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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell revealed a potential shakeup to the existing playoff system that would allow wild-card teams the possibility of a home game.
The plan has virtually no chance of gaining owner approval, but the intent to cut down on the obvious tanking at the end of the season is admirable. Under the plan, the Giants, with a better record, would have hosted Tampa Bay in the first round of the playoffs.
Source: New York Post



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Personally, I like it the way it is. You have have something to show for winning your division.
 

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I'm beginning to think that Roger Goodell is a moron. Add to it his lame brain idea of putting together games in Europe. This is an American past time, and an American game.

Let's keep it that way. I'm already sick of Roger.
 

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Fletch;1937826 said:
I'm beginning to think that Roger Goodell is a moron. Add to it his lame brain idea of putting together games in Europe. This is an American past time, and an American game.

Let's keep it that way. I'm already sick of Roger.

Agreed. Why play in countries that don't even understand the game. Canada and Mexico are fine. But other than that, I don't see the point. And NO regular season games should be played outside the nation.
 

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Fletch;1937826 said:
I'm beginning to think that Roger Goodell is a moron. Add to it his lame brain idea of putting together games in Europe. This is an American past time, and an American game.

Let's keep it that way. I'm already sick of Roger.
Does anyone not think he's a moron?
 

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Considering how bad some divisions suck, I'm not sure that specific division winner deserves home field advantage over a wild card team with a better record.

I think the G-Men had a better year than the Bucs and wouldn't have had any problem with them hosting their playoff game.
 

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big dog cowboy;1937846 said:
Considering how bad some divisions suck, I'm not sure that specific division winner deserves home field advantage over a wild card team with a better record.

I think the G-Men had a better year than the Bucs and wouldn't have had any problem with them hosting their playoff game.
If you can't even win your division, why do your deserve a home game?
 

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Personally, I like it. Teams wouldn't tank at the end of the season and rest guys for 4 weeks like Tampa Bay.

It could have it's drawbacks but the current system does also.

It wouldn't suprise me to see the NFL eventually add 4 teams to the playoffs and have no byes. Most fans would be for it, all owners against it.

With the current CBA probably going to be opted out of in November of 2008, we are most likely going to see quite a few changes.

The owners do not want to give up so much money, the small market owners want a fairer piece of the pie, and the players want things like all players on the active roster active for gameday, they want 60 man rosters and 15 man practice squads, and of course no less piece of the pie than they are getting now.

If either side does opt out, there will be fireworks. Uncapped year in 2010 is doom for small market teams, no draft, and open free agency. Jerry could sign whoever he wanted and not worry about the implications. Could sign all prospects he wanted coming out of the draft. Think about it, with his money this year he could sign say Chris Long, Darren McFadden, Gholston, Jake Long, whatever the two best CBs are, a couple of WRs, etc. all potential 1st round draft guys and care less what the other teams think.

Never going to happen but it is going to be interesting times after this next season if either side opts out of the CBA.
 

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Sandyf;1937855 said:
Personally, I like it. Teams wouldn't tank at the end of the season and rest guys for 4 weeks like Tampa Bay.

That is a flimsy excuse.

Teams that rest their players earned the right to rest them.

Yet, now they should keep playing their best players for the mythical advantage of a homegame?

What if one gets injured? That would completely dilute the playoffs even more and doesn't improve the product other than to impact late season attendance.

This doesn't solve anything but give the league a chance to rake in more profits. Don't think the league isn't upset by the final weekend of the season having very little drama as it did this past season.
 

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theogt;1937849 said:
If you can't even win your division, why do your deserve a home game?
The G-men had a better year than the Bucs. Just because the G-men are in the same division as the Cowboys they will have a much more difficult time being a division winner over a team like the Bucs who played in an awful division. In other words, saying the Bucs won their division doesn't mean much to me compared to the G-men finishing second in the east. Was anyone really surprised the G-men won their playoff game? Not me. They were better than the Bucs.
 

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big dog cowboy;1937891 said:
The G-men had a better year than the Bucs. Just because the G-men are in the same division as the Cowboys they will have a much more difficult time being a division winner over a team like the Bucs who played in an awful division. In other words, saying the Bucs won their division doesn't mean much to me compared to the G-men finishing second in the east. Was anyone really surprised the G-men won their playoff game? Not me. They were better than the Bucs.
So you're basically saying we should get rid of divisions altogether?

Also, I disagree that the Giants had a better regular season. The Bucs only have 1 less win, but they did win their division.
 

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theogt;1937898 said:
So you're basically saying we should get rid of divisions altogether?

Also, I disagree that the Giants had a better regular season. The Bucs only have 1 less win, but they did win their division.

It all evens out in the playoffs. The "homefield advantage" isn't nearly what it used to be.

So why is there such a concern that "undeserving" teams get a homefield contest.

This is just about lost ticket sales when a Peyton Manning sits for a week.
 

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Is there any question that the Jags were better then the Steelers?
Is there any question that the Giants were better then either Seattle or Tampa Bay?
Seed the teams based on how good they are; not on whether they win their division or not. Why should a team that say wins 12 games have to go to a team that only won 9 and that barely?
 

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HardHittingRoy31;1937824 said:
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell revealed a potential shakeup to the existing playoff system that would allow wild-card teams the possibility of a home game.
The plan has virtually no chance of gaining owner approval, but the intent to cut down on the obvious tanking at the end of the season is admirable. Under the plan, the Giants, with a better record, would have hosted Tampa Bay in the first round of the playoffs.
Source: New York Post



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Wow-Mr. Goodell must have been reading my mind-I myself have been thinking about this for some time.

Really-the division winner with the worst record is usually the team that's mediocre and comes from a crappy division, while the wild card team with the best record usually is a very good team that comes from a very tough division.(Heck-the Giants probably should have beaten us twice in the reg season)

I agree-with it comes to the 4th division winner and WC winner with the best record, give the home game to the one that has the better record.
 

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theogt;1937898 said:
So you're basically saying we should get rid of divisions altogether?

Also, I disagree that the Giants had a better regular season. The Bucs only have 1 less win, but they did win their division.
No, division winners should be given automatic playoff berths. However if we have a 9-7 division winner vs. a 12-4 wild card team, It's fair imo that the better team have the home field advantage.

Do you think the Bucs would have gone 9-7 or better in the NFC East?

Do you think the Giants would have done worse than 10-6 if they played in the NFC South?

Why should the Giants be penalized for playing in a tough division while the Bucs benefit from a soft diviision?
 

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windward;1938235 said:
No, division winners should be given automatic playoff berths. However if we have a 9-7 division winner vs. a 12-4 wild card team, It's fair imo that the better team have the home field advantage.

Do you think the Bucs would have gone 9-7 or better in the NFC East?

Do you think the Giants would have done worse than 10-6 if they played in the NFC South?

Why should the Giants be penalized for playing in a tough division while the Bucs benefit from a soft diviision?
What if you have 3 non-division winners that are 12-4 and a division winner that is 8-8.

Why should they yield HFA to a 12-4 but not a playoff spot?
 

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theogt;1938274 said:
What if you have 3 non-division winners that are 12-4 and a division winner that is 8-8.

Why should they yield HFA to a 12-4 but not a playoff spot?
Such a scenario is unlikely. ( no 12-4 team has ever missed the playoffs. The closest was the 1985 Broncos who went 11-5. There were only five playoff teams per conference then.)

Regardless, it's a compromise. There is no perfect system, but I think giving HFA to the team with the better record is a better solution than giving it to the division winner regardless of record.
 
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