Goodell Wants To Eliminate Kickoffs - Floats Novel Idea

My problem with this is that 4th and 15 is a hell of a lot easier to convert than an onside kick. They should make that longer IMO.
 
I've heard this plan before so it's isn't unique to Schiano. It's interesting but I would be against it.
 
ajk23az;4881548 said:
My problem with this is that 4th and 15 is a hell of a lot easier to convert than an onside kick. They should make that longer IMO.

That what I was thinking. I bet we'd see more interesting punt formations and fakes. You might see a backup quarterback on the field so the defense has to think they may pass on any punt-offf.
 
goofy plan.

if you want to do away with kickoffs just give the teams the ball at the 30 and be done with it.

thousands of youth leagues do this and it works just fine.

the 4th and 15 nonsense is just that. you don't make up downs.

if you remove kickoffs you remove onsides kick options. that's just part of the deal.

if they want to extend games and make late game play more interesting stop the clock after all first downs in the finals 5 minutes of a game.
 
a bunch of crap--why eliminate them? safety? then get rid of punts and get rid of tackling and blocking
 
So it was Greg Schiano idea, same coach that even when the other team is running out the clock he blows up the center? Yeah he is all about the safety of players. :laugh2:
 
I wouldn't mind it. Sounds like an interesting concept to me.

What are the percentages of getting a 4th and 15?
 
Eddie;4881650 said:
I wouldn't mind it. Sounds like an interesting concept to me.

What are the percentages of getting a 4th and 15?
Im not against kickoffs at all but i admit i kinda find this idea interesting too. It would make end of games more exciting i think
 
I am for it, specially now that most kicks sail into the endzone. What fans aren't seeing is the huge running start collisions, usually for nothing.
 
ajk23az;4881548 said:
My problem with this is that 4th and 15 is a hell of a lot easier to convert than an onside kick. They should make that longer IMO.

Actually, it's more difficult, and by a wide margin. Since 2000, passes on 3rd or 4th and 15 have been converted only 16.4 percent of the time (sample size of over 1,500). Non-surprise onside kicks get recovered at around a 30 percent rate.
 
Doomsday101;4881721 said:
Mara may be interested in it as well but I don't think it is BS on Greg Schiano, he could easily stand up and say it was a load of BS he is not.

I think it's the other way around. This is more Mara stupidity, with Schiano being interested .
 
muck4doo;4881732 said:
I think it's the other way around. This is more Mara stupidity, with Schiano being interested .

either way, I disagree with the rule change and just hope they do not get the votes to pass it.

Kickoff are part of the game and should remain that way
 
HoosierCowboy;4881621 said:
a bunch of crap--why eliminate them? safety? then get rid of punts and get rid of tackling and blocking

Maybe football is just too dangerous to play in a civilized society? Another in a long list of things people engage in consensually that should be banned like motorcycles, snowboards, bungee jumping, etc. ;)
 
Just a very stupid idea....nothing more to say about it....

Soon it will be flag football.............
 
I've generally been in favor of the changes that have been made for safety, but I don't like this at all. It's one thing to police how the game is played differently, this is creating a whole new game.
 

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