Twitter: Goose: Blame Jimmy Johnson for Cowboys defensive issues today

[Hawkeye0202]

Sorry to burst your bubble genius but that’s not quite true.
Even Jerrah says to this day the move that got them over the top is Charles Haley, remember him? He of 5 SB rings.
What about Deion Sanders?
Want to take a guess who pushed for getting them to Dallas?
Give you a guess... it wasn’t Jerrah

Maybe you can do yourself a favour and go watch some highlights from back in those days, might be an eye opener for you.

LOL...whatever

 

[DanTanna]

I don't think we will get better until the Jones family sells the team.

 

[Hook'em#11]

Rather have that no name, no Pro Bowler defense, then ANY defense Dallas has had since then.

Coaching, what a concept.

 

[Silly]

The cowboys are where they are because Jerry got lucky and won some super bowls. JERRY GOT LUCKY!!! IT IS APPARENT FROM ALL THESE FAILED SEASONS THAT HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE IS DOING. He may be a business genius. However, that hasn't helped the cowboys field a winning team in decades.

 

[Diehardblues]

I don't think we will get better until the Jones family sells the team.

Perhaps we need to define better?

We’ve seen some better teams this era. Just a couple years ago many fans were commending the Jone$ for better drafts, personnel moves, etc as we’d won 3 division titles in 5 years appearing to be headed in a better direction.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Tony Tolbert was drafted in '89 , Jimmie Jones in '90 , Dixon Edwards & Godfrey Miles & Leon Lett & Larry Brown in '91 , Robert Jones & Darren Woodson in '92 , and they traded for Tony Casillas , Haley and Thomas Everett and brought in James Washington through Plan B...................So the idea Jimmy focused simply on the offensive side of the ball is utterly preposterous , especially since Johnson made his name as a defensive coach before becoming a head coach........................

he invested and he got something in return...we invest and get nothing in return.

this was very on point

 

[Diehardblues]

The biggest change this year was changing coaching staffs and letting 4 defensive starters walk.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I don't think we will get better until the Jones family sells the team.

unfortunatley we have turned into the Raiders under Al Davis......we are the butt of NFL jokes...

 

[dckid]

He ain't lying but also I also think it's ideal getting his return on investment of Troy, Romo, and now Dak's huge contracts and surrounding them with top-level players. But not realizing/accepting your QB can just as successful with a great defense.




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No D in Big D? Blame Jimmy
Rick Gosselin

a day ago

Looking for someone to blame for the atrocious defensive play by the Dallas Cowboys this season?

Blame their newly-minted Hall of Fame coach Jimmy Johnson.

Almost three decades ago, Jimmy showed Cowboys owner Jerry Jones that you can play defense on the cheap and still win championships. The Triplets were showered with all the glory in 1992 when the Cowboys won their first Super Bowl of the decade. Overlooked was the fact the Cowboys led the NFL in defense that year, yet didn’t place a single defender on the Pro Bowl team.

There were no stars on that side of the ball that season. At least no Pro Bowl-level stars. Jimmy showed Jerry how it's done and it became gospel for the Cowboys owner. He has been all about offense ever since. The players that touch the football, score the points and show up on the Sunday-night highlights are the names plastered on the franchise marquee. Offensive skill rules. Defense became – and remains -- an afterthought.

I am sorry but Gosselin should lose his ability to cover football.
Jimmy turned the league on its ear, with his approach to defense. He relied on team speed , especially a swarming defense. He had two sets of lines and keeping everyone fresh. Of course he got Haley was a perennial pro-bowler.
I don't want to even keep discussing this nonsense. You know the season is over when these Hot take articles are what is being published.

 

[dckid]

unfortunatley we have turned into the Raiders under Al Davis......we are the butt of NFL jokes...

At lease Al Davis knew football and won 3 SB's because he was a football guy. It took him a while to go senile and draft the likes of Jemarcus Russell and just super fast guys.

 

[Whirlwin]

The pro bowl is a popularity contest...

Yes but what do you have to do to become popular. Make no mistake about it it’s about talent

 

[Jake]

Jerry and Stephen had a dream scenario with Dak and Zeke on rookie deals. Even had a younger, better offensive line then.

They still couldn't put together enough pieces to compete for a championship. How anyone has faith in them I'll never understand.

 

[CouchCoach]

Booger's failing with the two best HC's he's had, Johnson and Parcells, was not learning from them. He was too busy competing with them for attention.

That whole triplets thing was ridiculous but Booger bought it because of the marketability of it. Irvin was already there, Aikman was a "must pick" and Smith was a fall back after CIN took James Francis.

Jimmy patterned his D after his at UM and after Shula's No Name D, pure team speed and swarm to the ball. In '92, he had the #1 D and SB winning D which was also the youngest to ever go to a SB and not one pber on it, never been done before or since. And that was by design, the same design at OK St. that got him the UM job that got him the DAL job.

Parcells came in to build a blue collar lunch pail team and got rid of Emmitt and had his OL picks, Peterman and Rogers, worked out, he would have done better as he was focusing on the trenches, the man knew NFC East ball. While he's trying to build a team in Star Town, Booger decides they need another one in Owens.

Booger is all about the stars and coaches are all about the team.

 

[quickccc]

i don't get blaming a HC that has been gone almost three decades ago ... but ironically the same owner and GM is still here,
and still lost in how to build a true defense, we've paid for overaged FAs, we've signed failing FAs and we don't have regard for
safeties or 1 tech players

and we're trying the Money ball cheap approach instead of going after guys like Tyranny Mathiu,

 

[ghosttown cowboy]

If it weren't for Jimmy, Jerry would be another Dan Snyder...

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Tony Tolbert was drafted in '89 , Jimmie Jones in '90 , Dixon Edwards & Godfrey Miles & Leon Lett & Larry Brown in '91 , Robert Jones & Darren Woodson in '92 , and they traded for Tony Casillas , Haley and Thomas Everett and brought in James Washington through Plan B...................So the idea Jimmy focused simply on the offensive side of the ball is utterly preposterous , especially since Johnson made his name as a defensive coach before becoming a head coach........................

Understand this totally but the question is how many of these players were given 2nd contracts to build around? In fact, I'm trying to think of any other DRAFTED defensive players Jerry has given a TOP 5 contract other than DWARE and DLAW.

Just me, but my understanding is Goose is actually crediting Jimmy with putting together a Super Bowl level D w/o using a lot high picks.

Remember not so long ago, we were using the words bottom feeder and Stephen Jones in the same sentence? Remember many fans blame a lack of investment in D for Romo lack of post-season success? How many times we hear/heard he had little or no defensive help, So I think what Goose is saying Jerry and Stephen have piecemeal the D since Jimmy left. Never truly focused on making it a great unit with an identity.

 

[kevm3]

I'm sorry, but no, we can't blame Jimmy. It's been over 20 years since Jimmy's been here. Somebody should have figured it out by now. How about we look at the shotcallers?

 

[mmohican29]

He ain't lying but also I also think it's ideal getting his return on investment of Troy, Romo, and now Dak's huge contracts and surrounding them with top-level players. But not realizing/accepting your QB can just as successful with a great defense.

Stupid article.

A) 1992 No-Name Defense was a perfect amalgamation of speed, youth, and desire.

Johnson, Wannstedt, and David brought the Univ of Miami philosophy (which valued speed over size). Safeties-LBers, LBers-DE's. College DE's into interior DL.

The Cowboys between 90-92 aimed player acquisition to ensure their team was 2-5% faster @ every Defensive position in the starting 11, through the depth chart.

Then JJ put the fear of God in them to avoid failure with instant releases of non-fit players.

Haley was the cherry on top and you had quality, quick, D-Linemen (Maryland, Casillas, J.Jones, Lett, in waves and a vet like Jeffcoat available for 3rd and Forevers.

They just out hustled everybody, sat in Cover-4 and made you beat them.

It helped that from 91' on with Emmitt, Mike, Troy, the 'Boyshad a mauling ball control, precision offense that made you pay dearly for any 3 and Out.

Speed, speed, speed. Rotation, Rotation, Rotation. ALL day every snap.

X Woods would not have survived his quote 5 mins after he said it in '91-'94.





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No D in Big D? Blame Jimmy
Rick Gosselin

a day ago

Looking for someone to blame for the atrocious defensive play by the Dallas Cowboys this season?

Blame their newly-minted Hall of Fame coach Jimmy Johnson.

Almost three decades ago, Jimmy showed Cowboys owner Jerry Jones that you can play defense on the cheap and still win championships. The Triplets were showered with all the glory in 1992 when the Cowboys won their first Super Bowl of the decade. Overlooked was the fact the Cowboys led the NFL in defense that year, yet didn’t place a single defender on the Pro Bowl team.

There were no stars on that side of the ball that season. At least no Pro Bowl-level stars. Jimmy showed Jerry how it's done and it became gospel for the Cowboys owner. He has been all about offense ever since. The players that touch the football, score the points and show up on the Sunday-night highlights are the names plastered on the franchise marquee. Offensive skill rules. Defense became – and remains -- an afterthought.

 

[CoachD]

This is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

They brought in Haley. They traded a 2nd round pick and other lower picks for Tony Casillas. They used multiple high picks on defenders like Maryland, Smith, Jones, Woodson, etc.

Nothing about that defense was on the "cheap".

They also traded for Thomas Everett who was badass!

 

[DandyDon52]

That defense scored the 2nd td in that SB !! lol. gave them the lead.