Gordon to the Browns round 2

[silverbear]

We can't say for certain the sun will rise tomorrow but..........


that's all I'm saying

Pay him no mind, man...

 

[silverbear]

Like I said Joe poster vs a physician with years of schooling and residency. Yeah that is a great comparison.

Well established how? Anyone can claim anything on the net.

Son, you're running your mouth without having the first clue what you're talking about... SDogo has laid his bonafides out in here before, and has been quite right on numerous occasions... he's not perfect, but neither are any of the scouts out there... and he's right often enough that you should respect that...

 

[silverbear]

Never posted on a forum before. I just think it is funny people claim things on the net no one can back up. I had a series of pm back and forths recently with one such poster making claims. Soured me a bit. He wouldn't stop.

Aside from that I'm naturally skeptical and why does that skeptisum bother you?

Uhhh, because you're coming off as a know it all and a jerk your own self??

 

[Kingsmith88]

Son, you're running your mouth without having the first clue what you're talking about... SDogo has laid his bonafides out in here before, and has been quite right on numerous occasions... he's not perfect, but neither are any of the scouts out there... and he's right often enough that you should respect that...

Already answered that, no need to go through and respond to every post. Never mind I guess you will respond to every post.

 

[SDogo]

Bear, while I appreciate the support it's not worth your time. Truth be told, I have no issues with Kingsmith88. While I believe his view is a little narrow minded you know as well as I do criticism is nothing new for me.

Perhaps it's a little bit of aging mixed in with a few life changing events over the last year and half but the kinder, gentler me has found a peace in this world with simply not giving a rats trail end what the critics think anymore.

Really my issue was that I hate to see people join this board and not benefit from it's full resources simply because they have a closed mind. In the totem pole pecking order I'm happy to be looking up around here.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Dallas did the right thing. They could not have landed Gordon without offering up a 1st rounder to beat out the 2nd rounder the Browns used to get him. Forget the off field stuff. He is not worth using a 1st round pick on. There just isn't enough information on him since he only has played 1 season two years ago. And that season was fairly tame compared to the types of seasons 1st round wide receivers typically put up in college.

His numbers are especially non-spectacular playing in the Big XII, where WRs routinely put up big numbers playing in passing offenses against horrible pass defenses. The success rate of Big XII WRs taken in the top 2 rounds is pretty bad.

Year Player School Pick Team Years Yards
2001 Quincy Morgan Kan St #33 Clev 6 2466
2001 Robert Ferguson Tex A&M #41 GB 8 1993
2003 Bethel Johnson Tex A&M #45 NE 4 606
2004 Roy Williams Texas #7 Det 8 5715
2004 Rashaun Woods Ok St #31 SF 1 160
2005 Mark Clayton OU #22 Balt 7 3448
2005 Mark Bradley OU #39 Chi 5 1283
2005 Terence Murphy Tex A&M #58 GB 1 36
2008 Jordy Nelson Kan St #36 GB 4 2531
2008 Limas Sweed Texas #53 Pitt 2 69
2009 Michael Crabtree Tex Tech #10 SF 3 2240
2009 Jeremy Maclin Missouri #19 Phil 3 2585
2010 Dez Bryant Ok St #24 Dal 2 1489

 

[silverbear]

I didn't give any value to the guy or make any comment about his abilities. I posted that because I thought the guy similarly dismissed one opinion with his own.

Bullcrap... you clearly implied, repeatedly, that you didn't think he had any better info than the rest of us did...

So I have been told being new I don't know the players but I always am skeptical of things someone claims if I don't know the person. Respect is earned but thanks for the heads up.

I'd like to hope you learned a lesson, but I've seen your arrogance at work in another thread...

Just so you understand, some of us are rushing to SDogo's defense because some cynics like yourself damn near ran him off this board a while back... some of us are determined not to let that happen again...

 

[silverbear]

Already answered that, no need to go through and respond to every post. Never mind I guess you will respond to every post.

Yeah, that's what I do when a poster offends me... again, if you "knew the players", to borrow your own turn of phrase, that wouldn't surprise you...

 

[silverbear]

Bear, while I appreciate the support it's not worth your time. Truth be told, I have no issues with Kingsmith88. While I believe his view is a little narrow minded you know as well as I do criticism is nothing new for me.

Perhaps it's a little bit of aging mixed in with a few life changing events over the last year and half but the kinder, gentler me has found a peace in this world with simply not giving a rats trail end what the critics think anymore.

Really my issue was that I hate to see people join this board and not benefit from it's full resources simply because they have a closed mind. In the totem pole pecking order I'm happy to be looking up around here.

Actually, to the Tlingits (and I suspect all of the totem pole-carving tribes), being low man on the totem pole is a place of honor...

Just an interesting little tidbit not many people know...

 

[Sb or Bust]

A little off topic from this post but:
Did any other teams put in a claim? What round? Did the Cowboys? Or this is info not available. This could shine a light what other teams opinion was.

 

[Jay]

A little off topic from this post but:
Did any other teams put in a claim? What round? Did the Cowboys? Or this is info not available. This could shine a light what other teams opinion was.

This information won't be made public, and we won't know anything unless someone opens their mouth. Odds are, we will never know. Nothing good can come from leaking something like this, so teams keep it to themselves.