Gosselin strikes again, grades

[TheMarathonContinues]

Bronco's got a B for drafting a receiver who everyone had going as the 3rd or 4th best receiver in the draft and for drafting a quarterback who people had going in the 3rd round? Hell he had him going in the 3rd round as well. He praises the 3rd round but the 3rd round picks they got weren't 1st round talents. He's acting as if they were projected to go in the 1st. They were projected exactly where Denver took them.

 

[RS12]

Who cares about grades. If the draft produces two starters and two rotation guys, what more can you realistically ask for.

 

[Chief]

The draft is over, Goose. You can crawl back in your hole now. See you next April.

 

[Bach]

Goose is the best year in and year out.

*wait, he gave us a C???*

Like I was saying, Goose sucks!!!

 

[TellerMorrow34]

His grades will never make sense because he gives the late picks equal value to the early ones. The guy is great getting info from scouts and gms but he really doesn't understand anything beyond that.

This is exactly the problem with him. He gives later rounders the same credit as early round picks and it's a really stupid way to go about grading things.

The guy has his strengths but this is part is a weakness for him.

 

[bbgun]

Goose is the best year in and year out.

*wait, he gave us a C???*

Like I was saying, Goose sucks!!!

Yep. He's only useful to them when he confirms their pro-Dallas prejudices. "According to Goose's board, this was a great pick!" The second he doesn't, off with his head. Had he awarded us a B or higher, he would not have been subjected to the same level of negative scrutiny.

 

[dbair1967]

Yep. He's only useful to them when he confirms their pro-Dallas prejudices. "According to Goose's board, this was a great pick!" The second he doesn't, off with his head. Had he awarded us a B or higher, he would not have been subjected to the same level of negative scrutiny.

Thats not what this thread was about, as I said in my OP, I dont care that he gave us a C.

The problem I have with him is there is no rationale behind his grading and he seems to allow bioas to get in the way of sound judgement, judgement which should be based on what he puts on his boards.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I personally had Dallas draft graded out as a solid B. You'll have special teams contributors with all of those guys and two possible starters in Bryant and Lee.

 

[AdamJT13]

The problem with Goose's draft grades -- and it is a HUGE problem -- is that it doesn't matter to him which picks you have. The ONLY thing that matters is the average score (based on his rankings) of the players you drafted. So, if the Commanders had drafted Jimmy Clausen with the fourth overall pick and traded all of their other picks for Alan Faneca, Goose would have given them an A+. Why? Because their average pick would have been ranked 13th on his board.

For the same reason, teams that don't have picks in the early rounds (such as Chicago this year) will never score high using his system, even if they get all bargains the rest of the way, because they don't get any of his top players. Chicago's BEST pick ranked 89th on his board, so to him, they didn't do a good job of drafting. Never mind that they didn't pick until the third round.

Just look at the average pick number for each team, and you'll have a pretty good idea of the grade Goose will give them. For us, having only two of the top 125 picks made it virtually impossible to get anything higher than a C from him because of his asinine grading system.

However, anyone who claims that Goose is nothing special when it comes to his top 100 and mock draft has no clue what they're talking about. His top 100 has been the most correct EVERY SINGLE SEASON since THR started tracking them in 2002. Only one time has anyone ever even tied him, and nobody has ever beaten him. Mock drafts are a more inexact science, but he's still a two-time champion, has the highest average and is almost always in the top 10 out of about 90.

 

[bbgun]

Thats not what this thread was about, as I said in my OP, I dont care that he gave us a C.

Well somebody sure does (5 pages and counting). And the "strikes again" line sounds a tad personal/peevish to me.

The problem I have with him is there is no rationale behind his grading and he seems to allow bioas to get in the way of sound judgement, judgement which should be based on what he puts on his boards.

We both know that no one would have cared about his "deductive reasoning" had he given us a favorable grade. He didn't, so out come the long knives.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Gosselin's grade the same as mine shocking.

 

[dbair1967]

Well somebody sure does (5 pages and counting). And the "strikes again" line sounds a tad personal/peevish to me.

That was there because I knew even after Thursday night, no matter how our draft went he'd almost assuredly have a neutral or negative reaction to is. I said it not long after the pick went in. And I was right.

We both know that no one would have cared about his "deductive reasoning" had he given us a favorable grade. He didn't, so out come the long knives.

Again, it had nothing to do with why I posted it. He could have given us an A+, and I still wouldnt like his grading of drafts because of all the other inconsistencies.

 

[Bach]

Yep. He's only useful to them when he confirms their pro-Dallas prejudices. "According to Goose's board, this was a great pick!" The second he doesn't, off with his head. Had he awarded us a B or higher, he would not have been subjected to the same level of negative scrutiny.

'xactly.

 

[Paniolo22]

So let me get this straight. NE with 3 2nd round picks had the best 2nd round. Detroit with 2 first round picks had the best first round. We had a top 10 player and potential starter in Lee, and potential in AOA anc get a C. Quantity over common sense.

 

[Trendnet]

Yep. He's only useful to them when he confirms their pro-Dallas prejudices. "According to Goose's board, this was a great pick!" The second he doesn't, off with his head. Had he awarded us a B or higher, he would not have been subjected to the same level of negative scrutiny.

So... you're not pro-Dallas?

 

[Marktui]

True measure of all drafts are 3 years down the road. He grades them based on his opinions and what he believes to be our needs and how we addressed them.

In my opinion if we get two starters and some future contributers, then I think we had a great draft.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I stopped reading when I got to the Broncos grade of A.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I stopped reading when I got to the Broncos grade of A.

This has to be a joke Gosslin is trying to pull here. Seriously, how anybody can give the Broncos an A and keep a straight face is beyond me.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

This has to be a joke Gosslin is trying to pull here. Seriously, how anybody can give the Broncos an A and keep a straight face is beyond me.

I'll take Prisco's first day "F" as the more correct grade. There's an article in the Daily Zone that has the Broncos with a pretty favorable grade as well.

My opinion is that if you give up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round pick, that mutha better be inked as the starter at that position the next morning. Burning over a half of a standard NFL draft on a project player that is two seasons out from being a starter is beyond stupid. Its mind boggling.

Josh McDaniels has a future in gov't bureaucracy.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I'll take Prisco's first day "F" as the more correct grade. There's an article in the Daily Zone that has the Broncos with a pretty favorable grade as well.

My opinion is that if you give up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round pick, that mutha better be inked as the starter at that position the next morning. Burning over a half of a standard NFL draft on a project player that is two seasons out from being a starter is beyond stupid. Its mind boggling.

Josh McDaniels has a future in gov't bureaucracy.

I hear you buddy, I agree 100%.


To give up all those picks to get Tebow is just mind boggling. There was not a single player in the draft worth all of those picks, not even Suh. Just plain stupid move by McDaniels and Gosslin has a hard on for him all of a sudden.