Gotham trailer

[joseephuss]

the last one had some moments but i don't think it was as good as the previous, although i like this peter parker better.

I like Garfield's interpretation of Parker. I thought the script was weak. They did a poor job with the Electro character.

 

[joseephuss]

i was mixing and matching between the 2.

but i mean characters like:
elongated man. even a rip off character deserves a better name.
booster gold - hero for hire!
krypto - we all need a superdog with a cape.
catman - yes, i'm serious
blue beetle
blue devil (but at least he was funny)
larfleeze? this one is even new to me:
Several billion years ago a group of thieves consisting of Larfleeze (who was their leader), Chattle, Flob,Blooch, and Turpa of the planet Ogatoo performed for a mysterious buyer what was perhaps the greatest heist ever pulled in the history of the universe. The group stole a monumental amount of treasures and relics from the planet Maltus, including a box containing Parallax and a section of an ancient map that had originally belonged to Krona.

whoever comes up with some of these names, fire them.

i could go on but now i wanna go see some of marvels flops.

absorbing man - bwahahahaha
batroc the leaper
beta ray bill but i thought he was kinda cool
colonel america...i kid you not
fat cobra - bwahahahahahaha

man marvel has a TON of characters out there.

No one really cares about these secondary or less characters from either company. I was thinking of the big name guys. DC and Marvel both have a handful of top name characters that are all about equal in universal popularity.

DC ripped off their own Plastic Man(1941) character with Elongated Man(1960), so they didn't care too much if it was a good name or good character. Neither did Marvel when they came up with Mr. Fantastic(1961).

 

[Aikmaniac]

I wonder if this will go the way of Smallville. Was that a unique situation? I never watched the show because I wanted to see the blue and red. That's how I feel about this one....waiting season after season to eventually see Batman. We'll see.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I wonder if this will go the way of Smallville. Was that a unique situation? I never watched the show because I wanted to see the blue and red. That's how I feel about this one....waiting season after season to eventually see Batman. Well see.

Watched Smallville from day one till the end of it's run. Special effects made the show. Don't know what Gotham will use to make it stand out from other shows with guns and violence in big city tv dramas. The trailer was boring to me.

 

[Derekmtl85]

The problem is that DC hero's are universally less accepted than marvel. From what I've seen of justice league its gonna suck on green lantern.

Ironman and Thor were some of Marvels worst selling comics....until the movies.

 

[iceberg]

Ironman and Thor were some of Marvels worst selling comics....until the movies.

won't deny that.

but i still have autographed beta ray bill issues.

 

[DallasEast]

batman had a good run lately with "the dark knight", but the ones before that were pretty bad. mr freeze? it was like bad tv all over again. even the latest man of steel was pretty bad, to me. however, globally it did pull in around $650 mil. i just couldn't stand seeing the entire city demolished worse than even pacific rim. didn't care for the acting and the rocket launches he did when taking off.

but when you look at Thor, Avengers, Thor 2, Iron Man 1-3, X-Men, Wolverine (you could argue his solo films didn't do as well) Spiderman (any run will do but i am enjoying this last run even if electro was pretty badly done) and so forth.

of course they keep trying to do Hulk movies and they should ban any future attempt to try again. daredevil wasn't too terrible but they never should have made the electra movie. so yea, a few poo-bombs in their cellar. the last spiderman movie from the previous series however contained the worst scene ever put into a movie with peter parker dancing like a giggalo down the sidewalk.

as a comic collector i just grew up on marvel OR indie characters for the most part. firestorm was my favorite DC character and i had to giggle like a little school girl to find out you have to scream SHAZAM to get your powers. outside that, we have:

the dark knight, series won 2 oscars.
man of steel - marginal to me but i'll concede to its success.

then we have:
green lantern. i smelled poo bomb the instant they announced the movie cause the comic book always had goofy looking characters. squids in a bubble trying to look like a hero and so forth.
jonah hex
catwoman
various earlier superman movies (richard pryor stealing money?)
and in general, my overall feeling is the justice league will make some money simply cause comic book movies are pretty popular today but as of today (just read wiki) no script, no director, and it even being done now will depend on the success of batman / superman.

it's all preference, to be sure. marvel for some reason (cough stan lee cough) just had the better base of heros to work with.

I think the feel of the pre-Batman Begins movies can be contributed to the Christopher Nolan effect. The prior movies followed Tim Burton's interpretation of the character and were entirely cartoony. Nolan brought a serious tone which matched a serious character. I believe that's why most people loved his films over the ones which came before.

I also think Nolan would have had a similar effect on Man of Steel for audiences. Overall, moviegoers didn't love Zach Snyder's creation, but most people liked it. Perhaps the C grade given by paid movie critics will inspire Snyder to work harder on making the sequel more appealing for moviegoers who found his original to be a bad movie.

(Note: Before someone says my opinion of overall audience reaction to Man of Steel isn't correct, please check general nonpaid movie critic ratings on Rotten Tomatoes.com, Metacritic.com or even iMDB.com . )

I hope Marvel doesn't give up on Hulk, Daredevil or even Electra. In my opinion, the Ed Norton Hulk could've been better minus the love story subplot. There was only moderate serious effort put into crafting Daredevil. Even Ben Affleck seemed disinterested at times. Whoever conceived Electra should be gutted. There was practically zero serious effort to make a functional movie (e.g. script, special effects, etc.). At least Jennifer Garner made an honest effort to make the character believable.

The script and casting of Green Lantern sucked. All of the real actors, minus Michael Clarke Duncan, Angela Bassett, and the guy who played Sinestro, could have been replaced and still got the same movie or a slightly better one. Ryan Reynolds is perfect casting for Deadpool. For Lantern the old saying of, "Look like Tarzan and act like Jane" totally applies. He cannot do serious roles.

I pretty much agree with everything else. I think Justice League is being rushed to the big screen. Marvel Studies has a proven formula: a) highlight each main character in their own films or embed them in other main character films, b) get a director who can mesh the different personalities together into one movie, c) BE SERIOUS/no cartoony interpretation and d) have a great script. It worked for The Avengers. DC does even want to re-establish Wonder Woman first for today's audiences. I just have a bad feeling for the movie's chances.

 

[Teren_Kanan]

The script and casting of Green Lantern sucked. All of the real actors, minus Michael Clarke Duncan, Angela Bassett, and the guy who played Sinestro, could have been replaced and still got the same movie or a slightly better one. Ryan Reynolds is perfect casting for Deadpool. For Lantern the old saying of, "Look like Tarzan and act like Jane" totally applies. He cannot do serious roles.
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Yes.. Yes he was. Until they destroyed the character.. I so wanted a Deadpool movie. Odd as it is Deadpool was one of my favorite comics growing up, used to buy them up as soon as they were released, and any crossovers I could get. Thought Ryan was a fantastic choice, but then Origins happened.. and just.. wow. Now if he were to do a Deadpool film I'd want nothing to do with it if it was even remotely related to the Origins continuity.

Same reason I couldn't enjoy "The Wolverine". It constantly reminded me that Xmen Last Stand, did in fact happen.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

What would be interesting about Banner before he ever became The Hulk? Gotham is going to focus mostly on Jim Gordon and his development as a character. I'm not sure if that will be enough to draw a huge audience, but his character is probably more interesting than a pre-Hulk Banner. Banner and Hulk are synonymous. I just don't think you can have one without the other. At least not for a whole movie or many episodes of a TV show. A Peter Parker movie would not be interesting without Spider-Man(this last one wasn't interesting with Spider-Man). Tony Stark without Iron Man would struggle. The same hold for pretty much any character and alter ego.

It would lead to his hulk transformation. If you read the link you will see there is plenty there to make it interesting. It actually has everything, sub stories and everything,

If you wouldn't be into no big deal. These movies are hit or miss anyway.

 

[Aikmaniac]

I disagree about Ryan Reynolds and serious roles. The Amityville remake and Safe House come to mind.

 

[DallasEast]

Yes.. Yes he was. Until they destroyed the character.. I so wanted a Deadpool movie. Odd as it is Deadpool was one of my favorite comics growing up, used to buy them up as soon as they were released, and any crossovers I could get. Thought Ryan was a fantastic choice, but then Origins happened.. and just.. wow. Now if he were to do a Deadpool film I'd want nothing to do with it if it was even remotely related to the Origins continuity.

Same reason I couldn't enjoy "The Wolverine". It constantly reminded me that Xmen Last Stand, did in fact happen.

Glad you brought up Deadpool and X-Men Origins:Wolverine. I stopped buying comics titles full-time in the early 90's. After watching the movie, I was left thinking Marvel had re-done Deadpool's character as I remember it from back then. That wasn't it, right? The movie corrupted his character didn't it? I didn't have the greatest opinion of the movie already, but now it has dropped a few more pegs in my book.

 

[DallasEast]

I disagree about Ryan Reynolds and serious roles. The Amityville remake and Safe House come to mind.

I've only seen the original Amityville Horror, so I cannot comment on Reynolds for it. I did see Safe House though. Maybe I just don't see him as that strong of a dramatic actor. I can't get Van Wilder out of my head whenever I see him on screen.

 

[DallasEast]

Watched Smallville from day one till the end of it's run. Special effects made the show. Don't know what Gotham will use to make it stand out from other shows with guns and violence in big city tv dramas. The trailer was boring to me.

I think Allison Mack and the whole Wall of Weird/X-Files dynamic really defined Smallville in its early seasons. Don't get me wrong. Kristen Kreuk was good, but Mack gave the show a few extra edges for the pre-Superman years which Lana couldn't. The whole kryptonite-creates-evil-mutants-for-Clark-to-fight deal was pretty good too.

 

[joseephuss]

It would lead to his hulk transformation. If you read the link you will see there is plenty there to make it interesting. It actually has everything, sub stories and everything,

If you wouldn't be into no big deal. These movies are hit or miss anyway.

I know the background of the character. I glanced at your link and it just reminded me of everything I already know. There isn't enough there to make a stand alone movie or a TV series based on a pre-Hulk Banner only. He is a more interesting character when having to deal with his alter ego. Plus the TV Hulk's origins are different than the version in the comic books.

 

[Aikmaniac]

I've only seen the original Amityville Horror, so I cannot comment on Reynolds for it. I did see Safe House though. Maybe I just don't see him as that strong of a dramatic actor. I can't get Van Wilder out of my head whenever I see him on screen.

Yes, it's unfortunate for his career. I liken Reynolds' career to Robin Williams' filmography over the last decade or so. People have a real difficult time giving his non-comedic, dramatic roles a chance. Who's to blame them? I don't want to watch Robin Williams be serious or demented. Reynolds still has a chance though to make a solid choice to resurrect his career. He's got his work cut out for him for sure. RIPD, his latest effort, was atrocious.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I think Allison Mack and the whole Wall of Weird/X-Files dynamic really defined Smallville in its early seasons. Don't get me wrong. Kristen Kreuk was good, but Mack gave the show a few extra edges for the pre-Superman years which Lana couldn't. The whole kryptonite-creates-evil-mutants-for-Clark-to-fight deal was pretty good too.

I agree.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I know the background of the character. I glanced at your link and it just reminded me of everything I already know. There isn't enough there to make a stand alone movie or a TV series based on a pre-Hulk Banner only. He is a more interesting character when having to deal with his alter ego. Plus the TV Hulk's origins are different than the version in the comic books.

Again, opinion, interest and preference. They rehash characters/stories we already know as naseum... So it is doable. If done right it could work IMO.