Goose's Top 100?

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xwalker;5056405 said:
The change in Gosselin's duties were not his preference from my understanding. DMN just couldn't afford to have 1 guy dedicated to just covering the draft and non-Cowboys related NFL issues.

The Internet is killing DMN.
That doesn't excuse having him from drop his draft coverage though. They moved him up and gave somebody else the draft coverage job-the one thing he was competent at.
 

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Zordon;5056435 said:
Goose is closer to Blackie then he is to Watkins/Mcmahon and the rest of espn dallas buffoons I see him compared to on the regular on CZ.

Blackie was a poet. Goose is more of a technical writer. They do two different things but I compare them b/c they both put effort into their craft, unlike the buffoons we have today covering the team.

If I accept that he has become a little cynical the past few years will you accept that some here have berated Goose simply b/c they cannot accept the harsh truths he spits out about this franchise?

No offense but you are absolutely wrong here.

Blackie was meant to write. He could've written novels.

Goose is a specialist who gathered data and presented it effectively but with zero flair or art. He is certainly not a 'writer'. His work as a columnist proves that beyond all doubt. He is as bad as JJT was. And JJT was clearly lazy in his efforts thinking a few opinions was all that was needed.

I subscribed to BOTH the Dallas Times Herald and DMN as a kid growing up. I LIVED for the sports pages. I wrote on notebook paper following draft coverage on the radio.

I believe I have a pretty good sense of this particular question.

All that said I will certainly grant that it is not Goose's fault DMN miscasts him. We all have to pay the bills. It is also very hard to remain level-headed in the face of overwhelming criticism. BUT a columnist number one job is to entertain and build a readership. Looks at the last 10 articles Goose produced. They have around 20 comments total. He is failing miserably at his job. It isn't all his fault but it is happening nonetheless.
 

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speedkilz88;5056443 said:
That doesn't excuse having him from drop his draft coverage though. They moved him up and gave somebody else the draft coverage job-the one thing he was competent at.

They just gave the draft coverage to the Cowboys beat reporters which they always wrote about even when Gosselin was doing his draft thing. Gosselin's draft-guru position was eliminated.
 

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xwalker;5056487 said:
They just gave the draft coverage to the Cowboys beat reporters which they always wrote about even when Gosselin was doing his draft thing. Gosselin's draft-guru position was eliminated.
Which is idiotic and not a money thing. They could have moved him up but told him to keep doing the draft. Which again is the only thing that he's shown he's competent at.
 

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jterrell;5056456 said:
No offense but you are absolutely wrong here.

Blackie was meant to write. He could've written novels.

Goose is a specialist who gathered data and presented it effectively but with zero flair or art. He is certainly not a 'writer'. His work as a columnist proves that beyond all doubt. He is as bad as JJT was. And JJT was clearly lazy in his efforts thinking a few opinions was all that was needed.

I subscribed to BOTH the Dallas Times Herald and DMN as a kid growing up. I LIVED for the sports pages. I wrote on notebook paper following draft coverage on the radio.

I believe I have a pretty good sense of this particular question.

All that said I will certainly grant that it is not Goose's fault DMN miscasts him. We all have to pay the bills. It is also very hard to remain level-headed in the face of overwhelming criticism. BUT a columnist number one job is to entertain and build a readership. Looks at the last 10 articles Goose produced. They have around 20 comments total. He is failing miserably at his job. It isn't all his fault but it is happening nonetheless.
I guess we agree to disagree. Blackie could not do what Goose did and Goose could not do what Blackie did. Yet we can agree they were both the best at their specific crafts. JJT and the rest of those buffoons aren't the best at anything.
 

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Zordon;5056320 said:
He was great for many years. DMN offered him a position with more money and he took it despite it watering down his product. Doesn't mean what he did for 2 decades is forgotten. I have tremendous respect for Norm Hitzges, and he says he pretty much looked up to Goose for many years b/c of his work ethic when it came to the draft.

Goose has been telling the truth about the Cowboys for many years. The Cowboys have been bad bad bad for a long time. Why some expect rosy stories about this franchise is beyond me.

If Blackie and Luksa were still around best believe they would be hammering this franchise as well.

You say it yourself. Norm looked up to goose for his work regarding the draft.

He isn't doing the draft anymore. He is spouting off the same tired BS as the rest of the gang, rarely offers anything new or even insightful and at times gives us blatantly false information.
 

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Zordon;5056320 said:
He was great for many years. DMN offered him a position with more money and he took it despite it watering down his product. Doesn't mean what he did for 2 decades is forgotten. I have tremendous respect for Norm Hitzges, and he says he pretty much looked up to Goose for many years b/c of his work ethic when it came to the draft.

Goose has been telling the truth about the Cowboys for many years. The Cowboys have been bad bad bad for a long time. Why some expect rosy stories about this franchise is beyond me.

If Blackie and Luksa were still around best believe they would be hammering this franchise as well.

Would Blackie and Luksa say that they always pick the home team in games (when even that was a lie) to justify him always picking against Dallas in 2007 when they went 13-3?

Would Blackie and Luksa say that if the Cowboys do not get under the cap, they cannot participate in the draft?

Would Blackie and Luksa say that we should move Roy Williams to 3-4 OLB?

Goose is a dolt.

He did one thing great, the NFL draft. But, that was because he had properly vetted sources for the draft and used their information to compile his mock drafts and mock top-100 list.

He doesn't do that anymore and he's as useless as a 1-legged man with an inner ear fluid disorder in a butt kicking contest.







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Zordon;5056435 said:
Goose is closer to Blackie then he is to Watkins/Mcmahon

That's like saying the dog poop in the front lawn tastes much better than the urinal cake in the men's bathroom.

If I accept that he has become a little cynical the past few years will you accept that some here have berated Goose simply b/c they cannot accept the harsh truths he spits out about this franchise?

You still haven't accepted how incompetent he has been. Case in point, the recent 'Dallas cannot be at the draft if they don't sign Romo to an extension to get under the cap.'

There are many more instances of his buffoonery.

But, that one...particularly for a 'draft expert' really takes the cake since everybody knows that is not true.

That's the problem I have with a lot of people...they think that because a writer (or a poster) criticizes the Cowboys most of the time that it give that writer (or poster) credibility.

Good, thoughtful, insightful writing and reporting gives the writer (or poster) credibility. The other stuff is just for the clowns.







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Yakuza Rich;5056588 said:
Would Blackie and Luksa say that they always pick the home team in games (when even that was a lie) to justify him always picking against Dallas in 2007 when they went 13-3?

Would Blackie and Luksa say that if the Cowboys do not get under the cap, they cannot participate in the draft?

Would Blackie and Luksa say that we should move Roy Williams to 3-4 OLB?

Goose is a dolt.

He did one thing great, the NFL draft. But, that was because he had properly vetted sources for the draft and used their information to compile his mock drafts and mock top-100 list.

He doesn't do that anymore and he's as useless as a 1-legged man with an inner ear fluid disorder in a butt kicking contest.







YR

Bravo. I am a huge fan of adding the inner ear disorder to an an old favorite. Makes it fresh!
 

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xwalker;5056405 said:
The Internet is killing DMN.

The DMN is killing the DMN. The internet is just an easy excuse for upper management incompetence towards understanding how to monetize the internet and how to appeal to the changes in our culture and society.








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Joe Rod;5056597 said:
Bravo. I am a huge fan of adding the inner ear disorder to an an old favorite. Makes it fresh!

It makes it the truth.

A 1-legged man by its standalone is not incompetent enough to accurately depict Goose's incompentence outside of the draft.

I guess if you talk in a monotone voice and come off like some know it all, people will buy into it...even if you're completely inaccurate, non-factual and in general a goof.






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Yakuza Rich;5056616 said:
It makes it the truth.

A 1-legged man by its standalone is not incompetent enough to accurately depict Goose's incompentence outside of the draft.

I guess if you talk in a monotone voice and come off like some know it all, people will buy into it...even if you're completely inaccurate, non-factual and in general a goof.
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There is some accuracy in the Fake Goose.

http://www.theunticket.com/fake-norm-goose-gosselin/
 

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hendog;5056201 said:
Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen Goose's top 100 list or mock. His list is usually fairly spot on. Mock not so much. (Just like everyone else's) impossible to predict.

Yea, his top 100 list was gold.


Most of his other stuff is just crap, too bad he stopped doing the one thing he was really good at.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;5056204 said:
He quit doing his mock drafts.

Which sucks because frankly it was the best thing he ever did.

Floatyworm banned from the Ranch........

Goose quit doing mock drafts.........

Hmmmmmmm

Coincidence?:D

Where do you think he was getting his info?
 

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jterrell;5056353 said:
Not sure any of what you said changes the basic fact that Goose is not even in the same universe as Blackie. To list them together is pretty much blasphemy.

I completely respect the draft work Goose did for 20 years and in fact it was a coup for the DMN to have him winning awards for that coverage.

But it is also quite true that he became jaded by the fan base reaction and let that affect his work. His Cowboys criticism is fair at times but largely over the top and dripping with bitter cynicism. Blackie could've criticized the Cowboys and had us all laughing along and agreeing.

Dallas has been a slightly above average team the past decade not some bottom of the barrel team that needs to constantly be kicked.

Goose argued that Dallas was in serious jeopardy of not being able to conduct the draft because they needed to resign Romo ... and then as soon as Dallas resigned Romo he went ballistic about how bad a move that was. I kid you not.

Nailed it!

Goose used to know the draft better than anyone but that does not mean he knows anything about football or the Cowboys. He is living off his draft reputation as a sports journalist and people are starting to catch on that he knows nothing about anything else.
 
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