Grades for every first-round pick

big dog cowboy · Oct 6, 2023

America's Cowboy said:
Mazi Smith at a C- is not good so far. Still lots of the season to go. Hope he keeps improving. Sucks having to draft so late in the 1st round. Most of the best talent gets taken in the top 22 picks of the 1st round.

The Cowboys didn't have 26 players with first round grades. So we have to keep in mind they were drafting 2nd round talent in the first round. Yes he was a first rounder, but.........

Mac_MaloneV1 · Oct 6, 2023

Lots of crying about grades without reading the explanation. Quibble with the grades all you want, but there's nothing wrong with the explanation:

Mazi Smith has been a part-time player for the Dallas Cowboys and hasn’t stood out a lot on tape. He’s made the occasional run stuff here or there, but he’s only playing around 15 snaps a game.

It usually takes defensive linemen a year or so before they make an impact, but the Cowboys were undoubtedly hoping for more right away.

buybuydandavis · Oct 6, 2023

CowboyRoy said:
How do they mean nothing? Some guys are playing well and some aren't. These aren't final grades, just a reflection of what they are doing up to this point.

What can we reason, but from what we know?
-- Alexander Pope

CowboyRoy · Oct 6, 2023

jazzcat22 said:
They are opinions. They really mean nothing.

Sure they do. One QB is playing great, one is playing bad. One gets an A so far, one gets a D. Not very complicated.

buybuydandavis · Oct 6, 2023

big dog cowboy said:
Far (way far) to early but something to talk about.

Still happy with the Smith pick. He's coming along. Has traits and is improving. Has even shown some pass rush. Not *currently* the production I'd want out of a 1st Round Pick, but it's only a quarter of the way through his rookie season.

stilltheguru · Oct 6, 2023

Some of yall favorites on here not doing too well cz experts :omg:

xwalker · Oct 6, 2023

America's Cowboy said:
Mazi Smith at a C- is not good so far. Still lots of the season to go. Hope he keeps improving. Sucks having to draft so late in the 1st round. Most of the best talent gets taken in the top 22 picks of the 1st round.

The question about Carter (Eagles) was staying out of trouble long term.

Everybody knew he would be good on the field.

Kelvin Joseph 1st NFL start (rookie year) he gave up minus 2 yards passing when targeted...That's an A+++.

CowboysLakerBamaFan · Oct 6, 2023

Skronski and Gibbs biggest shockers. Skronski was supposed to be the most sure thing in the draft (assuming they put him at guard). Gibbs ranking seems a bit low....but again I thought he was the low hanging fruit of the draft.

Three Wilson...man....Chris Simms was saying he'd be the best player of the draft.. and every team was drooling over him.

jazzcat22 · Oct 6, 2023

CowboyRoy said:
Sure they do. One QB is playing great, one is playing bad. One gets an A so far, one gets a D. Not very complicated.

Right not very complicated they mean nothing at this point.

RS12 · Oct 6, 2023

Sounds about right for Mazi. Was hoping for better and hoping that happens. At least he hasnt been a healthy scratch ala Taco and Hill.

Silver Surfer · Oct 6, 2023

Gibbs only has averaged less than 10 carries a game and 3.5 catches. They've been feeding the ball to Montgomery so far... Gibbs is averaging 4.6/YPC though.

America's Cowboy · Oct 6, 2023

xwalker said:
The question about Carter (Eagles) was staying out of trouble long term.

Everybody knew he would be good on the field.

Kelvin Joseph 1st NFL start (rookie year) he gave up minus 2 yards passing when targeted...That's an A+++.

Ok, why bring up Kelvin Joseph? Joseph sucked the rest of the games he played in. He even cost us games due to getting burned for big plays and giving up 3rd & long TDs. It's why the Cowboys finally had enough and got rid of Kelvin Joseph via trade. So, once again, why bring up Kelvin Joseph?

gimmesix · Oct 6, 2023

KJJ said:
They have an opinion just like everyone else. It’s not like anyone really knows, they all have an opinion. So far their draft grade has been pretty accurate on Mazi. His level of play so far has been about a C-. Their draft grade on Jalen Carter has been accurate. Everyone believes he’s having an All-Pro season. He’s looked every bit an A+.

The only thing that brings me solace about Carter is essentially he just just a switch out for Hargrave, who is playing better. Of course, the fact that Hargrave is playing better for the team we face Sunday brings me back down.

IceStar-D7 · Oct 6, 2023

America's Cowboy said:
Mazi Smith at a C- is not good so far. Still lots of the season to go. Hope he keeps improving. Sucks having to draft so late in the 1st round. Most of the best talent gets taken in the top 22 picks of the 1st round.

I think that was pretty liberal. I got him graded as an "F-"

Rockport · Oct 6, 2023

KJJ said:
They have an opinion just like everyone else. It’s not like anyone really knows, they all have an opinion. So far their draft grade has been pretty accurate on Mazi. His level of play so far has been about a C-. Their draft grade on Jalen Carter has been accurate. Everyone believes he’s having an All-Pro season. He’s looked every bit an A+.

Never heard of them and don’t accept anything they say just because it’s on the internet.

KJJ · Oct 6, 2023

Rockport said:
Never heard of them and don’t accept anything they say just because it’s on the internet.

I’ve never heard of them either and I don’t except anything from anyone regardless who they are. Like I said everyone has an opinion. No one‘s going to agree on any grades. You won’t find any source that has the exact same grade on these players. Based on what I’ve seen from Mazi the first four games the grade he was given I agree with.

Scotman · Oct 6, 2023

Meh, fair enough. 4 games into a DL career is too quick to be able to say much more. The explanation was probably close to the truth. C or C- is probably accurate. I'd give him a C-, but not based on his future. Things seem to be trending up. These are rarely sexy picks the beginning of their rookie years.

DuncanIso · Oct 7, 2023

America's Cowboy said:
Mazi Smith at a C- is not good so far. Still lots of the season to go. Hope he keeps improving. Sucks having to draft so late in the 1st round. Most of the best talent gets taken in the top 22 picks of the 1st round.

We need Mazi to succeed.

But it doesn’t look good so far.

He’s too slow.

DuncanIso · Oct 7, 2023

Scotman said:
Meh, fair enough. 4 games into a DL career is too quick to be able to say much more. The explanation was probably close to the truth. C or C- is probably accurate. I'd give him a C-, but not based on his future. Things seem to be trending up. These are rarely sexy picks the beginning of their rookie years.

Hope you are right.

mcmvp · Oct 7, 2023

gimmesix said:
The only thing that brings me solace about Carter is essentially he just just a switch out for Hargrave, who is playing better. Of course, the fact that Hargrave is playing better for the team we face Sunday brings me back down.

Not really. Carter is already demanding as much attention in pass protection as Hargrave, and Carter is way better vs the run…which has never been Hargrave’s strength

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