Grandpa, What Was it Like?

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Well, I’ll leave it at this….if it was “cheating” and Jerry was so involved, maybe he ought to consider doing it again, because he can’t even sniff a Super Bowl…not one he brings his team to anyway. He has no issue doing the same to his wife. What a guy.
What does this have to do with football. You have issues obviously.
 

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My grandson officially became a Cowboys fan in 2011, Jason Garrett's first season as HC. My grandson was 10 at the time. I don't know how it happened, really. For as long as he could remember at that age, he had witnessed my eventual misery every season. LOL, perhaps it was his way of helping out his poor, sad, grandpa.

His favorite Cowboy of all time is Demarco Murray.

He endured three consecutive seasons of 8-8 so you can understand that, when the Cowboys went 12-4 in 2014, he was ecstatic. The wildcard victory in the playoff against the Lions that postseason was like a SB to him.

Sadly, it still is.

My grandson is 24 now. The day after the Cowboys lost to the Bengals in that horrific fashion, he asked me this question, as if I don't volunteer the information every time we sit down to watch a game together.

Grandpa, what was it like?

What was it like when the Cowboys were fighting for a SB every year? What was it like to expect your team to, not only reach the playoffs, but be one of the last, if not the last, team standing?

What was it like to win a SB?

I knew he wasn't looking for stats or dates, or particular player stories. He already knew them by heart, whether he actually wanted to or not. He was so frustrated with the present circumstances that he just wanted to imagine my experiences at his age.

However, here's the thing....

I never properly respected the accomplishments of those teams during that period of time...,during that era. I took it for granted most of the time.

I mean, I enjoyed them to be sure. I enjoyed watching them, I enjoyed reading about them, I enjoyed bragging about them. I wanted to be one of them.

I had never been on that "other side" of the coin. Ironically, I became a Cowboys fan because I felt sorry for them after they went 5-4 in 1970 and lost to both the Vikings and Cardinals by over a 30 point margin. My luck, they went undefeated after that but lost SB 5. Of course we all know the rest.

I had been a fan for 16 years before I experienced a Cowboys losing season or even a tie season.

During the mid-80's, I felt that it was expected that the Cowboys should have a period of not being a significant team. After all, I certainly got my share of championships and championship games as well as the share of many other fan's teams. It would only be fair for me to endure a period of losing. Big of me, right?

And so I was forced to endure.......5 losing seasons before the Cowboys won 3 of the next 4 Super bowls. Poor me!

Obviously, looking back, I can see that I felt somewhat entitled. Can you really blame me?

During my first 36 seasons as a Dallas Cowboys fan, I experienced 32 postseasons, 45 playoff games, 22 division titles, 14 conference championship games, 8 Super Bowls and 5 NFL championships.

Rather than try to explain what it felt like, I gave him some advice. Enjoy the Now. Appreciate the team, even when they lose. Understand that the more they lose, the more exciting it will be if they build something special.

I can tell you that if the Lions win the Super Bowl, the Motor City party will be on. The parade will be like a Roman triumph. The procession will include Mahomes, Allen or Jackson wheeling by in a wooden cage. Some guy will be sitting on the main float behind Campbell, whispering in his ear, "You are only a man." The city will turn into a giant coliseum.

And if the Cowboys ever become a powerhouse once again? Savor it. Appreciate it. Thoroughly enjoy the moment because that is all it ever is.
I recall the Cowboys in the early 60’s before we even had a winning season. It was only when Merideth took over as starting QB that our hopes begun to upswing. Then in 1965 with Bullet arriving we had our first non losing season. The next two seasons would be our 1st two legit opportunities to win a championship against the Packers which as it turned out was the beginning of our historic run for the next 20 years and beyond.

In those early years we didn’t have any expectations, only hopes we might be a competitive contender. Most of all we were just excited to have a local and or regional team. Up until 1960 there wasn’t even a NFL team in the South.

The Oilers and Dallas Texans had a team in old AFL. Dallas shared the Cotton Bowl with Cowboys and actually won first championship for Dallas in1962, only to boot to NFL in 1963 becoming the Kansas City Chiefs.

The point is , there are no guarantees anyone’s favorite team and especially local or regional team will become or remain a serious contender.

Somewhere along the line fans became all too wrapped up in only being attracted to championship caliber teams . Winning obvious makes it more fun but it shouldn’t be the end all.

Following your Alma mater or any local team can be very humbling. My Alma mater has been more of a dormant team most of my life . Doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy following and supporting but you basically lower your expectations embracing the camaraderie and spirit of competition. Much like you would rooting on a team your child or loved one plays in.
 

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No, I’m not joking, it was Jerry that wanted Troy Aikman, Jimmy took the other quarterback in the supplement draft I don’t remember who he was because he was insignificant. Then and now. No people don’t like Jerry, but he deserves just as much credit then , do you not remember that?
Wrong.

Jimmy was recruiting Troy out of high school when he was coaching Oklahoma State. Troy chose Oklahoma. Troy broke his leg at OU and transferred to UCLA. Jimmy was at Miami and tried to get Troy to transfer there. Jimmy wanted Aikman as the 1st overall pick. Jerry had nothing to do with personnel and Jimmy had total control.
 

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Hilarious, fighting for the SB every year? Heck!! Every team is fighting for the SB every year!
SMH
 

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The ingredients that go into a championship football season typically includes a great coach and the ability to acquire and coach great players.

However, there are far more elements that contribute to a championship season. The have been many great coaches that just couldn't put a team together. NFL seasons don't reveal one great coach and 31 terrible coaches.

The team must bond. They must care about each other in a way that each player wants to win for his teammates. They have to form relationships both on the field and off. They can't just be great players. There has to be great teammates that places the team's needs above their own.

What if Daryl Johnston was upset because he wasn't getting enough carries? Suppose Jim Jeffcoat was "insulted" because he was asked to be a rotational player?

A championship season typically requires a team to be playing their best football in December. Momentum is a profound advantage. A 13-3 season doesn't mean much of two of the three losses were in the last four games.

Finally, and this is an important element, a team just needs some degree of good luck instead of bad.

Suppose Emmitt's shoulder injury in the last game of the 1993 season was worse. What if it was so bad he was out for the postseason? Imagine the 1992 team losing their best four DE's after the 4th game of the season.

Just a few words on some of the comments:

Jimmy Johnson's record in Miami has absolutely no bearing on his accomplishments as a Cowboy and is in no way, proof that he wasn't a great HC. As I stated, a team needs more than great coaches and great players.

Timing is also an element. Jimmy had to wait a year until Shula retired to take over. In addition, he could not replace the immensely popular Dan Marino, even knowing that he would not be there for the rebuild. Jimmy had some very bad injury luck when it came to some of his 1st round picks.

I think it is important to remember that NO HC in NFL history has won a SB with two different franchises. Does this make Belichick, Shannahan, Parcells, Reid, and Vermiel failures? Of course not, the ingrediants just didn't blend.

For every SB champion, there were 3-4 other teams that had an opportunity that same season but they lost an important game by a single play, or they had an injury to the wrong player at the wrong time.

Jimmy was going to draft Troy, there was no doubt. He mentioned other names to generate possible trade interest but it would have taken a treasure of players and picks for him to trade that pick.

However, here is another element to Jimmy's success. In the beginning, no player, not even the #1 pick, was going to get a free ride. Nobody was going to be anointed. Everybody was going to earn their starting position by competing.

In addition, Jimmy wasn't going to throw all his eggs in one basket. Do all QB's, drafted #1 overall, end up in the Hall of Fame with three SB rings? Jimmy simply wanted real options. In the end, Troy was everything he seemed to be and Walsh was traded for a group of draft picks.
 

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Say what you want about Jerry, but once the salary cap hit, he became worse than worthless as a GM. Ownership and GM are apples and oranges and he’s a rotten apple as a GM.
 

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He will be really excited one day. The people in Buffalo are going to feel it this year for the first time.

It’s funny you mention Buffalo . I remember the Bills going to 4 straight SB and LOSING all 4 , 2 of them to the Mighty Cowboys the “ Triplets “ era .

It would not be the worst thing in the world if the Bills blew the doors off of the Eagles in the next SB to claim championship # 1 .
 

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My grandson officially became a Cowboys fan in 2011, Jason Garrett's first season as HC. My grandson was 10 at the time. I don't know how it happened, really. For as long as he could remember at that age, he had witnessed my eventual misery every season. LOL, perhaps it was his way of helping out his poor, sad, grandpa.

His favorite Cowboy of all time is Demarco Murray.

He endured three consecutive seasons of 8-8 so you can understand that, when the Cowboys went 12-4 in 2014, he was ecstatic. The wildcard victory in the playoff against the Lions that postseason was like a SB to him.

Sadly, it still is.

My grandson is 24 now. The day after the Cowboys lost to the Bengals in that horrific fashion, he asked me this question, as if I don't volunteer the information every time we sit down to watch a game together.

Grandpa, what was it like?

What was it like when the Cowboys were fighting for a SB every year? What was it like to expect your team to, not only reach the playoffs, but be one of the last, if not the last, team standing?

What was it like to win a SB?

I knew he wasn't looking for stats or dates, or particular player stories. He already knew them by heart, whether he actually wanted to or not. He was so frustrated with the present circumstances that he just wanted to imagine my experiences at his age.

However, here's the thing....

I never properly respected the accomplishments of those teams during that period of time...,during that era. I took it for granted most of the time.

I mean, I enjoyed them to be sure. I enjoyed watching them, I enjoyed reading about them, I enjoyed bragging about them. I wanted to be one of them.

I had never been on that "other side" of the coin. Ironically, I became a Cowboys fan because I felt sorry for them after they went 5-4 in 1970 and lost to both the Vikings and Cardinals by over a 30 point margin. My luck, they went undefeated after that but lost SB 5. Of course we all know the rest.

I had been a fan for 16 years before I experienced a Cowboys losing season or even a tie season.

During the mid-80's, I felt that it was expected that the Cowboys should have a period of not being a significant team. After all, I certainly got my share of championships and championship games as well as the share of many other fan's teams. It would only be fair for me to endure a period of losing. Big of me, right?

And so I was forced to endure.......5 losing seasons before the Cowboys won 3 of the next 4 Super bowls. Poor me!

Obviously, looking back, I can see that I felt somewhat entitled. Can you really blame me?

During my first 36 seasons as a Dallas Cowboys fan, I experienced 32 postseasons, 45 playoff games, 22 division titles, 14 conference championship games, 8 Super Bowls and 5 NFL championships.

Rather than try to explain what it felt like, I gave him some advice. Enjoy the Now. Appreciate the team, even when they lose. Understand that the more they lose, the more exciting it will be if they build something special.

I can tell you that if the Lions win the Super Bowl, the Motor City party will be on. The parade will be like a Roman triumph. The procession will include Mahomes, Allen or Jackson wheeling by in a wooden cage. Some guy will be sitting on the main float behind Campbell, whispering in his ear, "You are only a man." The city will turn into a giant coliseum.

And if the Cowboys ever become a powerhouse once again? Savor it. Appreciate it. Thoroughly enjoy the moment because that is all it ever is.
I started following in 1971 and I just stepped in poo, every team I chose to root for in each sport (except college football) won championships or came close immediately. All my teams won 5 championships in my first 7 years watching sports and 4 more cases being runners up. Shortly after my hockey team the Islanders won 4 straight. Now I am cursed, my teams all stink and have for many years. (well two are showing signs of hope lately) At least my Wolverines finally got a championship last year (my first team chip in like 23 years). It would have been nicer if it was all spread out.
 

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My grandson officially became a Cowboys fan in 2011, Jason Garrett's first season as HC. My grandson was 10 at the time. I don't know how it happened, really. For as long as he could remember at that age, he had witnessed my eventual misery every season. LOL, perhaps it was his way of helping out his poor, sad, grandpa.

His favorite Cowboy of all time is Demarco Murray.

He endured three consecutive seasons of 8-8 so you can understand that, when the Cowboys went 12-4 in 2014, he was ecstatic. The wildcard victory in the playoff against the Lions that postseason was like a SB to him.

Sadly, it still is.

My grandson is 24 now. The day after the Cowboys lost to the Bengals in that horrific fashion, he asked me this question, as if I don't volunteer the information every time we sit down to watch a game together.

Grandpa, what was it like?

What was it like when the Cowboys were fighting for a SB every year? What was it like to expect your team to, not only reach the playoffs, but be one of the last, if not the last, team standing?

What was it like to win a SB?

I knew he wasn't looking for stats or dates, or particular player stories. He already knew them by heart, whether he actually wanted to or not. He was so frustrated with the present circumstances that he just wanted to imagine my experiences at his age.

However, here's the thing....

I never properly respected the accomplishments of those teams during that period of time...,during that era. I took it for granted most of the time.

I mean, I enjoyed them to be sure. I enjoyed watching them, I enjoyed reading about them, I enjoyed bragging about them. I wanted to be one of them.

I had never been on that "other side" of the coin. Ironically, I became a Cowboys fan because I felt sorry for them after they went 5-4 in 1970 and lost to both the Vikings and Cardinals by over a 30 point margin. My luck, they went undefeated after that but lost SB 5. Of course we all know the rest.

I had been a fan for 16 years before I experienced a Cowboys losing season or even a tie season.

During the mid-80's, I felt that it was expected that the Cowboys should have a period of not being a significant team. After all, I certainly got my share of championships and championship games as well as the share of many other fan's teams. It would only be fair for me to endure a period of losing. Big of me, right?

And so I was forced to endure.......5 losing seasons before the Cowboys won 3 of the next 4 Super bowls. Poor me!

Obviously, looking back, I can see that I felt somewhat entitled. Can you really blame me?

During my first 36 seasons as a Dallas Cowboys fan, I experienced 32 postseasons, 45 playoff games, 22 division titles, 14 conference championship games, 8 Super Bowls and 5 NFL championships.

Rather than try to explain what it felt like, I gave him some advice. Enjoy the Now. Appreciate the team, even when they lose. Understand that the more they lose, the more exciting it will be if they build something special.

I can tell you that if the Lions win the Super Bowl, the Motor City party will be on. The parade will be like a Roman triumph. The procession will include Mahomes, Allen or Jackson wheeling by in a wooden cage. Some guy will be sitting on the main float behind Campbell, whispering in his ear, "You are only a man." The city will turn into a giant coliseum.

And if the Cowboys ever become a powerhouse once again? Savor it. Appreciate it. Thoroughly enjoy the moment because that is all it ever is.
I also am that grandfather. It’s sad and frustrating at the same time.
 

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Say what you want about Jerry, but once the salary cap hit, he became worse than worthless as a GM. Ownership and GM are apples and oranges and he’s a rotten apple as a GM.
Don't forget he was one of the owners pushing hardest for the cap. It was a self-inflicted wound.
 

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My grandson officially became a Cowboys fan in 2011, Jason Garrett's first season as HC. My grandson was 10 at the time. I don't know how it happened, really. For as long as he could remember at that age, he had witnessed my eventual misery every season. LOL, perhaps it was his way of helping out his poor, sad, grandpa.

His favorite Cowboy of all time is Demarco Murray.

He endured three consecutive seasons of 8-8 so you can understand that, when the Cowboys went 12-4 in 2014, he was ecstatic. The wildcard victory in the playoff against the Lions that postseason was like a SB to him.

Sadly, it still is.

My grandson is 24 now. The day after the Cowboys lost to the Bengals in that horrific fashion, he asked me this question, as if I don't volunteer the information every time we sit down to watch a game together.

Grandpa, what was it like?

What was it like when the Cowboys were fighting for a SB every year? What was it like to expect your team to, not only reach the playoffs, but be one of the last, if not the last, team standing?

What was it like to win a SB?

I knew he wasn't looking for stats or dates, or particular player stories. He already knew them by heart, whether he actually wanted to or not. He was so frustrated with the present circumstances that he just wanted to imagine my experiences at his age.

However, here's the thing....

I never properly respected the accomplishments of those teams during that period of time...,during that era. I took it for granted most of the time.

I mean, I enjoyed them to be sure. I enjoyed watching them, I enjoyed reading about them, I enjoyed bragging about them. I wanted to be one of them.

I had never been on that "other side" of the coin. Ironically, I became a Cowboys fan because I felt sorry for them after they went 5-4 in 1970 and lost to both the Vikings and Cardinals by over a 30 point margin. My luck, they went undefeated after that but lost SB 5. Of course we all know the rest.

I had been a fan for 16 years before I experienced a Cowboys losing season or even a tie season.

During the mid-80's, I felt that it was expected that the Cowboys should have a period of not being a significant team. After all, I certainly got my share of championships and championship games as well as the share of many other fan's teams. It would only be fair for me to endure a period of losing. Big of me, right?

And so I was forced to endure.......5 losing seasons before the Cowboys won 3 of the next 4 Super bowls. Poor me!

Obviously, looking back, I can see that I felt somewhat entitled. Can you really blame me?

During my first 36 seasons as a Dallas Cowboys fan, I experienced 32 postseasons, 45 playoff games, 22 division titles, 14 conference championship games, 8 Super Bowls and 5 NFL championships.

Rather than try to explain what it felt like, I gave him some advice. Enjoy the Now. Appreciate the team, even when they lose. Understand that the more they lose, the more exciting it will be if they build something special.

I can tell you that if the Lions win the Super Bowl, the Motor City party will be on. The parade will be like a Roman triumph. The procession will include Mahomes, Allen or Jackson wheeling by in a wooden cage. Some guy will be sitting on the main float behind Campbell, whispering in his ear, "You are only a man." The city will turn into a giant coliseum.

And if the Cowboys ever become a powerhouse once again? Savor it. Appreciate it. Thoroughly enjoy the moment because that is all it ever is.
Sports especially in the NFL things come in cycles. They’re all deprived of championships. They don’t come around that often for many teams. That’s why I always have to bring up. Yes it sucks 28 years since we’ve been doing NFC championship game. It’s been a long time since win a Super Bowl but the last regime is good as they were and all those playoffs you’re talking about I thought the Super Bowl was the main objective. They literally only won two Super Bowls. Jerry’s comes along and won three Super Bowls. I mean it might suck that we have a drought right now and like you’re talking about the lions in Buffalo and somebody who might win one for the first time or you kidding me. We’re looking for number six that is why this drought it’s not that big a deal it may suck for the generation you’re talking about. your grand children people didn’t experience the good times they’re only experiencing abound bad times but I keep bringing this up 56 years the Kansas City Chiefs that’s how long it was between their championships and now they’re going through another dynasty face the Cowboys have had two dynasty phases in the lifetime and that’s why they’re America’s team but all teams go through droughts if you want to tell your grandson that how great the Chiefs are right now it took them 56 years to get back to the spot they’re in that’s why it comes in cycles

I mean, we’re all ready for another one at minimum we’d like an NFC championship game appearance, but the Dallas Cowboys as long as this droughts been a lot of teams of caught up or past him and Super Bowl appearances in Super Bowl wins there’s literally three teams so tell your grandchildren tell their children lol that there are far worst routes because this is why I noticed the facts are all there in black-and-white the Chiefs the Patriots and the Cowboys are the only three teams since 1989. They have three more championships so as long as this droughts been, somehow, the Cowboys are still found a way to be recognized in historical fashion.

I mean we’re all ready for another one at minimum would like a NFC championship game of parents but the Dallas Cowboys as long as this droughts been not a lot of teams of caught up or pass them in Super Bowl appearances and Super Bowl wins there’s literally three teams so tell your grandchildren tell their children LOL that there are far worse stress because this is why I notice the facts are all there in black-and-white the Chiefs the patriots and the Cowboys are the only three team since 1989 I have three more championships so as long as this droughts been somehow the cowboys are still found a way to be recognize and historical fashion

I get why people are getting impatient and they want more and they’re talking trash but really historically if you look around the 28 years wow it hurts. It’s not the worst. It’s been in the NFL or around other sports and this is the last thing I can tell you can I tell you guys tell your grandchildren go look at the Dallas Mavericks, the Dallas Stars and the Texas Rangers yeah those are the other three sports teams that are in the same market. They only have three championships. All three of them together three championships so it all is that Dave existed together. Jerry Jones has more championships by himself in the same time span as all three of those professional sports teams. That is why this is. not as big a deal as people make it out to be I know it hurts. I know we’re impatient, but literally championships do not grow on trees. These come in cycles. They will come back to us one day. I hope they get to experience when I got to experience in the 90s because by the way, my first game was the 1981 NFC championship game where the San Francisco 49ers beat the cowboys with another heartbreaking endgame loss. Yes the 49ers isn’t it ironic that the ones that are killing us right now. I mean the cats, Montana to Dwight Clark, and somehow me being from New York moving to Texas. That was my first ever Cowboys game watching that and somehow I was still enamored. With the silver helmets in the bright star in the seafoam green pants in there was just something about it. My parents hated me and my cousins hate me because I came from New York. I was born in New Jersey and I’m a diehard Cowboys fan. With the silver helmets in the bright star in the seafoam green pants in there was just something about it. My parents hated me and my cousins hate me because I came from New York. I was born in New Jersey and I’m a diehard Cowboys fan.

So yes, my first experience with the Cowboys was a lotta heartbreaking losses in the 80s. They weren’t very good they had to sell. The team did Jerry Jones but my patience paid off and I got to experience when I was 28 years old the resurgence of the second coming of another dynasty for the Dallas Cowboys and it’s probably gonna come back around again.
 
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