Gosselin: Cowboys can learn two things from 49ers and Seahawks this weekend

[Zimmy Lives]

Denver and NE were 19th and 26th in defense and 15th and 9th in running the ball.

In addition Denver was 1st in passing offense while NE was 10th.

The anomaly is that both those teams have elite QBs.

 

[theogt]

So, his advice is to have one of the best defenses in the league.

Brilliant, edgy stuff.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

So, his advice is to have one of the best defenses in the league.

Brilliant, edgy stuff.

In fairness to Goose, he never said it was an earth-shattering revelation.

 

[khiladi]

Again with this myth that we have a good running game. We have an opportunistic running game. When the defense is preoccupied with Dez/Witten, we can do some good things on the ground. When the defense doesn't want us to run, we can't do squat (see end of Washington and entire Philly game). Seattle and San Fran can run anytime they want. We're basically a bunch of wimps compared to them.

Yep... If you look at Green Bay, the reality was we tried running it the first drive of the second half. They simply adjusted to the sweep play to the right that was effective for Murray and we simply abandoned running. We got a bunch of clowns in charge of this offense.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Yep... If you look at Green Bay, the reality was we tried running it the first drive of the second half. They simply adjusted to the sweep play to the right that was effective for Murray and we simply abandoned running. We got a bunch of clowns in charge of this offense.

My biggest disappointment is the lack of faith placed in the RB and o-line. I give Murray and the o-linemen credit for not tanking the 2nd half of the season.

 

[Risen Star]

I don't think there's a template for success in this league. You have to do this well or that well. I think if you can be very good on one side of the ball and respectable on the other side, you have a chance.

The Cowboys are very good on offense, despite the cries from the Garrett lynch mob. They are inept on defense. I don't see how that changes next year. There's only so much upgrading one team can do in a single offseason and with no cap room to speak of.

 

[theogt]

In fairness to Goose, he never said it was an earth-shattering revelation.

But what is he advocating, really? Jerry has brought in multiple highly-regarded defensive coaches over the past decade. He's spent big money on free agent contracts for defensive players and he's invested heavily in high round draft picks. It's not as if the defense has been ignored. The decisions simply haven't panned out for a myriad of reasons. But the decisions were all defensible at the time they were made, and they were made for the single goal of making the defense better.

It's just a stupid article.

 

[theogt]

I don't think there's a template for success in this league. You have to do this well or that well. I think if you can be very good on one side of the ball and respectable on the other side, you have a chance.

The Cowboys are very good on offense, despite the cries from the Garrett lynch mob. They are inept on defense. I don't see how that changes next year. There's only so much upgrading one team can do in a single offseason and with no cap room to speak of.

Good post.

 

[visionary]

yep, both san fran and seattle ran the clock out in the 4th quarter. carolina and new orleans knew it was coming, but couldn't stop it. that is the definition of a good running game. when was the last time we were able to run out a game? we always end up giving the ball back to the other team b/c we can't convert on 3rd and short. cowboys need to wake up, get rid of free who is a big wimp in the run game, and also get a big back that can close games.

this is true but the problem is that to be that good at anything you have to actually plan for it, draft accordingly, practice it, and prepare for it

cant be a passing team and then decide to become a running team in the 4th quarter

unfortunately our GM and coaching staff does not believe in it and so does not expend the necessary resources that are required

 

[Stash]

The tragic part is that the very same "hope" is what is driving our executive's decision making for the upcoming season.

And has for quite some time.

Speaking for myself, I'm not foolish enough to go along for the ride any longer.

Not buying what they're selling.

 

[Stash]

this is true but the problem is that to be that good at anything you have to actually plan for it, draft accordingly, practice it, and prepare for it

cant be a passing team and then decide to become a running team in the 4th quarter

unfortunately our GM and coaching staff does not believe in it and so does not expend the necessary resources that are required

I think sums it up quite well.

And I think another clear indicator of the ineptitude is the on-again, off-again handling of the fullback position.

One month it's "two TE baby!" And the next it's signing a fullback late into the season. A real sense of direction and purpose there.

Garrett always has and continues to struggle with his understanding and utilization of the running game.

It's unquestionable at this point.

 

[jterrell]

Jerrah only pays for offense..not defense.

And he thinks that lesser talent on the defense can be coached up by coaches.

Rob Ryan couldn't do it, neither will Kiffin.

We don't have two #1s like Parcells had when he took over to rebuild the DL..

..so until the change comes from the top..

..no change.

Come on man.
Ware, Spencer, Carr, Lee, Ratliff, Mo

Jerry might pay the wrong guys and he may have drafted like crap for a decade but he has paid guys on both sides of the ball.
Paying people has never been an issue.

 

[Zordon]

this is true but the problem is that to be that good at anything you have to actually plan for it, draft accordingly, practice it, and prepare for it

cant be a passing team and then decide to become a running team in the 4th quarter

unfortunately our GM and coaching staff does not believe in it and so does not expend the necessary resources that are required

yes, i agree 100%. the cowboys become a running game in february, march, april, may, june, july..........not in week 8.

problem is we have an ex-QB at the helm who prefers throwing the ball, period.

 

[jterrell]

I think sums it up quite well.

And I think another clear indicator of the ineptitude is the on-again, off-again handling of the fullback position.

One month it's "two TE baby!" And the next it's signing a fullback late into the season. A real sense of direction and purpose there.

Garrett always has and continues to struggle with his understanding and utilization of the running game.

It's unquestionable at this point.

Can not argue at all that we seem as a team a step behind always.
Other teams run the ball so we will NEXT year.
After 20 teams shore up run defenses....

We've just been a day late and dollar short for 4 years.
We are in the ball park every year but never make it to the game.

If we are going to pound the rock next year we need a proven and talented RB behind Murray.

The Seahawks actually have a crap line this year but still run the ball VERY well. Lynch and Wilson are scary talented there.

 

[bayeslife]

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@Dubuloso @JJT_ESPNDallas Dallas has fewest rushing attempts in a season since 1982 even tho Murray was at 5.2 ypc (good for top 5)

How the hell did this guy get 1000 yards?

 

[Stash]

Can not argue at all that we seem as a team a step behind always.
Other teams run the ball so we will NEXT year.
After 20 teams shore up run defenses....

We've just been a day late and dollar short for 4 years.
We are in the ball park every year but never make it to the game.

If we are going to pound the rock next year we need a proven and talented RB behind Murray.

The Seahawks actually have a crap line this year but still run the ball VERY well. Lynch and Wilson are scary talented there.

Completely agree.

I'm right there with you.

And I have mentioned this team's reactive rather than proactive thinking numerous times too.

Again, I'm not suggesting a complete philosophical change, but it's obvious to anyone willing to look that this team has an underutilized resource that can help not only the offense, but the defense as well.

They just need to use it.

 

[Stash]

How the hell did this guy get 1000 yards?

He just did it to spite the head coach!

 

[visionary]

Come on man.
Ware, Spencer, Carr, Lee, Ratliff, Mo

Jerry might pay the wrong guys and he may have drafted like crap for a decade but he has paid guys on both sides of the ball.
Paying people has never been an issue.

agree but paying the wrong guys may be worse than not paying in a league with a salary cap

i am also not convinced that we are paying all the wrong guys, i have truly come around to the notion that the prevalent culture of the team, largely because of the influence of jerry jones, just creates an environment where holding players accountable and running a team with the sort of discipline that bellichick or harbaugh do it might not be possible for the HC

now, some guys are just who they are, witten, sean lee, they are self starters and have a higher degree of self respect, i do i think that on that seattle team or SF team or NE, players like carter would be true difference-makers

JMO

 

[jterrell]

Championships start with the trenches. Cowboys aren't going anywhere until they start investing major talent in the OL and DL.

Matter of fact, if we can take care of those this offseason, I wouldn't be surprised if we make it to the playoffs next year even if we don't add anyone at the skill positions. JMO.

Someone forgot to tell Seattle and SF that fact. Or Denver obviously.

While it is fun to look at their running game and defense... and talk big ole fun beef... reality is those teams are loaded basically EVERYWHERE.
Seattle's weakest positional group this year has been OL and WR.
They are the best DB group (led by an all Pro safety) in football and the DL is in top 3.
They have a top 3 RB and a young, cheap QB who frees up a fortune to spend elsewhere such as that insanely deep DL.

SF has R1 picks every friggin where. They were terrible for a long time and as they drafted all those OL they were still losing.
But they hit on a Head coach and a cheap QB and voila!!!!
It helps when they have a top 10 pick at WR, TE and loaded defense lead by R1 guys including at Safety.

Those two teams have a crap ton more talent than Dallas who is starting spares by both design and injury. And they have about 20M more cap dollars spent at QB alone...

 

[theebs]

Yea.

A. This organization has no plan. They don't know how to build a winner. They can't even copy proven ways of winning so all this talk is just nonsense.

B. gosselin writes the same article very year, and he changes how the organization should be operating every year. A few years ago we needed only to draft pass rushers and win like the giants did, then it was we needed to be able to run the ball and get takeaways like Pittsburgh. Then we needed to have a deeper roster because its the deep roster that won the sb for GB. In GB injuries do not matter...yea uh huh. Then it was back to being the giants and how they operated. Then last year this guy was suggesting we could learn from the Commanders.

He just writes this same sorry article every year. He knows as little about building a winner as the jones family does.

Bottom line here the important changes, the tough changes will never be made. The jones family will continue to pick the players, they will continue to undermine the coaches authority by talking all week before games, after games and having to be the voices of the organization.

And they will it hire a coach who operates the right way again because they won't allow that type of environment.

Here is what I know as a fan. The team thanks to a guy was here years ago has a quarterback who has been the difference between 5-11 that we were under campo. The jones family is set to never lose. The stadium will always be filled with fans, merchandise will always be bought, nationally televised games will always be played. The cowboys are just as good to them a loser as they are a winner. Jerry will take the credit if we ever win again and if we lose like recently he will just talk about the stadium.

And while all us fans try to view this stuff through common sense it's a waste of time, they are not going to change. Next year the first ever college football championship is going to be played at Jerry world, the NCAA basketball tournament this year....etc..etc...

No matter what they are buisness men who think and act like them. That is why the football product is always so poor. It's not going to change. They all have 80 different things going at once which are all related to making money for the cowboys brand. The football stuff is not that important. They are already getting what they want from that.

Anyway, god i hate talking about this and that damn family. They have basically almost ruin my love of the nfl and the cowboys. I can't stand them and wish they would just go buy casinos in Las Vegas and go away.