb is only to use the word "an" when the following word after it begins with a vowel (e.g. an avatar). I'm only mentioning this to you because you did it twice in a row with both of your responses here.
 
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