Goose on Prescott

[Silver N Blue]

There's a reason Romo went undrafted too.

Great point.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Re-read the first sentence in the post. Of course not all things are equal, it is just a response to what Moose is suggesting. I don't think Jared Goff would be looking this good if he just simply switched spots with Dak.

And with the modest amount of information we have seen on Goff, or Wentz even, how can anyone be certain?

 

[Reality]

Goose is schooling you guys this morning.

So what he's saying is that it is Dak is in the perfect spot because he was drafted by the perfect team for him. Awesome! Thanks for confirming that.

.. and about your hatred of him being drafted by the Cowboys ... ouch! .. but at least you're admitting it now!

As a bonus, he compared him to Joe Montana and Emmitt Smith! That's awesome!

 

[Gabe]

Question: If the 2016 NFL draft was today, is Dak the first QB off the board?

Gosselin: There's a reason Dak was the seventh quarterback taken in the draft. There's also a reason he's having the success he's having in Dallas. He's playing with the best offensive line in football and with a fellow rookie who should win the rushing title. If Dak Prescott was the first overall pick and went to the Rams, he wouldn't be having the success he's having right now. If Jared Goff was a fourth-round pick and went to the Cowboys, I think folks would like what they are seeing from him. In the NFL it's all about going to the right situation at the right time. I don't think Joe Montana would have been the same quarterback had he been drafted by Detroit in 1979. I don't think Emmitt Smith would have been the same running back had he been drafted by Cleveland in 1990. It's all about being in the right place at the right time. Dak Prescott is clearly in the right place for him at the right time.

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More like Dallas was in the right place at the right time. 4-12 last season with such an incredible situation. It was pure luck Dallas ended up with Dak because as everyone can remember they wanted Connor Cook, Charles Tapper, Paxton Lynch, etc... Above Dak.

Dak is the next Tom Brady, or better... He just beat Brady's rookie record of no INTs to start a career. He played with Zeke out of shape a few games, banged up/absent Tyron Smith, no Dez... He did just fine with Chaz Green and Terrance Williams.

This guy's feelings are probably hurt because he didn't like Dak prior to being drafted and has probably been a detractor the entire time. Guy has had a rough road...

Some friendly advice to him if by some remote chance he reads this, just let it go, admit you were wrong, and move forward.... You will feel MUCH better!

 

[haleyrules]

Well Mr. "Goose" can say what he wants, in fact, he doesn't know any of his claims to a certainty. It's pure and unprovable speculation and a form of popular trolling.

 

[Risen Star]

Opinions I don't like is trolling. Please censor them.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

This is why Goose should just stick to the draft and then go back in his hole for the rest of the year.

Jared Goff isn't having the same type of success if he was drafted by Dallas. Maybe in the future, but at this point, nowhere near the success he's having now.

Hell, I was big on Paxton Lynch...and he's not going to have the success at this point if he was playing for us instead of Dak. Dak was far better coached than either of those two in college and is a better athlete than Goff and he and Lynch are at about the same level of athleticism.

One could always say 'there's a reason why Tom Brady was a 6th rounder' or 'there's a reason why Kurt Warner/Tony Romo was undrafted.'

Scouts are never going to be perfect and holding a QB to his draft status despite clearly out-performing not only his draft status, but every QB drafted ahead of him...is a very narrow outlook and a poor understanding of football.






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[Gabe]

This is why Goose should just stick to the draft and then go back in his hole for the rest of the year.

Jared Goff isn't having the same type of success if he was drafted by Dallas. Maybe in the future, but at this point, nowhere near the success he's having now.

Hell, I was big on Paxton Lynch...and he's not going to have the success at this point if he was playing for us instead of Dak. Dak was far better coached than either of those two in college and is a better athlete than Goff and he and Lynch are at about the same level of athleticism.

One could always say 'there's a reason why Tom Brady was a 6th rounder' or 'there's a reason why Kurt Warner/Tony Romo was undrafted.'

Scouts are never going to be perfect and holding a QB to his draft status despite clearly out-performing not only his draft status, but every QB drafted ahead of him...is a very narrow outlook and a poor understanding of football.






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I think it is also important to keep in mind that there are LSU fans, anti-SEC fans, etc... That want Dak to fail so bad. Even one really short guy that reports on the Cowboys, Helman sp?? That is an LSU guy. You can tell how much it pains him to say anything positive about Dak. Sucks for that crowd.

Not sure where "Goose" fits in... But, just saying there are a lot of Dak haters lurking in the shadows.

 

[etw926]

Dak is the next Tom Brady, or better

 

[Dale]

Seems like a bizarre answer to the question, honestly. He brings up Emmitt. There is no doubt he benefited from the situation he was drafted into -- as has Zeke -- and was the right guy at the right time.

But does anyone think in a "redraft" he slips to the Cowboys again based on what he turned into?

Give me Brady, Wilson or any other star QB who slipped, and I'll take my chances they might amount to something here, too.

 

[Idgit]

There's a reason Romo went undrafted too.

Goose is implying that the general opinion in the NFL is that the other six QB taken ahead of Prescott are all better players. But before Zeke even set foot on the field, NFL people were impressed with Prescott.

Adam Schefter (8/23/16): I spoke to a couple of different people this week, who, when they'd heard all this Dak Prescott conversation, went and looked at the film of the guy. They were blown away at the decisions he was making, the skills he demonstrated, looking downfield, playing like a veteran. You could say, "It's preseason." That's what I said. I talked to a couple of people and asked, "What do you think? Is this overblown? Are we getting too excited over a guy after two preseason games?" And they went and looked at the film and said, "This guy has got it. He's got it. They've found their quarterback of the future." If they did hit on that pick the way that other highly intelligent people think they hit on the pick, they're set for the next 12-15 years.

Nice retrieval of this Shefter quote. I'd forgotten how it felt back in preseason when Dak was tearing it up and we were hoping he might be able to keep it up in the regular season but weren't really sure if he could or not. It's kind of great to just sit back and appreciate that we've got a long term solution at QB. Man, we got lucky here.

 

[Cowboys22]

This issue comes down to a simple question. Given what we have seen thus far, would the Rams still make the choice to take Goff? If not, would they take Wentz or Dak instead? In my opinion, they would make a different choice. I'm sure they had Wentz right up there with Goff like everyone else so would they stick with that assessment or has Dak shown enough to jump up to #1. I think he has. Any team that traded multiple high picks to go up and get a QB would be more than thrilled with what Dak has done at this point. No team would give a seconds worth of thought to Dallas' OL or Zeke. They would see Daks ability and potential and feel their coaches could get the same performance from him.

 

[Ranching]

Such a simplistic outlook deserves a simplistic response.

Matt Cassel. Brandon Weeden.

Jared Goff couldn't beat out Case Keenum.

Someone left a lot of meat on the bone with those guys.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

Well he's not wrong.

Emmitt was Emmitt because of being in the right place at the right time.

Sanders was Sanders because of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I think Dak would vault to third QB taken but if you were a believer in the talent of Goff and/or Wentz then I don't think anything has happened to make you back off of that. For Goff it appears that the mental part of the game is coming a bit slower than expected, but I would think the prevailing thought would be that it is easier to get Goff mentally developed as opposed to getting Dak (who was already known to be strong above the neck pre-draft, it wasn't a secret) to suddenly develop special throwing skills. Time will tell.

 

[Sarge]

So we should feel guilty for having the best OL and leading rusher in football?. It is what it is and me likes what it is, so no need to pick it apart with the obvious.

 

[Gabe]

I think Dak would vault to third QB taken but if you were a believer in the talent of Goff and/or Wentz then I don't think anything has happened to make you back off of that. For Goff it appears that the mental part of the game is coming a bit slower than expected, but I would think the prevailing thought would be that it is easier to get Goff mentally developed as opposed to getting Dak (who was already known to be strong above the neck pre-draft, it wasn't a secret) to suddenly develop special throwing skills. Time will tell.

Could you elaborate on the special throwing skills aspect of your post? My only hope is that Dak doesn't regress to Romo's set of special skills. Staying Tom Brady level works for me.

 

[Idgit]

Could you elaborate on the special throwing skills aspect of your post? My only hope is that Dak doesn't regress to Romo's set of special skills. Staying Tom Brady level works for me.

You really need to get familiar with Tony Romo's level of play, dude. It's kind of embarrassing to have even brand-new Cowboys fans uniformed about the team's so-very-recent history.

 

[Gabe]

You really need to get familiar with Tony Romo's level of play, dude. It's kind of embarrassing to have even brand-new Cowboys fans uniformed about the team's so-very-recent history.

Romo has many more turnovers than he has games played, NOT GOOD. With this defense that problem becomes magnified. Should we review his stats from his most recent two games? He is much older, slower, etc... Now than he was then.

Romo aside, Dak just surpassed a very key Tom Brady record as a rookie. How much more "special skills" does he need to develop? That was my initial question.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Could you elaborate on the special throwing skills aspect of your post? My only hope is that Dak doesn't regress to Romo's set of special skills. Staying Tom Brady level works for me.

In college Goff displayed truly special throwing ability when it comes to throwing receivers open, throwing with touch, and throwing into tight windows. Dak was more of a dink and dunk passer, protected the ball, ran a bit, and struggled with accuracy when throwing to covered receivers and/or downfield.