Governor's Cup

shnagy;3524161 said:
I don't think anyone here really cares enough to go to a Texans website. You, on the other hand, are actually posting on a Cowboys message board. Wonder who actually cares about this "rivalry?" :rolleyes:

We actually have plenty of Cowboy fans who post at the Texans site.
 
The Governers Cup has gone back for years to the Oiler days. Maybe Hostile or someone can post more details. I seem to remember it actually being lost for a few years and was eventually found in some closet at Texas Stadium.
 
rynochop;3524407 said:
The Governers Cup has gone back for years to the Oiler days. Maybe Hostile or someone can post more details. I seem to remember it actually being lost for a few years and was eventually found in some closet at Texas Stadium.

That's hilarious! Our trophy case only houses real bling.
 
GuerillaBlack;3524322 said:
We actually have plenty of Cowboy fans who post at the Texans site.
http://i356.***BLOCKED***/albums/oo4/DallasEast1701/6992c170.jpg
 
Ok, well just called 10 friends yesterday and today, who I know are huge Texan fans. 8 out of 10 agree that if they beat Dallas, an 8-8 season is alright. Heck, one even went as far to say if Dallas goes 10-6 and doesn't make the playoffs, then he'll take a 5-11 season...because at least they'll have a good draft pick.

Just saying.... Texan fans have some infatuation with beating Dallas or having Dallas lose, I guess it would be a jealousy of success??
 
numnuts23;3525040 said:
Ok, well just called 10 friends yesterday and today, who I know are huge Texan fans. 8 out of 10 agree that if they beat Dallas, an 8-8 season is alright. Heck, one even went as far to say if Dallas goes 10-6 and doesn't make the playoffs, then he'll take a 5-11 season...because at least they'll have a good draft pick.

Just saying.... Texan fans have some infatuation with beating Dallas or having Dallas lose, I guess it would be a jealousy of success??

How about this, I'll make a poll at the Texans site, and link it over here (as well as link your post here over there). Your "friends" are not the majority of Texans fans and I'm surprised at your "results".

Edit: here is the link: http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74862
 
numnuts23;3525172 said:
"ok" you do "that"

I'm interested in seeing the results...

I put those words in quotes because I find it hard to believe you actually did that. If so, that's some of the stupidest fans I've ever heard of.

Oh, and the poll is in a 9-1 favor for a win over the Colts versus the Cowboys.
 
GuerillaBlack;3525289 said:
I put those words in quotes because I find it hard to believe you actually did that. If so, that's some of the stupidest fans I've ever heard of.

Oh, and the poll is in a 9-1 favor for a win over the Colts versus the Cowboys.

That's because you asked such an unbelievably leading question.
Kudos on there being 10 Texans fans on your board, though.
 
GuerillaBlack;3525289 said:
I put those words in quotes because I find it hard to believe you actually did that. If so, that's some of the stupidest fans I've ever heard of.

Oh, and the poll is in a 9-1 favor for a win over the Colts versus the Cowboys.

How about this thread on your board, linked to from your poll?

As much as I want to beat the Cowboy's, if I could only pick one I have to go with the Colt's I really want this team to advance this year.

Easily the cowboys just so i can get a couple of my cow pattie friends to ... even if it is only for 48 minutes....& secondly so i can see the array of emotions () on their faces after the texans have ..........shout out to Houston Frog LoL......

It was close for me. I want the division, but I'm also bringing a cow girls fan with me to the game. I want to watch him cry. hehe

OK, so here's the deal. Important to ME? To me it's the Cowboys. I hate the ********.

Now, more important for the Texans, it's the Colts, and it will always be the Colts.

I know the difference here, I'm just saying..........

Where's the option for "both"?

I hate the Cowboys and I want to destroy them something fierce.

That said, I want to beat the Colts more.

I concur.

My main reasoning for leaning towards the Cowboys is that everyone I know is a Cowboy fan and it's time to shut them up if only for 60 minutes.

Exactly, I know division games are more important but dang it, I don't want to hear it from my obnoxious coworkers who are cowboy fans.

I understand why everyone wants to beat the colts as far as what it would mean to the us in the division, but there are still 2 wild card berths to be had in the AFC if we don't beat them in our 1st game. If we beat the colts the 2nd time around & we sweep our other division opponents we are still in play for the division & the playoffs.

On the other hand, losing to the cowboys would mean not only another 6 year wait to be able to beat them again but also of hearing from these moronic cowboy fans about what the cow chips did to us the last time out....I'm willing to forgo 1 colts win to shut these dudes up for any length of time.

Definitely the Colts. We are 1-15 against them, and the only way we sniff playoffs is if we can overtake them.

But on the other hand, it sure would be nice to BTHO ******** and their fans.

And that's just in the first 21 posts. I could go on, but what's the point? 1 in 5 fans actually voted for beating the Cowboys over the top division rival and most of the other 4 are torn on the issue. Unbelievable.

Even many Texans fans smart enough to realize that they should want to beat the Colts more that the Cowboys still acknowledge that they really want to beat the Cowboys.

There's nothing wrong with that, but plenty of Texans fans care about beating the Cowboys. Why you feel the need to continually argue otherwise is puzzling. Like I implied earlier, your continued protestation that Texan fans don't care is damning evidence that you really do.
 
GuerillaBlack;3523384 said:
Not true actually. The mentaity HAS changed. Back in 2007, Houston would jump up and down for 8 wins. Nowadays, we better make the playoffs or Kubiak is gone. The biggest thing here though is the difference between Carr and Schaub. So, to say the mentality hasn't changed in thre years is completely false.

I find it so odd that you come here and preach what the Texans believe.. but every Texan fan I know(granted, I only know 3...) talks a massive amount of crap before games and makes such a big deal about it..

I find it even more odd that you care so much about what Cowboy fans think of your little team(I say little on purpose) that you are on cowboyszone.com attempting to convince everyone that the Texans don't care, it's just a game, blah blah blah, they're more focused on the Playoffs, blah blah blah.

If it was just a game, what was up with all of the stunts? Of all of the season-like plays? Did you not notice the 'Boys playing vanilla? Let's be real; it was obvious the Texans were planning to win, and they actually game planned... that's the sad thing. Not only that - I think it was Schuabb talking about how they "executed" their game plan..

hah - oh well. Whatever.. like I said, who cares what Cowboy fans think of your team. Why not just wait, and come back after week 3...
 
Idgit;3525311 said:
That's because you asked such an unbelievably leading question.
Kudos on there being 10 Texans fans on your board, though.

How? I said which win would you prefer, Colts or Cowboys. Currently, it's 28-2 in favor of the Colts.

kmd24;3525339 said:
How about this thread on your board, linked to from your poll:

And that's just in the first 21 posts. I could go on, but what's the point? 1 in 5 fans actually voted for beating the Cowboys over the top division rival and most of the other 4 are torn on the issue. Unbelievable.

Even many Texans fans smart enough to realize that they should want to beat the Colts more that the Cowboys still acknowledge that they really want to beat the Cowboys.

There's nothing wrong with that, but plenty of Texans fans care about beating the Cowboys. Why you feel the need to continually argue otherwise is puzzling. Like I implied earlier, your continued protestation that Texan fans don't care is damning evidence that you really do.

Well, my thread is completely different. The overwhelming majority prefer the Colts win. Besides, most say they want to beat the Cowboys solely for the annoying and in your face Cowboy fans (we have some of those in Houston and I see a lot in DFW). And as far as the "damning evidence", I was saying this earlier about Cowboy fans. Just lurking different Cowboy forums proved to me that a lot DO care. Seriously, this Governor's Cup and Texans predictions thread here, and they have a few at the other site. Didn't Jones say he only cried twice after a football game and one was the Texams' first ever game? So, Jones didn't care? All the shots the Dallas media takes at Houston when we play you guys, but somehow it's only one-sided?

pgreptom;3525344 said:
I find it so odd that you come here and preach what the Texans believe.. but every Texan fan I know(granted, I only know 3...) talks a massive amount of crap before games and makes such a big deal about it..

I find it even more odd that you care so much about what Cowboy fans think of your little team(I say little on purpose) that you are on cowboyszone.com attempting to convince everyone that the Texans don't care, it's just a game, blah blah blah, they're more focused on the Playoffs, blah blah blah.

If it was just a game, what was up with all of the stunts? Of all of the season-like plays? Did you not notice the 'Boys playing vanilla? Let's be real; it was obvious the Texans were planning to win, and they actually game planned... that's the sad thing. Not only that - I think it was Schuabb talking about how they "executed" their game plan..

hah - oh well. Whatever.. like I said, who cares what Cowboy fans think of your team. Why not just wait, and come back after week 3...

The Cowboys couldn't even execute vanilla, so a real gameplan would have been even worse. Besides, before the game, Wade and Romo said they had a gameplan. After, Wade said they didn't have a gameplan. Typical Wade. Oh, and stunts aren't vanilla, but they definitely aren't unheard of in a preseason. I know you didn't watch the other Texans preseason games, but they played no different then than they did against the Cowboys (save for some of the Saints' game). The difference between the Texans and Cowboys though is that the Saints game for the Texans is the odd game out. The Texans first team executed well against the Cardinals and Cowboys and a little against the Saints. The Cowboys? The only first team TD happened on a 15-yard drive. Were the Cowboys playing vanilla all preseason or what? Is that why Romo looked so pissed for his halftime interview last Saturday?
 
I would pimp slap any Cowboys fan who admitted publicly that he'd rather we beat the Texans than the Giants, Eagles, or Commanders. I swear Texans fans have short man syndrome down pat.
 
GuerillaBlack;3525433 said:
The Cowboys couldn't even execute vanilla, so a real gameplan would have been even worse. Besides, before the game, Wade and Romo said they had a gameplan. After, Wade said they didn't have a gameplan. Typical Wade. Oh, and stunts aren't vanilla, but they definitely aren't unheard of in a preseason. I know you didn't watch the other Texans preseason games, but they played no different then than they did against the Cowboys (save for some of the Saints' game). The difference between the Texans and Cowboys though is that the Saints game for the Texans is the odd game out. The Texans first team executed well against the Cardinals and Cowboys and a little against the Saints. The Cowboys? The only first team TD happened on a 15-yard drive. Were the Cowboys playing vanilla all preseason or what? Is that why Romo looked so pissed for his halftime interview last Saturday?

wow, we have no chance in Houston in september. I wonder if we will even make the trip.

are you actually saying with a straight face that a real gameplan on a normal week of preperation after a home game would be worse than the repeated formations and plays that were run out there last saturday?

I mean honestly? the team was in the midst of traveling all over, mixing and matching players and running a basic group of plays and your telling me a normal week after a home game with the actual starting 5 up front and the use of bennett and witten together in a normal prep situation would be worse?

yikes. The game will be tough. your team can score points. And bob kollar makes me nervous because he did an excellent job with the bills line in 07 against us.

But this thought that all of a sudden we are the 6-10 jv team is kind of silly.
 
GuerillaBlack;3525433 said:
Well, my thread is completely different.

Yes, your thread starts with something along the lines of "This guy at Cowboyszone said"

That's what you call "leading the witness."

The overwhelming majority prefer the Colts win. Besides, most say they want to beat the Cowboys solely for the annoying and in your face Cowboy fans (we have some of those in Houston and I see a lot in DFW).

But that's not what you started out saying. You said "Texans fans could care less" about beating the Cowboys. Ask them about who they would prefer to beat out of the Cowboys and say, the Jets or the Bengals, and I'd bet it would be closer to 50/50 even though beating those two AFC playoff contenders would be twice as valuable to the Texans' playoff hopes as beating the Cowboys.

And as far as the "damning evidence", I was saying this earlier about Cowboy fans. Just lurking different Cowboy forums proved to me that a lot DO care. Seriously, this Governor's Cup and Texans predictions thread here, and they have a few at the other site. Didn't Jones say he only cried twice after a football game and one was the Texams' first ever game? So, Jones didn't care? All the shots the Dallas media takes at Houston when we play you guys, but somehow it's only one-sided?

It's not necessarily one-sided, just lopsided. And most of the Houston hate is in response to Dallas hate, i.e. might not exist if there was no reason to retaliate.

I think most of the reason Cowboys fans were upset about 19-10 was that it was against an expansion team in their first ever game. Not because it was Houston. But that's just my opinion, not fact.

The Cowboys couldn't even execute vanilla, so a real gameplan would have been even worse.

I've seen this said, but there's faulty logic behind that.

Besides, before the game, Wade and Romo said they had a gameplan. After, Wade said they didn't have a gameplan. Typical Wade. Oh, and stunts aren't vanilla, but they definitely aren't unheard of in a preseason. I know you didn't watch the other Texans preseason games, but they played no different then than they did against the Cowboys (save for some of the Saints' game). The difference between the Texans and Cowboys though is that the Saints game for the Texans is the odd game out. The Texans first team executed well against the Cardinals and Cowboys and a little against the Saints. The Cowboys? The only first team TD happened on a 15-yard drive. Were the Cowboys playing vanilla all preseason or what? Is that why Romo looked so pissed for his halftime interview last Saturday?

This is all beside the point. Dallas has said all preseason that they are "just running plays" rather than making adjustments. In particular, they said going into the Texans game that they weren't going to reveal how they would adjust (to, say, 7 man blitzes!) because of the game in week 3.

Whether that is a smart plan or not is debatable. Whether the Cowboys are executing well in preseason is less debatable (hint: they aren't). But neither of those are what we are debating.

The debate is whether the Texans and Texans fans cared more about the result of a preseason game more that the Cowboys did. On the surface, it looks like the answer is "Yes."
 
GuerillaBlack;3525433 said:
How? I said which win would you prefer, Colts or Cowboys. Currently, it's 28-2 in favor of the Colts.

Gee. I don't know. Let's look at what you actually asked:

Okay, I was discussing with some Cowboy fans at "Cowboys Zone" forum, and they all seem to believe that Texans fans will be okay with an 8-8 season, as long as we beat the Cowboys. In fact, poster numnuts23 claims to have called ten friends and he says this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by numnuts23
Ok, well just called 10 friends yesterday and today, who I know are huge Texan fans. 8 out of 10 agree that if they beat Dallas, an 8-8 season is alright. Heck, one even went as far to say if Dallas goes 10-6 and doesn't make the playoffs, then he'll take a 5-11 season...because at least they'll have a good draft pick.

Just saying.... Texan fans have some infatuation with beating Dallas or having Dallas lose, I guess it would be a jealousy of success??
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showth...=190822&page=4

My question is, would you guys rather beat the Colts in Week One or beat the Cowboys in Week 3 (if we had a choice of who our team will beat).
 
I'm glad I opened this thread, so I could see a Texans fan under the delusion that anyone outside of Texans fans cares one bit about his team. If it weren't for the fantasy football implications of Andre Johnson, the Texans might as well play in NFL Europe.
 

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